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Hate Obamacare? Don't Worry, Here Are Some Countries You Can Move To

Posted: 06/29/2012 12:49 pm

On the heels of the announcement of the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the majority of the Affordable Care Act, Buzzfeed released a compilation of tweets by outraged citizens claiming that they were going to move to Canada in an effort to avoid Obamacare.

While I may not agree with their utter disappointment at the prospect of roughly 40 million uninsured Americans being granted access to affordable health care, as a dual citizen of the U.S. and Canada, I feel somewhat of a responsibility to inform these people, in addition to those who have similar feelings but somehow held back from voicing them on Twitter, that Canada probably isn't the best place to go to avoid universal health care. In fact, it hasn't been since 1966.

While this may come as a disappointment to some who were hoping to blissfully drink Tim Horton's coffee while observing impoverished people die from treatable ailments, fear not: There are plenty of countries that you can move to where you'll have absolutely no government-mandated access to health care.

Perhaps you might consider moving to Haiti. Not only would you be able to dodge socialist doctors, but you might be able to avoid medical professionals altogether: The country only has 25 physicians per 100,000 people. While access to clean water may be a bit spotty, this is more than made up for by the short life expectancy and the absence of Barack Obamas. Pack your swimsuit!

But maybe Haiti is still a little too close to our socialist empire for comfort. (Dear God, what if America's newfound brand of Marxist, fascist dictatorship were to spread?!) Don't worry, because the majority of the continent of Africa is far away from both Obamacare -- and any sort of care whatsoever. In fact, for you diehard libertarians who hate having your government provide things, there aren't many places better-suited for you than Liberia. Not only will the Liberian government not provide you with health care, but it will also fail to provide for just about every other basic human need. It's no coincidence that the country's motto is, "The love of liberty brought us here," because nothing represents the anti-Obamacare brand of liberty than a very high risk of catching a serious infectious disease and a low likelihood of finding the resources to treat it. As a bonus for you fans of the Second Amendment who feel that it's necessary to have a gun on you at all times, you're going to love this beautiful land where that's probably a pretty good idea.

Now, I know what you're thinking: "But what if I hate Obamacare and also love human-rights violations? Where can I live to satisfy both these passions?" Worry not, friend, because I have four beautiful syllables for you: Turkmenistan. The former Soviet region not only abolished its free public health care in 2004, but it was also once again named as a chronic abuser of human rights by the United States State Department this past May.

There's really no reason to suffer through the grave injustice of universal health care when there is such a robust sampling of countries that (are not industrialized and) will happily allow you to not experience Obamacare. Granted, many have been plagued by poverty, unemployment, and civil war, but how is living in those conditions that different from life under the Obama administration? Have you seen that Rick Santorum ad? Spooky!

Of course, your other option is to continue to utilize your private health-care plan, as you are entitled to do, while taking pride in the fact that your country, which currently spends much more per capita on health care than any other nation in the world, has found a way to increase coverage for its citizens while reducing the deficit.

On the other hand, I hear Bangladesh is lovely this time of year.

 

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11:44 AM on 08/01/2012
As a USer living in Canada I've experienced both healthcare systems. Living in Canada I'm not sure that Canadians appreciate fully what they have. When you don't know the actual cost of your healthcare some readily take advantage. On the other hand it's so hard for me to understand how the US fights "socialized medicine". It breaks my heart that working tax paying Americans can lose everything due to medical bills. Until USers get sick enough of it, I imagine they will continue to tolerate it.

