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Daniel Cubias

Daniel Cubias

Posted: May 5, 2009 11:59 AM

I have one simple question for all the white Americans out there: What is the significance of Cinco de Mayo? I mean, what historical event does this day commemorate besides the advent of the two-for-one margarita special?

I do not mean this to be bitchy or accusatory. I may be playing a subtle game of racial gotcha, it's true, but what's wrong with that?

To be fair, I myself (a Latino) never heard of Cinco de Mayo until I was a teenager, which was perhaps a decade before mainstream America started celebrating diversity in sloppy, albeit sincere fashion. This eagerness to let other ethnic groups know that they are almost, very nearly American has lead to people wishing me a "Happy Independence Day" months before July 4. It's sort of like those school holiday programs, where the Jewish kids get one verse of "The Dreidel Song" in the midst of nineteen Christmas carols.

Again, I appreciate the effort. But for starters, I am not Mexican (Cinco de Mayo is, strictly speaking, only relevant to Mexico). Second, May 5 is not Mexican Independence Day (that would be September 16). And lastly, one listen to my flat, Midwestern accent should let you know that any Latin American holiday has about as much significance to my life as Oktoberfest does to a sixth-generation descendant of German immigrants... actually, maybe even less, because Oktoberfest features beer, which is most tasty.

In fact, many Hispanics who are not of Mexican descent dislike Cinco de Mayo. This animosity comes from the perception in American society that Mexico is the alpha and omega of Latino culture. The implication is that homelands like Peru or Honduras or Colombia have no history of their own. Of course, this whole Latino intercultural insurgence will be the subject of another post.

Personally, my chief memory of Cinco de Mayo is from 1998, when a ditzy California blonde broadsided my brand-new car. I don't know why I continue to associate the day with this event, but now it's stuck in my head... Damn.

In any case, Cinco de Mayo will not find me marking the day in any special manner, nor using it to justify guzzling egregious amounts of alcohol. It's just another evening to me, thank you very much.

But I do not want to leave you without concrete information (news you can use, as it were) in this post, particularly if it will help you connect with that cute girl at the end of the bar. So here are some facts about the significance of Cinco de Mayo.

It commemorates the Mexican army's victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla. The conflict had nothing to do with independence, because Mexico had been a sovereign nation for almost a half century at that point. It was more about national pride and standing up to imperialist Europeans. I guess it's sort of like Americans celebrating the Battle of New Orleans from the War of 1812, but perhaps a historian would like to correct me on that one.

Regardless, the holiday is likely more popular among Chicanos in the United States than it is in Mexico. And it's certainly far removed from its origins among the American majority culture, which as I've stated, sees it as an opportunity to get hammered.

So is this cultural appropriation bordering on disrespect? Or is a harmless excuse to party down? As a bonus question, if everyone is Irish on St. Patrick's Day (another ethnic-based celebration featuring lots of alcohol), is everyone Mexican on Cinco de Mayo?

Feel free to debate these points between ordering rounds of tequila for that special someone. You can thank me later for the icebreaker.

 
I have one simple question for all the white Americans out there: What is the significance of Cinco de Mayo? I mean, what historical event does this day commemorate besides the advent of the two-for-o...
I have one simple question for all the white Americans out there: What is the significance of Cinco de Mayo? I mean, what historical event does this day commemorate besides the advent of the two-for-o...
 
 
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01:31 PM on 05/07/2009
I was in central Mexico on business several years ago on May 5. The day meant nothing special at all to the local population. I believe it's just a commercial thing along the US border for Americans.
12:39 PM on 05/06/2009
I felt compelled to respond.

Back in 1790, on April 30, at approx 5pm, Mr. George Washington took office as President of the USA. This single act formally established the government of America. Its sorta like the US was conceived on July 4th 1776, and 14 years later, on April 30th, 1790, the USA was born. Thus I think we are dealing with an unconscious tug for Americans to celebrate the birth of their nation around this time of year.

I asked friend from Mexico what the significance was of Cinco de Mayo. He said that in Mexico it is no big deal. He said that what is so remarkable about this particular battle was that the peasants that defeated the mighty french did it by pelting the french with stones and thats how they won the battle. Undoubtedly that gave a huge moral boost with national pride, in much the same way as when we showed the British that a tiny nation could defeat them.

So then you celebrate Cinco de Mayo next year make a toast with your margarita glass but be more generic and salute all those that have dreamed big and won. Cheers!
11:57 AM on 05/06/2009
I thought it had something to do with a shipload of mayonnaise being lost on a reef off of the port of Vera Cruz.
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02:01 PM on 05/06/2009
What, you say? Something about a shipload of reefer being lost in the Mayan port of Vera Cruz?
02:29 PM on 05/06/2009
Making money? Isn't that the purpose of all holidays?
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10:26 AM on 05/06/2009
Well, yes, it is my birthday! And I am glad so many people celebrate it! ...But, seriously...most holidays are customized to our own "beliefs" anyway. I like the "Santa Claus" Christmas, others abhor it. So what?? It's good to be literate and know where these holidays originate, but after that, why should anyone really get upset if a lot of people want to celebrate around the chile peppers? In all of the places I've ever been to celebrate Cinco de Mayo (and my birthday) no one ever discussed the the Mexican army's victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla...even though many probably knew it (I did). It has become something entirely different in the minds of those of us who love to congregate with friends, eat chile rellenos and drink a margarita! It's kind of like the fuss over Halloween...most of us know where that holiday originated (a religious holiday), but we really don't care...the kids want to dress up!
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09:35 AM on 05/06/2009
Well yes I do.

