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Definitive Questions to be Argued at 9/11 Hearings at Gitmo This Week

Posted: 08/20/2012 1:11 pm

Starting tomorrow, almost 11 years after the terrorist attacks of September 11, the U.S. military commissions at Guantanamo Bay will hear the first set of arguments in preparation for the trial of the five alleged plotters.

Lawyers will argue over whether the U.S. constitution applies at Guantanamo Bay, as it would in a regular U.S. court; whether everything that Khalid Sheik Mohammed and his four alleged co-conspirators say is "presumptively classified" -- especially any statements about their capture and treatment by the U.S. government in CIA custody; and whether the government can prevent defense lawyers from sharing even unclassified information with the media.

In the upcoming hearings, scheduled over the next eight days, the government is expected to argue that the judge shouldn't decide whether or not the U.S. Constitution applies at Gitmo; that the government can keep secret every statement from the five defendants about their experiences being subjected to torture and so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" by the CIA; and that the government should be allowed to keep the public from seeing information that's not classified but, the government says, would nonetheless be "detrimental to the public interest" if released.

In addition to the lawyers representing the five men on trial, the ACLU and 14 news organizations will argue to end the presumptive classification of the men's statements, and other efforts to seal government records and close portions of the commission hearings, as a denial of the public's First Amendment rights.

At stake is whether the United States government can whisk terrorism suspects to offshore prisons to avoid giving them basic rights; whether Americans will ever be allowed to know what their government did to suspects arrested after 9/11 and interrogated for years in secret CIA prisons overseas; and whether these five men now, 11 years later, will finally be given a fair trial.

It's no exaggeration to say that this will be a defining moment for the United States.

I'll be blogging about the case here.

 

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End3r
I think I am, therefore, I am. I think.
06:31 PM on 09/27/2012
Tower 7 fell 12 min after it was reported. The official explanation for Tower 7 is there is no explanation, and it is not included in the 9/11 Commission Report.

There have been only three sky rise towers to collapse, at near free fall speeds, caused by fires in history: WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 (all on September 11, 2001)

/I see what you did there ;-0
11:28 PM on 08/23/2012
The US government perpetrated the 9/11 attacks, and the bogus War on Terrorism is actually a US/NATO/Israeli war of aggression for global domination.
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intellifran
insert clever line here...
07:07 AM on 08/22/2012
No it does not. Those people were seized during war and are subject to the Geneva Conventions. Per Geneva Conventions they are unlawful combantants and should be treated as such. Anyone caught inside the US is subject to the US Constitution (or should be, we need to overturn that latest presidential decree).
11:55 PM on 08/21/2012
" Does The Constitution Apply At Gitmo? "

The Constitution does not even apply [ is inoperative ] here in the USA. A former senior presidential aid, with an office in the white house, said as much on TV.
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laner717
The Buck stops here
11:26 PM on 08/21/2012
It should, I'm tired of people constantly assuming that all Arabs are terrorists. People are generally good hearted and those who aren't should be held, but we can't tell whether or not they are based on the crap that we've heard
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FilthyHarry
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11:09 PM on 08/21/2012
Not sure how it matters, if it doesn't apply to the inmates, protecting them from abuses, it certainly applies to American citizens there preventing them from committing abuses.

Besides, if our laws don't apply to foreigners, then what authority are we relying on to hold them?

This highly selective use of the constitution and our legal system just demonstrates they have no inherent value as ideals anymore (if they ever did) and are just tools the powerful can use.
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mabinog
My micro-bio is a desolate wasteland
11:06 PM on 08/21/2012
The Constitution has never in the history of our country stopped our governments, state, local or federal, or the American public from doing things that were immoral and heinous...................whether they were "Constitutional" or not was and is beside the point.

Changes to the Constitution and constitutional law have been made insure our freedom and yet we find the extremists in our country demanding that we give those up for their ideological deluded version of what they think the Constitution was.
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Chris Herz
09:51 PM on 08/21/2012
Since the Constitution no longer means anything at home, why should it at Guantanamo?
04:44 AM on 08/22/2012
Well said.
09:42 PM on 08/21/2012
Lets give them Islamic justice to show we really care about them. If they beheaded someone, then behead them. Lets get into whipping and stoning until they are dead. How about cutting off hands and legs? We will apply instant Islamic justice and the Muslims will love us.
11:33 PM on 08/23/2012
Let's apply Islamic justice to the US troops who have been murdering, raping, and torturing many thousands innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan for the past decade.
01:59 AM on 08/24/2012
Actually the Iraqis and Afghanis are doing that, why not ask them?
02:31 PM on 08/24/2012
Apply it to the Muslims who do it to their own people daily.
09:01 PM on 08/21/2012
In 1979 a plane was highjacked and landed in Berlin. The highjackers were tried in an American court in Berlin. It was the position of the State Department that the Constitution did not apply to the highjackers. Judge Stern, the presiding judge, was extremely angry that the issue even arose. He subsequently wrote a book called Judgment in Berlin (later made into a movie). Judge Stern, where are you? This country needs you.
08:51 PM on 08/21/2012
NO!
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D-V-H
I am a Damn Liberal
08:27 PM on 08/21/2012
We have a chance right now to expiate our country's sins.

Whether we actually choose to do so remains to be seen.
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MarcEdward
likes all cats more than most people
07:02 PM on 08/21/2012
The constitution does not apply to people, it applies to the power of government, our government, the US Government. Who we are doing it to doesn't enter into it.
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PoorRichardsHeartache
when is obstruction insurrection?
06:53 PM on 08/21/2012
there is the strict legal statute issue, and there is the moral imperative issue. People either have inalienable rights or they don't. Isnt that the point of human rights sanctions and imperatives? Why are we so afraid to trust our own systems and values.
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ralphnovy
06:03 PM on 08/21/2012
Here, Constitutional Law Professor Obama, is your opportunity, at long last, to show some balls and decency.

Intervene. Order a halt to these military tribunals (it's clearly within your discretion as commander-in-chief) and say that "Gitmo" will be closed down within 60 days.

Your political advisors will undoubtedly say you dassn't touch this stuff before the November elections.

But they're exactly wrong.

Just as wrong as Summers and Geithner were about the stimulus.

Just as wrong as Holder's been about "Fast and Furious" and the medical-marijuana dispensaries.

Just as wrong as Panetta's been about not reining-in the "security" agencies.

I suggest to you, sir, that principled positions are not the enemies of political success; to the contrary, they're the very good friends.