No system is perfect not even Canada's

Loved the article and as your sense of humor

Nancy
02:39 PM on 08/20/2012
Oh, we know how lucky we are. Access to healthcare for all citizens, gun control, clean water, embracing our diverse population - the constant juxtaposition of all these things with reports from Fox News reminds us every day just how lucky!
01:30 AM on 07/31/2012
I don't have a strong feeling on it one way or the other. There is something seriously wrong with our healthcare system. However, government mandates are dangerous when they set precedent. In this instance, the government is mandating all the way down to the individual level because they say NOT buying healthcare falls under an active commercial action, something the government feels they should control. So, if they can sanction you for NOT because it costs someone money in the long run, then now they can (and really, if we're going down this path, SHOULD) start fining people for being fat, smoking, drinking too much, doing drugs, any sort of action deemed unnecessarily hazardous to your health. Hell, Japan already fines people for being fat. Normally, I'd be opposed to that kind of thing. However, if the government is going to start telling us what we have to do. Don't flirt that line. Cross the hell out of it.
06:28 PM on 07/30/2012
It is hilarious how people here talk about socialism and don't have the faintest idea of what that is. It is also quite interesting how people continue to look down on functioning public health systems like we have one in Germany (and in most other european countries for that matter) whlie they are paying more for their private insurance plans in America than they would here, where everyone has coverage. The same aplies to free education. While your kids still pay off their student loans at age 35, our students enjoy free university education and spend their vacation time on Florida's beaches :-)
10:55 PM on 07/05/2012
Priceless! I love this.
07:57 AM on 07/05/2012
I have a better idea. Let's elect Mitt for President.
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Effren Hernandez
Now go, tell the others
01:51 AM on 07/10/2012
About 68% of Californoians will vote for Mitt, if he forces Obama back to Kenya...I can not believe how these folks play it..
02:40 PM on 08/20/2012
A better idea than what? Sticking sharp objects in our eyes? Even then, I'm not sure I'd choose Romney.
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cameron d
Good Guys Win
12:12 AM on 07/05/2012
As a Canadian all I have to say is "hey America, come join us in the 21st Century. We've been waiting for you guys."
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Cincity Cin
09:08 PM on 07/04/2012
Have they moved already?
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cameron d
Good Guys Win
11:59 PM on 07/04/2012
I hope my border patrol officers didn't let them through. We don't need any of that up in Canada.
05:34 PM on 07/04/2012
Americans pay for their government with taxes. The big banks and corporations are trying to overthrow the government. YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT! You shrink the parts of government that help you you are working against your best interest. Unless you are a major shareholder you have no recourse in what a big bank wants to do or big company tries to do. You do have say in what your government does because you own it. The one percent gets theirs thought big contracts from the government. Now they want your share. They will tax you and contrary to popular belief will spend spend spend.
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Jung Gehr
Apôtre de la liberté d'expression
05:18 PM on 07/04/2012
Socialism is the answer to healthcare ,but even in Staline's days ,the leaders of the Soviet Union had access to private doctors,specialists while ordinary people had plenty of time to die before they could see a ''doctor''.Do you think that Harper goes to the local hospital when he's sick or needs to see a psychiatrist ??!
12:21 PM on 07/04/2012
Um, well first of all I don't think anybody is going to move to Canada to get away from universal health care, they're moving to Canada to get decent, affordable health care. Arguing about health coverage in this country is like arguing about whether you should put out a forest fire with a gallon of milk, or water... neither will work because a gallon isn't enough. The SYSTEM needs to be fixed, not the coverage. Health care reform does not need to include a single word about "insurance" or "coverage". Fix the system so that people can afford it, and the rest gets real simple. Stop ridiculous malpractice suits, stop big rx companies from making the cheap drugs that work from being available so that we have to buy the newly patented expensive ones, stop insurance companies from being able to deny coverage every time they feel like it, and make employers start employing people full time so that they can be eligible for benefits. There is much more, but nobody's reading this anyways:( Everybody's watching the billion dollar auction, that used to be called an election
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Renifer
Tea-Partiers are really Neo-Birchers
05:28 PM on 07/06/2012
1 "Stop ridiculous malpractice suits"

That's not a serious problem. It's a right wing talking point intended to distract.

2. "stop big rx companies from making the cheap drugs that work"

Huh ? I think you meant to say something else here. If not, then.. Huh? WTF?

3. "stop insurance companies from being able to deny coverage every time they feel like it"

Two things. This includes the word "insurance", which you find objectionable, and this is already part of Commonwealth Care and the ACA. That, and an end to "pre-existing conditions".

4. "make employers start employing people full time"

Um, that actually *is* socialism.
The better approach was rejected by the right wing, which was to uncouple health insurance from employment, and remove it from the equation such that people can get affordable health care even if they don't have employment, full time or otherwise.