Number 1 - It's my husband's birthday. Number 2 - it's the date Mexico gained its independence from Spain.

I'm from Texas.
08:22 AM on 05/06/2009
Hispanics are getting the same fractured sentiments other immigrants have. The "Irish Eyes are Smiling" goop has little to do with the real Ireland, but it does in a way commemorate the acceptance of the formerly disdained Irish by their fellow Americans.

Welcome aboard, Americans' hearts are in the right place, even if they don't really know history.
08:13 AM on 05/06/2009
Mr. C. --

When Mexico decides to act like a modern, civilized society -- instead of being mired in its 17th and 18th-century ways, socially and economically -- then, maybe, it will be taken seriously by other countries -- European, American, or otherwise.

All I ever hear from Mexico City is whining about how the US should do more to help Mexico, and how poor everyone is, and how the government needs more "time" to "bring the economy along" -- whateverrrr the hell that's supposed to mean . . .

It seems that the people doing the complaining about "the evils of colonialization" have adopted the practice as their own -- against their own citizens.
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07:02 AM on 05/06/2009
I'll celebrate Bastille Day and Canada Day too if it gives me an excuse to drink.
03:30 AM on 05/06/2009
Who drinks bear on Cinco de Mayo?
11:44 AM on 05/06/2009
Nothing better than drinking a nice, cool polar bear on Cinco de Mayo...
03:22 AM on 05/06/2009
Viva la Raza!
11:45 AM on 05/06/2009
Viva Aztlan!
03:41 PM on 05/06/2009
por supuesto
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12:44 AM on 05/06/2009
I celebrate no war. Once a war is over, only mourning is appropriate.

I pray we mourn the war in the Middle East soon.
10:43 PM on 05/05/2009
I'm Latina and my (mestizo) family has lived in the New Mexico/Colorado region since 1704, well before the Mexican battle that gave Cinco de Mayo its name. I could give a hoot about this manufactured, pandering holiday. However, the resentment expressed by other Latino groups who are recent arrivals is downright comical! Mexico is NEXT to the United States. What do they expect? Of COURSE the focus on Mexico is greater than on other Latin countries. The histories of the United States and Mexico have been linked from day one. Colorado, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Utah were all part of Mexico, and before that "New Spain" and before that Aztlan, the ancestral homeland of the great Aztec civilization. The flags of four sovereign nations have flown over Colorado: Spain, France, Mexico and the United States. Generations of Mexican Americans have lived, loved, worked, paid taxes and fought in several wars as U.S. citizens. Five generations of my family are alive and living in Colorado right now! We are not recent immigrants. We did not invent Cinco de Mayo. And, finally, although xenophobes hate Mexico, most of Latin America looks up to it for the regional leader that it is. Complaining about Americans of Mexican descent in the United States is like complaining about Basques in Spain. It's absurd, given how long we've been in this country. To quote the great Mexican leader Octavio Paz: "Poor Mexico. So far from God, so close to the United States.
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08:06 PM on 05/06/2009
Madre2, couldn't have said it better!
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10:10 PM on 05/05/2009
Always thought it was like a Mexican St. Patrick's Day -

a reason to drink mass quantities of beer to celebrate

driving the snakes outta the country...
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09:37 PM on 05/05/2009
(Cinco de Mayo (Spanish for "fifth of May") is a regional holiday in Mexico, primarily celebrated in the state of Puebla, with some limited recognition in other parts of Mexico.[1][2] The holiday commemorates the Mexican army's unlikely victory over French forces at the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862, under the leadership of Mexican General Ignacio Zaragoza Seguín.[3][4] The outnumbered Mexicans defeated a much better-equipped French army that had not been defeated in almost 50 years.

Cinco de Mayo is not "an obligatory federal holiday" in Mexico, but rather a holiday that can be observed voluntarily. While Cinco de Mayo has limited significance nationwide in Mexico, the date is observed in the United States and other locations around the world as a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride.[8] A common misconception in the United States is that Cinco de Mayo is Mexico's Independence Day,[9] which actually is September 16 (dieciséis de septiembre in Spanish),[10] the most important national patriotic holiday in Mexico.

In 1861, Mexico ceased making interest payments to its main creditors. In response, in late 1861, France (and other European countries) attacked Mexico to try to force payment of this debt. France decided that it would try to take over and occupy Mexico. France was successful at first in its invasion; however, on May 5, 1862, at the city of Puebla, Mexican forces were able to defeat an attack by the larger French army.
12:52 PM on 05/06/2009
Nice!

So really, the back-story is that Cinco de Mayo celebrates getting away with defiantly failing to meet international obligations?

NO wonder it's so popular here in the U.S.
08:35 PM on 05/05/2009
Cinco de Mayo is an adult holiday in the USA. It's not about history here, it's about limes and salt-rimmed glasses.

See

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/%c2%a1salud/
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02:22 PM on 05/06/2009
Yes, I believe you're correct. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole 'celebration' idea was cooked up by some ad agency for the purpose of selling something. And most Americans went along with it thinking it was a way to show appreciation for their Latin friends & neighbors (not realizing it was relevant only to Mexicans, and not really all that important to most of them). Saying that it's the 'Mexican version of St. Patrick's Day 'is not too far off (since both are celebrated much louder here in America than in the country of origin).

All things considered, dispite the best intentions of non-Latinos in America to honor their Latin neighbors, I cannot think of any particular day in the entire year that would fit the bill- i.e. a day celebrated by all Latinos that is distinctly Latino.

Now that I think about it, the same holds true for most ethnic groups.