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Among GOP Candidates, Not a Single Friend of Social Security

Posted: 12/19/2011 2:26 pm

The Strengthen Social Security Campaign has created a guide evaluating the "friendliness" of six Republican candidates, "Among Republican Candidates, Not a Single Friend of Social Security." The Campaign has also produced longer individual profiles of Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich's particular records on Social Security.

Some key take-aways that may have slipped by casual observers of the 2012 race can be found in the Strengthen Social Security Campaign's guide to the Republican candidates (click link for version with supporting quotes not included below):


  • Every candidate except for Rick Santorum has smeared Social Security a Ponzi scheme, fraud or unconstitutional.

  • Although Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich have never explicitly endorsed raising the retirement age, it is almost beside the point, because they both are outspoken advocates of much more radical changes. Paul thinks Social Security is unconstitutional and should therefore be dismantled. Gingrich would like to privatize the program along the lines of the Chilean or Galveston model. (Unfortunately both approaches failed their participants. See Economic Opportunity Institute on Chile, and Michael Hiltzik of the LA Times on the Galveston plan.)

  • Despite Romney's early claim to be a defender of Social Security, he supported George Bush's attempt to privatize the program.


Here is the Strengthen Social Security Campaign's guide to the Republican candidates.

Source: StrengthenSocialSecurity.org

Download this chart with supporting quotes as a PDF.

Additional Detailed Fact Sheets:

Newt Gingrich

Rick Perry

Mitt Romney

Disclaimer: Views expressed are the author's own.

 

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10:44 AM on 01/04/2012
Ron Paul actually was the main sponsor of the Social Security Preservation Act which would have prevented congress from stealing the SS trust funds. Unfortunately for the elderly and soon to be retired congress failed to pass this bill. Ron Paul sponsored and voted for several bills that would have helped those on Social Security. Including acts that would have allowed retirees to continue to work and would have prevented SS benefits from being taxed.

Social Security is unconstitutional. It is pretty fair to say that no where in Article 1 section 8 does it say the power to create a social safety net. Which means only the individual states can propose that kind of safety net. Secondly, SS will collapse on itself in the end if we continue the course we are on. Beneficiaries retiring today will receieve an approximate $100,000 more in benefits then they paid in meaning their children will be paying more into it to cover that increase, and that will keep growing and growing exponentially and eventually be unsustainable.

Ron Paul suggests we cut the foreign military interventionism to shore up entitlements until we can find a better alternative as well as allowing younger generations(Those under 25) to opt out if they so choose which would eleviate the future burden on taxpayers.
02:58 PM on 12/22/2011
Statistics have proven that the higher earner is living longer but not the average earner. The higher earner gets the higher Social Security benefits, too.

Saying we are all living longer is another rumor started by the wealthy/Wall Street to weaken Social Security.

We should consider keeping the payroll tax cut but take the ceiling off so those who earn more than $110,000 will pay more and those who make less will pay less. We all could have the lower rate but everyone pays on all their paycheck.
10:41 AM on 12/20/2011
Actually, I don't want my money taken out of my check to go towards a program that won't be there when I retire.

I'm in my mid-twenties, I'd rather have the option of opting into Social Security if I wanted to, than being forced into it like I am at the moment.

I believe I could do a better job at saving for my retirement, than the government can. Wouldn't it be the American way for people to choose to be in a program, rather than forcing me to be in it??

So Ron Paul takes the points here.
06:58 PM on 12/20/2011
Absolutely right - the above 'writer' neglected to do his research yet again - Ryan, among other Repubs, has a workable solution to save Social Security but the Dimokraps don't want to acknowledge it. They prefer to use their grandchildrens' credit card.
11:13 PM on 12/21/2011
OK... If you sign a statement that no matter how destitute you become, you will not take a dime of social assistance. Even unto death!!!!
02:38 PM on 12/22/2011
If younger generations stand up against the government cutting Social Security it will be there when you retire. They want you to think it won't be there for you. Wall Street wants your money.
With Social Security, your employer matches the amount you pay from payroll taxes.

If you die after working 10 years, your surviving children will get benefits until they are 18. If you had not paid for Social Security and were only invested in the market, and you die after 10 years your children get no benefits. Even if you had $200,000 in a 401k, you would be lucky if it lasted your family 6 years without Social Security. That would be around $32,600 a year for 6 years.

If you become disabled, Social Security will pay you benefits until you die or become able again. The stock market won't do that.

If you live to retirement age, you will get a check every month. It is not charity, because you pay for it out of payroll while you are younger. I have 3 daughters and 3 son in laws. I want them to have Social Security. It is worth paying for.

It is not like we can't invest in a 401k, too. I consider my Social Security as bonds.

There are lots of things I don't like paying for like wars, bank bailouts, wall street derivatives, etc.