Both ACA and Commonwealth Care were designed by an MIT professor and have been proven to work in Massachusetts, covering more people and reducing costs.
You sound pretty confused. May I suggest that you read the ACA?
11:52 PM on 07/06/2012
1. malpractice insurance goes up, which in turn gets passed on to the consumer (patient) Therefore the doctors main concern becomes seeing as many patients as possible, and ordering as many unneccasary tests and procedures as possible and the actual well being of the patient becomes secondary. No distraction here.
2. read it again... I said stop big rx companies from making the cheap drugs unavailable to us, so that we have to buy the expensive ones that don't work as well.
3. . Insurance companies regularly deny coverage for things that are clearly covered under your policy. They tell you how long you are "allowed" to stay in hospitals, therapy, nursing homes, etc. My statement is that if you have health insurance, you should be covered, not that I "object" to insurance.
4. Corporations should have to follow certain humanitarian guidelines that protect the people that work for them. Perfect example, walmart Those people without benefits either suffer, get on medicaid, or some other form of insurance that the taxpayers pay for, or they just go to the hospital every time they have something wrong, which again drives up the cost for everybody.... except walmart.
11:52 PM on 07/06/2012
I have read the ACA, but I'm not familiar with Commonwealth care, I don't care who they were designed by, and I don't care where they have been "proven" to work. If you don't change the system, the result will not change. I am not confused at all, I just don't take propaganda at face value. My point, which you so elegantly steered around, is that people aren't moving to Canada to get away from universal health care, they're moving away from a fee based health care system that is getting worse because our politicians are representing the corporations, not the people, and allowing the insurance companies to drive up costs. Notice that doesn't have any political affiliation attached to it. You are very quick to label me as "right wing" and socialist, trying to stir up a republican bashing defense, but I don't have political ties, and that keeps me open minded, and thinking forward, not just repeating sound bites from my candidate of choice.
05:27 AM on 07/04/2012
If you decide to comment on something on here, or anywhere online, at least have the decency to check Wikipedia before you post inaccurate/racist/jingoistic/rambling/blatantly non-factual information.
02:46 PM on 08/20/2012
Yeah, that's good advice. Check Wikipedia, the source most widely associated with inaccurate/jingoistic/rambling/blatantly non-factual information. Perhaps before expressing an opinion one should ensure they've done their research. Wikipedia wouldn't count as that. Or did you find that advice on Wikipedia yourself?
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frdm399
Freedom is about choice
01:35 AM on 07/04/2012
How come socialists love obama?
05:25 AM on 07/04/2012
They don't because he never does anything remotely socialist. Obamacare is a market based "solution' to the healthcare crisis, not the socialist idea of a single-payer system.
02:48 PM on 08/20/2012
Do you know any socialists? I'd be surprised if you did. Do you even know what a socialist is?
01:20 AM on 08/21/2012
debRam, all you do is insult without providing evidence or thought. Contribute to the discussion or go watch FOX so you can nod along and not bother to think.
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frdm399
Freedom is about choice
01:31 AM on 07/04/2012
Since most Americans still don't like obamacare I suggest the minority move out.
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cameron d
Good Guys Win
12:01 AM on 07/05/2012
Apparently you love spending the most amount of money for the 37th best health care. Math was never your strong suit in school, was it?

By the way, a lot of Americans don't like "Obamacare" because it isn't Single Payer.
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frdm399
Freedom is about choice
04:26 PM on 07/05/2012
What numbers I do know are the ones concerning my wallet. Since passing this law my insurance premiums have gone from $240 dollars a month to $360 a month an increase directly attributed to obamacare by the insurance company. So as far as I'm concerned that's a big thanks for nothing obama.
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05:38 AM on 07/05/2012
Polls show that a strong majority approve of the key elements of the Affordable Care Act when presented to them objectively. So the idea that most don't approve is more a comment on their ignorance of what it actually is rather than their informed opinion.
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frdm399
Freedom is about choice
04:21 PM on 07/05/2012
True most Americans like no preconditions, being able to keep their kids on their plan, etc. What they don't like is the mandate which most think is overstepping the power of the federal government. In the polls I've seen this outweighs the benefits consequently the majority of people think it should be repealed. I work for a large company with union and salary people. The overwhelming majority don't like the law and say they will not vote for obama as a consequence (union members included). The bottom line is Americans don't like to be forced to do anything, it seems to be about choice.
11:09 PM on 07/05/2012
Very true statement. The issue is this. No one is interested in informing citizens except a few and their reach doesn't seem to get to the ones who need to be educated. They listen to Glen Beck and Rush as well as a few other nuts!
08:29 PM on 07/03/2012
Maybe we'd all just like to go to the doctor when we're sick and not have some dictator tell us when and how. And maybe if we didn't spend trillions of dollars helping people in other countries who afterwards turn around and chant "Death to Americans," we have enough money here for free health care. And since everyone is going to die, why not make everyone buy cemetery plots or cremation plans? Strange that the President and the Supreme Court can tell people how to keep healthy, but can never do anything about the tobacco companies that are making them sick. No wonder the President's initials are B.O, because everything thing he does (including murdering Osama bin Ladin so he couldn't imp late the CIA in 911) really stinks.
05:19 AM on 07/04/2012
So....huh? Killing bin Laden was bad? Are you saying Obama is part of a conspiracy that began in 2001 so he can protect Bush?
The AHA won't force you to ever go to the doctor or even eat your veggies. It just requires that you be responsible for your healthcare spending instead of ending up in the emergency room, which everyone else who is responsible is charged for when we go to the doctor.
11:15 PM on 07/05/2012
OK, so what happens when you cut your finger off while sawing down a tree or break your foot, leg and arm while riding your 4 wheeler. DON'T USE THE EMERGENCY ROOM! What do you do thursdaychild. If you're like my painter, you just lie in the bed and bleed because you can't afford medical attention and without medical attention, it will certainly affect your ability to work in the future. Who's the freeloader? You because we know that you will use the emergency room without insurance and we, those with insurance, will pay for you with our rising insurance premiums and hospital cost to cover freeloaders! Think about it citizen.
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08:04 PM on 07/03/2012
I say we encourage the Obamacare hater to consider Liberia. I think it's more ideal for the crew we're talking about.