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Budget Talks: Who Speaks for the American People?

Posted: 05/12/11 10:31 AM ET

When we hear about the deficits we hear a lot of scare stories, which most "serious" media just echo and amplify. The prevailing "serious" narrative we hear is that we must cut entitlements -- any "serious" budget proposal cuts Medicare and Social Security. Even though they just extended tax cuts for the rich the deficits are the worst problem in the world, ever, so we are supposed to be really scared and give in. Seriously.

Polls show that the public wants taxes raised on the rich, cuts in military spending and more & bettter-paying jobs. The public isn't stupid, because it turns out that these are exactly the things that economists say will get us out of the deficits. But raising taxes isn't considered a "serious" deficit-cutting option. Neither is cutting military. And to top it off, in DC the idea of creating more and better-paying jobs is so unserious that it isn't even discussed.

Serious Commissions and Gangs Of Negotiators

The public recoils every time politicians get close to reaching their "serious" goal of cutting Social Security or Medicare, instead of raising taxes and cutting military. So the DC elite come up with ways to mask what they are doing : commissions, "triggers," "caps," "across-the-board cuts" all of which avoid actually spelling out that these will cut Social Security and Medicare without touching taxes or military. All the "serious" people favor this approach.

There are so many "serious" reporters and editors and politicians and deficit commissions and negotiators and even "gangs" consist of very "serious" people who come up with these "serious" recommendations.

Who Is At The Table?

These "serious" people who engaged in these "serious" negotiations have something in common. They are almost all very, very well paid, usually white, always DC or Wall Street or big-corporate insiders, always college-educated and comfortable people who work in offices. They do not reflect the diverse makup of the American population. Doing that wouldn't be "serious," but it would be 'small-d' democratic.

The fact is, the American People just are not reflected "at the table" in these budget negotiations. When you hear about these deficit commissions, discussions, etc. ask yourself: How many make less than $250K? How many are unemployed? How many work taking care of someone else? Who speaks for We, the People in these negotiations?

And ask yourself: What would these deficits talks, commissions, gangs consist of if they were representative of the interests of regular Americans?

What If a Deficit Commission Looked Like America?

If a deficit commission with 100 members had the diversity of the American population "at the table" it would look like this:

  • 19 people on the commission would receive some form of Social Security benefits, 12 of those as retirees. And on this deficit commission they get to talk when the ones making over $250K propose cutting Social Security.
  • 43 of the commission members would have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement. 27 of those less than $1,000.
  • 98 of the 100 members would make less than $250,000 a year.
  • 50 of the members would come from households in which the total income of all wage-earners is less than $52,029.
  • 13 wold have income below the poverty level.
  • 14 members would be receiving food stamps.
  • 16.6% of the commission members would be un- or underemployed, and would be wondering why they are on a deficit commission at all instead of a jobs commission.
  • The commission would include the right proportion of factory and construction workers, and people who work in a kitchen, and work waiting tables, and teaching, and nursing, and installing tires, and all the other things that people do except, apparently, those on DC elite commissions. (People who do hard, manual labor get an extra vote each on what the retirement age should be.)
  • 74 members would not have college degrees.
  • 20 would not have graduated high school.
  • 18 would speak a language other than English at home.

Have you seen any deficit commissions like that lately? No, seriously, have you?

What does the PUBLIC want?

A "serious" deficit commission in a democracy would come up with deficit solutions that reflect what the public wants. Here are some of the polling results compiled at The American Majority Project Polling:

Social Security & Medicare:


  • 53% support Collecting Social Security taxes on all the money a worker earns, rather than taxing only up to about $107,000 of annual income.
  • 57% oppose raising the retirement age from 66 to 67.
  • 64% oppose spending cuts to Social Security.
  • 82% oppose cutting Social Security benefits in order to reduce the debt.
  • 67% oppose cutting Social Security to make the program more solvent in the long term.

  • 66% support enacting Social Security taxes on wages about $106,800 (the Pay Roll Tax Cap) to make the program more solvent.
  • 64% oppose spending cuts to Medicare.


Lots more polling on Social Security at The American Majority Project Polling

Taxes:

  • 74% believe eliminating tax credits for the oil and gas industries to help reduce the budget deficit is mostly or totally acceptable.
  • 68% believe that phasing out the Bush tax cuts for families earning $250,000 per year is mostly or totally acceptable to help reduce the budget deficit.
  • 72% of one group of 512 participants favored raising taxes on people earning more than $1 million a year over cutting important programs once they received details on the impact of the budget cuts. That percentage had been 62% before receiving details of the cuts.
  • 53% believe it is totally or mostly unacceptable to reduce the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%.
  • etc...

Lots more polling on taxes at The American Majority Project Polling

Military Spending:


  • 67% support minor or major reductions in funds to national defense.
  • 66% support removing all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
  • 49% said to cut defense "even if it means eliminating programs that bring jobs to your state."

  • Pew Research Poll, March 8-14, 2011

    etc.