Younger workers have paid a lot in already for Social Security and Medicare. I wouldn't give it up.
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Michael D Ballantine
Texas Justice Party - Chairperson
04:44 AM on 12/20/2011
Once upon a time, Social Security was the third rail, now it is like magnet. The Republicans have made it clear that pensions have to be cut and they contrast with European systems where people retire in their 50s. Seriously, should we really punish seniors for having good health and daring to live longer? The real problem is the Federal Deficit. As interest rates begin to rise in another year, it will reduce revenues by $160 billion for each percent increase. That money has to come from somewhere and seniors are the obvious target. Washington needs to reduce entitlements to pay for the Bush wars. It's that simple, seniors are being thrown under the bus because the 1% got a tax cut. We need a progressive in the White House who will stand behind our seniors and protect Medicare, better yet, give Medicare to everyone.
10:46 AM on 12/20/2011
What do you say to younger people that don't want to be in Social Security?

Ron Paul wants to cut military spending, and use that money for programs such as Medicare and Social Security in order to help out seniors that have become completely dependent on such programs.

At the same time, he wants to allow younger people to have the opportunity to opt out of these same programs and save for retirement in their own ways.

What are your opinions?
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Michael D Ballantine
Texas Justice Party - Chairperson
08:56 PM on 12/20/2011
I'd say Ron Paul is using a Chinese calculator and needs to return it to get his money back. Social Security and Medicare are pay as you go systems. If you allow younger people to opt out, that means they won't be contributing to Social Security. Where will the money come from to support the elderly in 10 or 15 years? The math does not work. Currently, we spend $780 billion a year on Social Security and about $900 billion a year on Medicare/Medicaid. Total military spending is about $660 billion, even if you cut it in half, it's not enough to support the program. What Ron Paul said is he wants to continue it for the truly needy which translates to means testing and what does he mean by "truly needy?" What he is saying is that if you were smart and put aside a little money or earned a good pension, he will cut you off. It seems a little rude to punish people for being smart or healthy.

I think we should allow a private component that people can use for retirement and allow some comingling of funds but the government has to provide a safety net. Further, I think we should tax consumption to pay for these programs, not income.
11:06 AM on 12/23/2011
Ron Paul would do better to use the military savings to pay for the wars.
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skylark
Tangled up in blue..
06:34 PM on 01/08/2012
Fanned and faved.
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
11:49 PM on 12/19/2011
Put a 4th column there, How many are for reducing the Capital Gangster Bankster preferential tax rates of 15%? ALLL of them...every frigging one of them..... why should the rich pay ANY taxes when they can dump it on the grunts, just the way that they did doubling up the Payroll Taxes so that there is a 4 trillion dollar surplus that is used to offset tax guts for the rich.....
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
09:58 PM on 12/19/2011
Social INSECURITY drives down wages........that's good for business, and we all know that's what the Republican Party stands for isn't it.................Business.

Well not really.

Speaking as a small business owner I found out that simply isn't true.

Small business depends for the most part on a strong vibrant middle class, to purchase our goods and services. We need their demand, in order to stay in business ourselves. Trickle down economics has devastated America's once burgeoning middle class, into a shadow of what it once was.

IMPO.........The Republican party represents BIG Business. The ones who pay for their political advertisements and donate to their campaigns.

Big Business doesn't care about, or want an American middle class. They can sell their products worldwide, and on credit, which also adds to their bottom lines, and their bottom lines are the ONLY thing they care about.

If the current Republican leadership gets their way, America will become the greatest Fascist Nation in the history of the world.

Lord help us. they may yet succeed...... in my lifetime.
07:00 PM on 12/20/2011
Actually, if you were interested in facts, it is union demands that have devestated the middle class by forcing corporations to move elsewhere to stay in business.
11:20 PM on 12/21/2011
What on earth are you talking about? No one held a gun to them and said they must leave. For that matter, no one said they had to stay in business at all. If they want to take their business overseas, fine. But we charge them a tariff to sale their products in the US equal to what the difference would be to make it here. Fair is fair.
09:55 AM on 12/24/2011
The only reason the businesses go overseas is they want bigger profits and the hell with the 99% who worked for them, bought from them and built up their businesses.

The unions are earning what most of the middle class should be earning.
09:54 AM on 12/24/2011
You are a breath of fresh air.
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billw8017
History looks like this
09:12 PM on 12/19/2011
The Tea Party is dominated by older citizens. We have to wonder how much they really like their Tea Party Republicans. Republicans who have not come out for the Tea Party do not seem to approve of it, but have switched their votes in NY 26 and against particular TP crazies. Yet through the primaries, the candidates concentrate on gaining the TP vote. Perhaps, Romney will win the nomination because he seems more progressive and the TP calls him a RINO.
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named after a great play written by Clifford Odets
06:43 PM on 12/19/2011
Let the television ads begin.
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Jerry Bourbon
06:40 PM on 12/19/2011
Blithely pretending that there is actually money in the Trust Fund, and that a 30% increase in life expectancy will have not affect on Social Security's future viability is not what true "friends" of the program should be doing...
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billw8017
History looks like this
09:22 PM on 12/19/2011
Perhaps a quarter century of assured solvency even in the worst case scenario (the SS governors make 3 predictions and the worst is GDP growth under 2%; that is to say, perpetual recession) should be considered. Shall we cut SS 40% now because 25 years from now some say we have to cut it 40% to keep it self financing? If Republicans are such great prognosticators, how did we ever get into such a recession?

