The Deal: Hillary and Obama's "Granita Pact"?

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The Democrats must be kicking themselves. They're facing a Republican opponent in November who seems beatable, yet they can't settle on their own contender. Their convention isn't until August 25, so four more months of uncertainty could be on the way. Is there any way to cut the process short?

Internal strategy has rarely been the Democrats' strong suit. The Republicans, on the other hand, have benefited from a couple of prodigious political minds. In 2000, Karl Rove ran an exemplary campaign, obscuring his boss's weaknesses behind a good-guy façade that appealed to the American voter. In 2004, Ken Mehlman made sure that the Republicans could play dirty without leaving too many fingerprints, while the Democrats tried vainly to counterpunch.

I get the feeling that, if either of those guys had been running strategy in the Democratic party, they and their powerful backers would have tapped Hillary Clinton on the shoulder a couple of months ago and forced her to drop out of the race. That hasn't happened, though, in part because the most gifted Democratic strategist -- and arguably the party's most powerful politician -- is Hillary's husband, Bill.

So, the Democrats have been slugging it out in a 19-month battle for the nomination, while a rested Republican awaits a three-month general election campaign. The shots they've been taking at each other haven't actually done too much damage. What truly has damaged the candidates has been their own fatigue, coupled with impatience. Barack Obama's comments in Pennsylvania gave ample testament to the problem.

Is there a solution? I think there is. To see it, you have to cast your mind back to another kind of internal party race, about a dozen years ago, that also involved two influential and evenly-matched politicians. The party was Britain's Labour Party, and the politicians were Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

The circumstances of that contest are now the stuff of legend, or possibly of myth. In 1994, the Labour Party, having lost election after election -- even against the uninspiring figure of John Major -- was looking for a new leader. It was also trying to avoid the sort of prolonged strife that is now driving Democrats crazy.

As the story goes, the two top candidates to lead the party into the 1997 elections met at a London restaurant called Granita. There, they supposedly agreed that Blair would lead the party, and, if victorious, would give Brown a prominent post in the new government. In addition, Blair would hand the reins to Brown after serving a respectable period of time as prime minister. (That's the way things work in the United Kingdom; if one prime minister resigns, his party chooses another one without having to call an election.)

Could Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama make a deal as well? She has already offered him the vice presidential spot on a joint ticket, though that offer came at a time when her own momentum suggested she should be the number two. A more logical argument might be that the Democrats need to make the most of their human resources. Clinton is 60, and Obama is 46. If both are to serve -- and a significant chunk of the party would be happy with either of them -- then she is the logical choice to go first.

But for how long? Blair won three elections with the Labour Party, and probably stayed in office far longer than Brown expected. Indeed, Brown's faction had been grumbling restlessly for years by the time Blair stepped down last June. Obama probably wouldn't want play second fiddle for eight years, either. The only way to resolve this impasse might be for Clinton to agree that if she won, she would serve just one term. She could always come back later, of course. She would be 68 in 2016; John McCain is 71.

The big question, of course, is how such a deal could be enforced. How could Obama be sure that Clinton, if she won in 2008, wouldn't run again in 2012? As any economist can tell you, she would have to use a commitment mechanism -- something that would attach a cost to non-compliance. For some politicians, making a public declaration is enough. John Edwards declared that he would serve just one term as senator for North Carolina, and that's exactly what he did. Had he reneged, his opponent in the second election would have been able to call him untrustworthy.

My guess, though, is that the Obama camp would want a stronger guarantee, in addition to a slate of high slots in Clinton's administration. Perhaps, alongside a public declaration, the two candidates could sign a legally-binding document together. The signing ceremony itself would be a display of unity for the party.

If a joint ticket were to lose, of course, all bets would be off. But the Democrats haven't backed a loser for a second bid since Adlai Stevenson in 1956. In 2012, Obama would have the upper hand.

Could an American version of the "Granita Pact" happen? With so much bad blood already being generated between the candidates, it looks like a longshot. But would they rather weaken their own party with a messy, or even a hung convention?

Daniel Altman is the author of Neoconomy: George W. Bush's Revolutionary Gamble With America's Future and Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy. He also served as an economic advisor to the British government in 2003 and 2004.

 
 

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I've thought about this for several weeks, because a Unity ticket would be unbeatable against McCain. If Clinton were at the top of the ticket, and Obama followed her to the presidency, Democrats could control the agenda for almost a generation. Think about the real progress that could be made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 05/03/2008

Dream on Daniel. It won't happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 05/03/2008

Please let it be so - Obama cannot win against McCain, but if Senator Clinton and Senator Obama rose above the contntion and run together as suggested here - we will surely unite and win!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 05/03/2008

So what would be so terrible if Obama got eight years experience he doesn't have now being vice president instead of four. He'd run in eight years. Big whoo. So what? He'd be all of 54. Talk about long in the tooth.

