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Newt Is Wrong

Posted: 01/24/2012 11:25 am

Newt Gingrich is using Chile as the laboratory example for his proposal on Social Security reform. But his data about the Chilean experience is dead wrong and misleading.

Which South American country has been the most mentioned in the current season of Republican [residential debates? Surprisingly, the answer is not Venezuela or Brazil. It is Chile. Over and over again, two former candidates -- Herman Cain and Rick Perry -- and one debates star -- Newt Gingrich -- have mentioned Chile as a path to follow in the reform of the Social Security system.

On Monday's debate in South Carolina, the former Speaker goes further. He cited in detail the Chilean system as an example to promote the reform. "They have done it for 30 years. It is, as a historian, a fact-based model," he claimed. But this time, the historian was not accurate. Newt's explanation of the Chilean system was dead wrong on almost every count.

He said that the system is voluntary; it is mandatory. He said that the program is self-funding; but the government has to subsidize retirement payment. He said that the system reverses inequality; it does not.

"First of all, it's totally voluntary" the former Speaker said. The point is not true. Chilean workers do not have the option to choose. Since 1981, when the system was implemented under the dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet, it is mandatory for any new worker who enters the labor force to put his or her money into personal retirement accounts, run by private for-profit companies, called the AFPs (Spanish for "Pension Fund Managers"). Ten percent of every worker's salary goes to the private account. An additional 2 percent of the salary goes to the AFPs, as "management charges."

The only exceptions are the armed forces and the police, who imposed the reform to the citizens during the dictatorship, but kept their own social security-style system for themselves.

"In 30 years they have never written a single check, because nobody has fallen below the minimum payment of Social Security," Gingrich continued. Again, the point is not true. A big percentage of the retirement accounts do not reach the minimum payment.

This situation forced a change of the system in 2008 (a reform of the reform) to assure public pension benefits for these workers.

According to the last official information, in November 2011, the AFPs paid 911.324 retirement checks. 447.446 of them (49 percent) were subsidized by the government. Additionally, the government had to "write checks" for 615.560 retired who are not covered by the system, because they were independent workers or had long periods of unemployment.

The government estimates that by 2025 only 40 to 50 percent of the retired will receive a private pension above the minimum of $227 per month. After the 2008 reform, a reinforced public system will pay for the rest.

More of Newt: "They (Chileans) now have 74 percent of the GDP in their savings fund." This time he was roughly right. To be accurate, there is $157 billion currently in retirement accounts, 70 percent of Chilean GDP. His point is true: the private account system creates an enormous pool of savings that, in the words of the creator of the system, former Labor Minister José Piñera, "has helped finance economic growth and spurred the development of liquid long-term domestic capital market."

From the Chilean example, Gingrich jumped into American future. Copy-pasting this system, he said, "you actually reduce wealth inequality in America by 50 percent over the next generation because everybody becomes a saver and an investor."

If Gingrich is using Chile as an example, this is an audacious statement. In the last 30 years Chilean economy has flourished, for sure, but the private accounts system has not reduced inequality. On the contrary, today Chile is one of the most unequal countries on earth, as is shown by its Gini Index (the measure of inequality, where 0 represents a country in which every person has the same income, and 1 represents a country in which one person has the 100 percent of the income).

After 30 years of private retirement accounts, Chile's Gini Index is 0.503, the worst of all members of OECD (30 years ago was between 0.52 and 0.54, according to different estimates). In the U.S.A., where inequality had grown in the last decades, the Gini Index is still better than in Chile: 0.468.

Gingrich is the best debater in the GOP field. As he said in the last debate at Thursday night, "I have grandiose thoughts." Sure. But, at least when it comes to Chile and the social security reform, his grandiose thoughts are greater than reality.

 
Newt Gingrich is using Chile as the laboratory example for his proposal on Social Security reform. But his data about the Chilean experience is dead wrong and misleading. Which South American country...
Newt Gingrich is using Chile as the laboratory example for his proposal on Social Security reform. But his data about the Chilean experience is dead wrong and misleading. Which South American country...
 
