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The Fallout From Gregg Williams' NFL Bounties Program

Posted: 03/ 4/2012 2:25 pm

NFL fans and commentators are up in arms amid revelations that acclaimed coach and coordinator Gregg Williams encouraged his defenders to injure opponents, for which they'd collect bounties. Many were quick to point out that both Kurt Warner's and Brett Favre's careers were seemingly ended by hits they sustained several years ago at the hands of New Orleans Saints' players, during Williams' time running the defense. Williams now faces punishment from the league, to be announced later this month. Now the league is reportedly looking into Williams' time with the Washington Redskins, too.

Since the reports came out, several players have said that these types of bounties take place "all around the league." The league is rightfully taking the situation seriously. There could even be legal issues at hand. "There truly was a code among players once upon a time, concerning the balance between playing hard for yourself and your team, and respecting the careers of your fellow competitors," says David Steele at the Sporting News. "It wasn't always followed. Today, it continues to be proven, it doesn't exist at all." Here's a rundown of what some commentators are saying about the scandal, and what we should expect:

Dan Bickley, Tucson Citizen:

"This is more than cheating. This is inhuman. This mocks the brotherhood and solidarity of the players' union. This is deliberately trying to injure a fellow competitor for financial reward, at a time when many former players are blaming and suing the NFL for ignoring safety risks."

Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press:

"Goodell surely didn't want this scandal, not after the NFL came off a triumphant season with labor peace and television contracts wrapped up for much of the next decade. He would have much preferred to bask in the glow of a thrilling Super Bowl and watch proudly as NFL draft talk dominated the offseason. But it has given him the perfect opportunity to take a stand, a great chance to show he's serious about protecting players. He can be tough, and he should be tough. Send the message that hitting to hurt no longer pays."

Tim Kawakami, San Jose Mercury News:

"Great defenses are angry defenses. I've been around too many good defensive players to think otherwise. Some of the best defensive coaches I've covered encouraged a sharks-in-the-water mentality. They wanted their guys to instill fear in the opponent, sense it, then obliterate everything in their path. What the Saints did went way over the line, no doubt. It should and will be punished. But nobody can say that this is a totally isolated situation. It's part of the game, an extreme part, pushed too far, in a sport where crossing the line is often rewarded, however you do it."

Steve Coll, The New Yorker:

"The NFL lacks the credibility and the motivation to fully expose whatever dark ecosystem we have just stumbled upon. The investigation summary released on Friday afternoon -- a time zone well known as the media graveyard for press releases, one favored by strategic communications consultants of a certain unembarrassed type -- is the equivalent of the general counsel at Goldman Sachs or Bank of America disclosing a few problems on the bank's mortgage trading floor. A self-policing investigator has an interest in cleaning up the mess in a way that minimizes liability."

Gwen Knapp, San Francisco Chronicle:

"The NFL takes all of that seriously, but the investigation into the Saints was certainly spurred more by the league's concern for safety, which has been dramatically enhanced by former players heading to court to challenge what the league knew about head injuries and kept to itself...The punishment will have to be severe, but it won't make the league any safer. Ultimately, almost everyone in the NFL earns his keep by risking his own health and threatening that of others."

 

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NFL fans and commentators are up in arms amid revelations that acclaimed coach and coordinator Gregg Williams encouraged his defenders to injure opponents, for which they'd collect bounties. Many were...
NFL fans and commentators are up in arms amid revelations that acclaimed coach and coordinator Gregg Williams encouraged his defenders to injure opponents, for which they'd collect bounties. Many were...
 
 
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BlueZoo
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12:04 PM on 03/07/2012
Why all the outrage now? This has been going on sub rosa for decades in the NFL! (It also occurs in MLB, the NHL and the NBA) We all know that every single one of these sports columnists have known about this for decades but now they profess shock and awe? Please!
09:58 AM on 03/05/2012
Is anyone talking about criminal charges?

Here we have a situation in which someone is giving someone else money to injure a third party deliberately.

The consent one gives when playing a sport is actually quite limited, from what I've heard and read. My layman's understanding is that violating a safety rule of a sport and causing injury is prosecutable, so for instance in basketball, if you commit a loose ball foul by rebounding over an opponent's back and he gets hurt when you land on him, that's not prosecutable because the rule exists as a part of the game's structure, not for safety, but on the other hand if you have the ball, extend your elbows out and pivot so that your elbow hits someone and injures him, in that case you can be prosecuted, because that rule is about safety.
08:29 AM on 03/05/2012
Here's a question. Should the Saints forfeit their wins since 2009,including Super Bowl XLIV?
11:06 PM on 03/04/2012
There's another aspect to this scandal. If you were a player who was severely injured by a Saints player during those years, you might have a lawsuit. instead of a play that just happened to have injured a player as part of the game, you now have a situation where you can prove there was intent to injure.
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mountainweb
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06:29 AM on 03/05/2012
Sadly, the best thing that could happen would be for some players to sue over this issue. Make it is so painful from a financial standpoint that player tackle instead of hitting....
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JohnnyLawson
your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying
04:37 PM on 03/05/2012
I was thinking the same thing..I wonder if Warner or Favre should sue..
03:54 PM on 03/04/2012
I've watched the NFL for 50 years and have seen the intention of defensive play go from 'tackling' to 'hitting'. The difference is just this; one is meant to stop the other player and end the play, the other to hurt, intimidate and knock him out of the game. Probably a normal transition for our "extreme" culture and times but one that I have not liked watching.

Everyone complains about the lack of good tackling in the NFL but few put together that it's because they are busy trying to lay down that game ending lick.