Instead of losing this election and making McCain president. Which would happen should Hillary refuse to be Obama's VP.
Then Obama would not be a contender for anything more than what he's got now ever again
.And even that won't be guaranteed as eight years, most likely.

None of the Obamabots on the huffPo ever answers me when I ask what does Obama have to once offer a nation that voted in Bush TWICE, with experience being the bottom line issue. He'll be running against an Experience Poster Hero.
Why would "Typical White Grandparents" who have been offended by Obama and are the largest demographic in a country were 40 % of eligible voters don't vote, be inclined to chose Obama?
What tangible reason?

gala

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 05/03/2008

What we are seeing here is an argument for the parliamentary system. If we had such a system, instead of whatever our system is called, Bush would have been out of office since at least 2006, and the face of the Iraq war would be very different by now.

Others can argue over which system is better. Both are democracies, so that is not the issue. One system allows for the rapid removal of a leader who is unpopular, the other does not. If we chose to change to a parliamentary democracy, it would require a dramatic change in the Constitution, and that is not likely to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 05/03/2008

"...instead of what our system is called..." ??!!??

Good grief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/03/2008

As a New Yorker who supported Hillary Clinton in the New York Primary and now is leaning toward Obama I would welcome any sort of "Granita Pact" between the two.
Both Obama and Hillary would get our Nationmoving in the right direction again. The two of them working together will bering about the necessary changes much faster. I hope that which ever wins they will call upon the other to serve in the new Administration. If Obama gets the nod,he should consider Hillary to lead the effort to bring about UniversalHealth Care. Should Hillary get the nod then perhaps she should appoint Obama to head the Committee to set the time table for complete withdrawal from Iraq and to chair a committee to investigate and bring criminal charges against Bush, Cheney and the Exxon/Mobil Oil Executives for colluding in price fixing and price gouging Consumers .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 05/02/2008

Wowee!!! I have been advocating something like this for months. I speak from the position of a retired school teacher in an inner city high school in South Los Angeles. During my tenure, I served as senior class sponsor 4 times. However, I always preferred serving as co-sponsor, pairing up with one or two other colleagues and splitting responsibilities. Why can't the Democratic party accept the wisdom of a retired school teacher? Although I bitterly resent the pandering and fear-and-smeear that have characterixzed Hillary's campaign (That will back fire if she wins the nomination.), I am willing to accept a compromise. The truth is - we need to develop a TeamAmerica approach. which should include John Edwards. The person who does the most to build the team, the person who does the most to refrain from name-calling and pandering gets the nomination. This what all Superdelegates need to establish. NOW.
Also should Hillary head the ticket and win in November, she will have to accept the fact that she was always be upstaged by Obama for her entire tenure. Facts of life. I however accept this deal. I urge everyone reading this to contact any one and everyone to get this show on the road.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 05/02/2008

Why I don't trust Obama? When his "uncle",GOOD DAMM AMERICA, he wasn't offended,even it was about this country he claim he loves. BUT,when J.Wright,attacked him personally,he was "offended" and disappointed. What about the 20 years,he was listening him. I don't like if somebody is so overconfident,self appreciative that he thinks the"others" are just stupid.If somebody believe him that his dissapointment is sincere, I don't want to sound harsh but I think they don't want to accept the reality,My strong opinion and also many others is,he "distanced" himself from his mentor,when he had no way out,even then he didn't say nothing new,He wasn't outraged, angry,just give the sensation to all of us,that he is there but he doesn't want to be,it just a thing he has to do.I won't believe him,not in a million year.The expression of his face didn't mach with his words,plus he had plenty of time,to do what he did, but he din't do it,because,( he was sincere),he can't disown him,Obama owns his pastor,mentor,where he is today.This is more then certain,this is the truth.He still has some decency and he can't bait the helping hand,when he needed the most.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 05/02/2008

This so-called "American Granita Pact" is a fantasy. First of all, British politics is very different from ours. They elect a party into office, and then the party selects a leader to be Prime Minister.
Also, for this silly scheme to work, either Obama or Clinton would have to be willing to wait for as long as eight years to get their "turn" at the White House. There's only one problem: We havn't had one party control the White house for four straight terms in over 125 years! Not since right after the civil war. So one of them would have to be willing to risk being a single-term president. If it were that easy Bush Sr. should have easily won his second term after 8 years as VP for Reagan, but he lost his re-election to the young hot-shot with the "Change" campaign named Bill Clinton in 1992.
The point is, no one can predict what the political landscape will look like in 2016, so why risk your political career on it? That looks like a fools bargain to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 05/02/2008

Altmans just somebodys toyboy, at best...he damn sure ain't a reporter and anyone that smells of merger like he does will need more than soap to get clean. The Clinton's are thieves, liars and back stabbing white trash with money.....BFD!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 05/02/2008

the Clinton's thieves!?