 
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05:29 PM on 01/25/2012
So you googled him? Did his book about a football club appeared? let me tell yo he is also a well known politics journalist. I know he is right about the AFP's and I'm sure your retirement scheme doesn't depend on AFP's, lucky you!!
11:03 AM on 01/25/2012
Matamala is also confused. The journalist asked a question about the government 'guarantee' on returns. Newt, in an implicit way, refered to Chile's government guarantee on a minimum RATE OF RETURN (relative to the average rate of return). That guarantee has never been necessary in 30 years and, as Newt said, it has cost zero to the government.

Matamala, who as a sports journalist in Chile probably ignores this sophisticated piece of financial engeneering, completly misses the point and goes on to describe the minimum SAFETY NET, that of course has nothing to do with the guarantee on minimum returns.
10:33 AM on 01/25/2012
Matamala is wrong. Newt was obviously refering to the introduction of the system of personal accounts, which in Chile was totally VOLUNTARY in 1981. Every worker already in the old Social Security system was given the choice of remaining in the (bankrupt) government-run system or moving to the one of personal accounts.

Of course every Social Security system is mandatory, either unfunded or funded. But the uniqueness of Chile is that it makes it voluntary to choose among those two.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
08:43 PM on 01/24/2012
Confabulate and Conflate for the Crony Crossdressing Capitalists...trying to milk Wall Street for campaign funds...

REAL CAPITALISTS don't need bailouts or lobbiests or preferential tax rates.....
04:23 PM on 01/24/2012
Newt wants Wall Street to get a hold of the $2.6 trillion in the Social Security Trust Fund, as well as the money coming in yearly from payroll taxes. And he wants private firms to make money from 20% administrative costs (administrative costs for Social Security are currently less than 2%).

In the Chilean privatized retirement scheme that Newt loves so much, Chilean workers pay 10% of their salaries to personal retirement accounts, plus another 2% for the pension fund managers. It doesn't matter to Gingrich that about half of all retirement payments from the private accounts have to be subsidized, and that 40% of retirees are paid only from government (public) funds.

Newt continues to spout the lie that the system is voluntary, and that it has not cost the Chilean government anything, because apparently if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
08:45 PM on 01/24/2012
Those administrative fees actually result in 401k returns that are worse than Treasuries...and even when they looose your money they take that fee.... This is the worst idea ever....
01:48 PM on 01/24/2012
Voy de a un tópico por vez.

No solo es obligatorio el sistema, además los primeros 2 años te obligan a ir a una AFP, sin opción de cambiarte.

Es importante destacar que los fondos de las AFP se prestan como crédito, cobrando intereses, al Estado, para realizar Obras Públicas (si, dinero de todos los chilenos, que no obtienen beneficios de ese préstamo).

También olvidaste el hecho de que sistema está diseñado para que los 'ricos' obtengan mucho más beneficio por rebaja de impuestos en el Aporte Previsional Voluntario (APV) ¿igualdad decía Gingrich?

No sé si podrás hacerle cambios a la columna ya publicada, pero eso apoyaría tu tesis. Suerte, y gracias por la opinión.

ENGLISH:

One topic at a time.

Not only is compulsory the system, and the first 2 years you are forced to go to an AFP, without the option to change yourself.

Is worth mentioning that the AFP funds are provided as a credit, at interest, to the State for public works (yes, money for all Chileans, without profit from the loan).

You also forget the fact that system is designed so that the 'rich people' get much more benefit from tax cuts in the Voluntary Pension Contribution (APV). Have said Gingrich equality?

I don't know if you can make changes to the column after it has been published, but this would support your thesis. Good luck, and thanks for the opinion.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
01:36 PM on 01/24/2012
How could anybody believe a word or idea Newt spouts? The man is fountain of bad ideas.
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01:16 PM on 01/24/2012
I'm shocked, shocked I say, to find that a Republican Presidential candidate is trying to mislead the American public by making statements that contradict facts, and then trying to portray the false reality so created as a proven model for success.

;-! had to channel my inner Groucho on that one.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
08:47 PM on 01/24/2012
Shocked, shocked, I thought that was Claude Rains.....
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11:24 PM on 01/24/2012
You're right, I was sleepy when I wrote that.
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01:08 PM on 01/24/2012
Why would Gingrich ever be expected to represent facts from the real world? He comes from a class of politicians who imagine that they can re-shape the world with mere words, that people will believe their fake representations.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
08:47 PM on 01/24/2012
Well it worked for both Bushs....
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12:55 PM on 01/24/2012
Newt is more concerned with the 2% management fees, and the resulting political contributions.