Go ahead. Tell me they planned this.

When life expectancy increases 30% and we can plan on living to 105 it is time for more seniors to continue working. Of course, more would be working right now if they could hold or find jobs.
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05:07 PM on 12/19/2011
Mr. Marans, I respectfully suggest you do just a little more research regarding Dr. Paul's position on Social Security.

Social Security Preservation Act of 2009. H.R. 219
Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act. H.R. 162
Social Security for Americans Only Act of 2009. H.R. 160

He also co-sponsored the SS limit appeal that now enables seniors to continue working after retirement, if they choose, without being penalized.

You're right, Dr. Paul considers Social Security to be unConstitutional in that the Constitution does not provide for things like Social Security and Medicare. But he also recognizes the contract, the promise, the government made to our seniors and has tried to preserve and protect that promise.
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
11:54 PM on 12/19/2011
I respectfully request that you read Mr Paul's positions on women's choices and women's rights....that was enough to turn me off him entirely....
10:47 AM on 01/04/2012
I have read them thouroughly. He simple suggest that we allow the people of their respective states decide on where they stand on the abortion issue. If a state say CA wished to allow abortions then they have every right to allow it. However, if another state say NY wishes to make abortions illegal they too also have that right to do so. The people of each respective state can decide what kind of state they live in. If you don't like you can go to your state legislator and petition the law be changed.

What most don't understand about Roe Vs. Wade is that it is a law written by federal judges. However federal judges do not have the power to create law. The power to write law was specifically left to the legislative branch.
04:09 PM on 12/19/2011
Is it really reporting if you just 'guess' what you are 'sure' someone's position is? Ron Paul thinks social security and medicare are contract rights, and you know libertarians and property rights, don't you?

Still so 'sure?'

Ron Paul's plan to balance the budget in three years doesn't cut a penny from either social security or medicare and likely fixes social security in perpetuity with no drop in benefits. Medicare is so far in the hole it may not be a complete fix, it will depend on how much better the economy does. But his plan takes him through his presidency and doesn't cut either.
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susanbsbi
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04:36 PM on 12/19/2011
Paul thinks Social Security is unconstitutional and should therefore be dismantled. This has been Ron Paul's comments all along. Medicare is in the Hole, because the congress borrowed the money. Please read up on the facts about medicare before speaking. I know it inside out, as I am on it, use to bill medicare and read the book they send us every year of what they are going to pay and what we have to pay.
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04:53 PM on 12/19/2011
True, Dr. Paul would like to see it phased out. However, he also understands that a promise made to US citizens should be kept. Which is why he wants to use the money saved from foreign aid to bolster and secure both Social Security and Medicare. Why give money to foreign governments when our parents need it more?

Dr. Paul also authored two bills in 2009. One bill would have made SS benefits tax exempt - you'd not have to pay federal tax on SS. The second bill would have made SS hands-off. Congress would not be able to pilfer from the SS fund to pay for other programs. Sadly, it never made it out of the bipartisan committee - both Democrats and Republicans squashed it.
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Just logic
05:01 PM on 12/19/2011
He also said that it would be unethical if someone took away programs that people became dependent on. In his plan he allows for people under the age of 25 to opt out of the program. So its voluntary not mandatory. Paul also furthered this because he is the only person running that pushed a bill that would separate the SSI and Medicare funds preventing anyone to borrow the funds. Of course that was turned down. So that guy did know what he was talking about. His plan does sure up SSI and Medicare without any cuts. It actually will keep on the same path using money we give other countries as foreign aid. He has repeatedly stated that we need the money for our needing citizens. So this article is bias and tries to scare seniors into believing that their benefits will go away if you vote for a Republican. I cant say to the rest but I do know Ron Paul’s stance.
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billw8017
History looks like this
09:31 PM on 12/19/2011
Ron Paul also considers the Constitution a contract and he has taken an oath to support it. In his practice, he did not accept Medicare or Medicaid -- which is easier for an obstetrician than for a dentist, of course. Paul clearly struggles with these considerations so that a sympathizer might suppose he has some way to keep them going. You say "contract obligations," but it seems more like you and he are depending on the good fairies to provide.

What exactly did he say he would do about the uninsured 26 year old with a sudden medical emergency? Doctor charity?
11:09 PM on 12/19/2011
You have to separate his philosophy from what he said he would do as president. As president he said he would give the money for the welfare health programs to the states in block grants as lump sums and get rid of the federal departments to cut off that overhead cost.

In his philosophy, yeah, he would have charity do it. When he was in the air force he moonlighted at a charity hospital at $3 an hour and they took everyone. IN his practice he never took medicaid and medicare and if you don't know how many pregnancies are on medicaid you just aren't looking. He gave service discounted and for free. But that is NOT what he is saying he will require as president. He just want's to turn the country around and put it on sound footing and get rid of inflation.

His plan is on his campaign website under the issues tab. It is only 14 pages for the executive summary.
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
11:58 PM on 12/19/2011
Don't hear much anymore about Ron Paul's election staff member who went bankrupt because of healthcare bills of $400,000....