Look, it takes a lot to run for President. And the Clinton's once again will bring this country to high prosperity for all.

All the while, while your wallet gets fatter---and the world gets safer----and energy policies improve---you'll still be dishin' them slime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 05/03/2008

The people who spend time on websites and blogs. listen to progressive radio, and the talking heads in the MSM whine and cry about how much damage is being done by this race going on so long. Most Americans don't have time to listen to this stuff because they are working two jobs, raising kids and trying to figure out how to survive. When you call most people in support of a candidate they are really happy to be able to have a choice this year and not have the primary over by
the time the race gets to their state. Many tell you they have never before thought their vote made a difference and didn't vote in the primaries. They are happy to actually have a presidential candidate come to their communities. They also tell you they are really excited to have two great candidates for a change and rarely does someone say they will not vote for the other candidate if their candidate loses. I think the complainers and the hand wringers once again are underestimating the American people. You would also be surprised at how many would like to see it decided at the convention.


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 05/02/2008

Look at the heart of the, "Settle-This-At-The-Convention" crap is the corporate media, as they have been "working" these candidates like a ringman, at an auction; call goes out to Clinton camp, telling that the new poll suggests they are down 7 points. Then they are told Obama, is going to the bank this morning and making new and bigger buys. The Clintyon camp has just been "worked" to the tune of another few million. Meantime, somebody from XYZ Media, is doing the same to Obama and McCain. That's why the FCC, has always referred to the broadcast facility as a money printing factory. And, that is thee only people that want the decision to be made at the convention. Look, the media is more ruthless than Bill Clinton, in heat and to further prove who they really are -ask yourself some day, in a quiet moment the following: Who benefitted most from 911? And, who benefitted most from having the Gulf War, begin in drive-time on a Friday afternoon and do you remember the sponsors? Okay, Katrina? The media is in a win-win business and the business of distracting........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 05/02/2008

I can't help recalling when Democrats were complaining about how Republicans never did anything for their country, just for the party. With the Democrats, they can never do anything for the party AND the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 05/02/2008

Thank you so much for this article. You are absolutely correct. If the Democrats were strategically smart, they would force a deal between the two candidates and we'd have an un-stoppable ticket. They aren't strategically smart, though, and they obviously favor Obama, and so I don't think we will see it. In the meantime, each candidates supporters will dig in their heals more and more, so much so that once a nominee is decided, Independents will have given up on them in disgust. Besides which, who could possibly be as good a Vice President as either one of them? I still have hope, though. The two of them together would be unbeatable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 05/02/2008

If we wanted a republican for president we would be supporting one.
Why on earth would we EVER vote for Hillary?
She is pro McCain. Pro war in the Middle East. Pro big business anti labor death squads.
Why should we EVER support her?
Never going to happen for most of the new democrats!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 05/02/2008

memphispaul:

Hillary is not pro McCain, pro war, or pro all the rest you mentioned.

She is decent person with your best interests at heart. She will help you even tho you will remain a can't-see-past-your-nose, hothead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/03/2008

Whoever gets the nomination will choose a good running mate. There are several talented vice presidential possibilities-- some of them with more substantial qualifications than either candidate.
Biden and Dodd to name two.
If we're smart enough to let this thing play out, support the nominee whoever that may, and work to get him/her elected, it will be an unstoppable ticket.Consider the alternative-- when it's time to vote most people will think long and hard about how much more Bushwacking our country can stand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 05/02/2008

Joint ticket my ass, if Hillary is on the ticket i will be FORCED to vote for McCrazy. I don't trust Hillary, never have never will. After 8 years of the Clinton machine we have learned haven't we? i have!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 05/02/2008

A an Army Ranger Somalia is still a festering wound.
I could NEVER bring myself to vote Clinton.
Never!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 05/02/2008

. REMEMBER WHITE WATER, FILEGATE, TRAVELGATE, NO MILITARY UNIFORMS ALLOWED IN THE WHITE HOUSE (AND SHE WANTS TO BE COMMANDER AND CHIEF-- DAH), hiring private investigators to discredit the women Bill Clintton abused and in the case of Juanita Brodderick-raped, stealing Vince Foster's papers before SHE let the police into his. Her enemies list her secrecy her losing papers required by court in te Rose law Firm fiasco office and MORE!!!

She is a liar, a fraud and unfit for public office in any capacity!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 05/02/2008

Don't be daft, dear wabbit.
Have you not learned from 8 years of Bush and his bad bunch of cronies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/02/2008

I think we all learned and thats why Shades of Bush, wrapped in a Hillary pants suit, ain't gonna get it. Dig?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 05/02/2008

She is a liar and a fraud and would be no better than Bush !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/02/2008

I have another theory. I think the Clinton's are not stupid. I think as the democratic convention gets closer you will see Hillary Clinton and her surrogates sound increasingly conciliatory and complimentary of Obama . Obama will no doubt be the presumptive winner.. But in the meantime, will have faced every sort of criticism and attack that we can expect to hear in any general election, thereby making him a stronger candidate because the MSM will have exhausted the public's appetite for hearing it. It keeps Obama in the spotlight. No one cares what McCain is saying they are so busy discussing Obama and Hillary. For months now, we have heard ALL about Obama and his background. His picture is everywhere. He is now a household name.

On the off chance that Hillary could have won the nomination after Super Tuesday, there was no down side from their point of view to a full on attack of Obama. Either he would have withered and put her ahead, or he would do what he has done and rise above it, look Presidential and be a stronger candidate against McCain.

I think this is their strategy and it has been since Super Tuesday and I think Obama and many others know it..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/02/2008

Nice try.
The reason the Clinton are tossing everything at Obama is because Hillary is a republican.
She and her associates care not a wit for the party or the people. They only care about their grip on power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 05/02/2008

This is outrageous! This man leads in popular votes and pledged delegates! All of the closet RACIST
schemes to install Clinton as nominee, thwarting democracy show how far bigots are willing to go to overturn democracy! If both of Obama's parents were White, nobody would suggest such a thing. The DNC, the press and Americans, at large, would've had her head for prolonging this fight!
I'm appalled and offended at this ridiculous attempt at a coup de tat!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 05/02/2008

Its the electoral college that wins elections. Surely you haven't forgotten? After all, the electoral college brought us the Bush years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/02/2008

I can't understand why Obama supporters hate Hillary so much.

They describe her as something almost evil.

I've been watching her closely for years; I look at the whole picture, rationally----and I don't see how anyone can substansuate (sp?) that she's bad for the country.

She's a good person who is for you.

Obama doesn't even know where the Wh House bathroom is, let alone get the country out of the Bush mess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 05/02/2008

This is very bad for the party because these feelings can be used against either one of the these candidates once one of them becomes the nominee, during the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 05/02/2008

Say what?
You could use some information.
Try googling Cluster Bomb Ban and Hillary Clinton.
Or better yet, you decide:

http://digg.com/political_opinion/Clinton_vs_Obama_on_the_Cluster_Bomb_Vote

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/02/2008

Hillary didn't know where the bathroom was until the first time she went there. Are you really this stupid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/02/2008

Bettysdad:

ya, and Obama is going to have to learn everything else, for the first time, as well. That's too much for him to learn as the country is a sinking ship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/03/2008

Hillary was not hated until Bill took over her campaign. My opinion. Then the "Clinton '08" campaign began to smell, look and feel like the Restoration it is. B. Clinton gave us NAFTA and that has worked out fine for the people they hang with... not so good for the rest of us. Another thing...? She and McCain are "very good friends". Yuck. This is a fight for America's future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/02/2008

Just because you've been in the Whitehouse, doesn't mean you're anymore qualified to be President.

Senator Clinton is disliked because she is on the low road. She can't win the nomination, her only hope is to trip up the leader, to injure him so he can't finish. She can't win the nomination, but she can get it by default.

Senator Clinton would be bad for the Democratic party and there for bad for the country.

She would raise the morale of Republicans, solidify support for Senator McCain. Even if she won, she wouldn't be able to build on the majorities in Congress. What happened the last time the Republican base rallied against the Clintons? Remember the so called "Republican revolution". We'd continue to have a divided county, no progress on the important issues (just like now).

I would write more, but I must go. Succinctly, what's bad for the party is bad for the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/02/2008

Clinton is NOT disliked for taking the low road. In fact, she is more liked for having taken it! She started taking what you call "the low road" after super Tuesday and has been beating him ever since. He is only ahead due to coercive caucuses in states that Democrats won't win. You need two out of three of OH, PA, or FL. He isn't going to get any of those three because of his own words, not hers.

Do the real math.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 05/04/2008

You must be either too young or too senile to remember all the horrible thing she did the last time she lived in the White Houe. REMEMBER WHITE WATER, FILEGATE, TRAVELGATE, NO MILITART UNIFPRMS ALLOWED IN THE WHITE HOUSE (AND SHE WANTS TO BE COMMANDER AND CHIEF-- DAH), hiring private investigators to discredit the women Bill Clintton abused and in the case of Juanita Brodderick-raped, stealing Vince Foster's papers before SHE let the police into his. Her enemies list her secrecy her losing papers required by court in te Rose law Firm fiasco office and MORE!!!

She is a liar, a fraud and unfit for public office in any capacity!!!!

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