More polling on military spending at The American Majority Project Polling

Union Employees and Collective Bargaining Rights:


  • 81% support the rights of workers to unionize to negotiate with their employers.
  • 77% believe public employees who belong to a union and work for the state government, city government, or school districts should have the same right to bargain when it comes to their health care, pension and other benefits like those members of unions who work for private companies.

More polling on labor rights at The American Majority Project Polling

Job Creation and the Economy:


  • 56% believe creating jobs, rather than spending cuts is the more important priority for the federal government right now.
  • 56% agree that "it is time for government to take a larger and stronger roll in making the economy work for the average American."
  • 62% believe the government should focus on creating jobs, even if it means increasing the deficit in the short-term.

More polling on jobs and the economy at The American Majority Project Polling

This post originally appeared at Campaign for America's Future (CAF) at their Blog for OurFuture. I am a Fellow with CAF.

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When we hear about the deficits we hear a lot of scare stories, which most "serious" media just echo and amplify. The prevailing "serious" narrative we hear is that we must cut entitlements -- any "se...
When we hear about the deficits we hear a lot of scare stories, which most "serious" media just echo and amplify. The prevailing "serious" narrative we hear is that we must cut entitlements -- any "se...
 
 
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10:28 AM on 05/13/2011
They have started pushing many who do office work so hard that these people need to retire early, too. There is a mental stress in doing paperwork and it is worse now that they are pushing many so hard. Many, given the choice, would rather work physically hard than to do paperwork day after day.

They keep raising production quotas in the plants and in the business offices.

Many in the government leadership get to draw retirement benefits at 50 years of age.

They need to leave the early and late retirement age alone. Many give up 25% of their benefits to retire at 62. That saves Social Security money. Others work until 67 so they can draw the maximum. A few work until they are 70 in order to get the bonus benefits.

Most love to work. They only retire when they are fired or become too sick or too old.

The thing is we should have the FREEDOM to choose when to retire. It shouldn't be up to the guys with their lily white hands sitting in DC and on Wall Street.
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PATina
09:56 AM on 05/13/2011
The problem is... there are many people who believe that the only ones who should be at the table are those "serious" people... people who have college degrees (preferably Ivy league and more than one)... people who make more money than the average... captains of industry... etc.

I wish more housewives and or single mothers could (and would) get into politics. Of course, very few of us would actually vote for them.
10:47 AM on 05/13/2011
Robert Reich
Fmr. Secretary of Labor

Why Maine's Governor LePage Can't Erase History, and Why We Need a Fighter in the White House
Posted: 03/24/11

Frances Perkins was the first woman cabinet member in American history.

She and her boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, came to office at a time when average working people needed help -- and Perkins and Roosevelt were determined to give it to them. Together, they created Social Security, unemployment insurance, the right of workers to unionize, the minimum wage, and the forty-hour workweek. (The New Deal)

Big business and Wall Street thought Perkins and Roosevelt were not in keeping with pro-business goals. So they and their Republican puppets in Congress and in the states retaliated with a political assault on the New Deal.

Roosevelt did not flinch. In a speech in October 1936 he condemned "business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering."

Big business and Wall Street, he said, ...had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me -- and I welcome their hatred.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/why-maines-governor-lepag_b_840097.html
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El Guapo Numero Uno
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08:40 AM on 05/13/2011
Dear American Unwashed,

We will tell you what you need, and how you should be spending your money. We understand that you want good paying jobs and we know that you voted us in to deal with that problem. The issue with that is that now that we are elected, we do have jobs! They pay pretty darn good, and now we feel it is the time to squabble over various issues that have nothing to do with jobs.

Also, we would appriciate it if you would kindly turn your eye while we continue the tax breaks and cuts for those that so kindly donated to help our campaigns. We owe them for our new jobs, and have to take care of them. We all know they will spread some of their wealth around, they said they would.

In the end, we know better than you what is good for you. Listen to us and pay no attention to the unemployment stats and low wage job creation that is plauging our country. Keep your nose to the grind, and the financially endowed will provide your every need.

Thanks for your vote,

Washington Elite
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AndyI52
09:45 PM on 05/12/2011
The American people have not been represented by our elected officials for decades now, long before this commission. The special interest money controls most of what passes in congress now, I heard they they even write a lot of the laws and regulations that congress rubber-stamps. If the American people want to be represented then they had better wake up and demand real campaign finance reform. Till then money is going to rule this country. Kiss our democratic republic good bye and welcome to the rule by the wealthy few and corporations, America the plutocracy.
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verita vincera
Truth Defines Error
07:33 PM on 05/12/2011
What exactly do you consider rich? I make 55k salary for 10years now. My wife makes substantially more. Our Taxes were about $37,000 and about 17,000 in donations. Do the addition and it is easily seen that I brought home about $1,000 for a years work.
So when you say rich, we have to know what you mean and compared to what? Truth = reality and stats sited are normally not the working man's or business' reality.
Most of the hype on this site deals with moral and immoral issues. Reality is we like moral people that are not greedy, racist or polarize the issues.

Living in a society of voyeurs and greedily making money as does this site and 99.9% of television in exploitation, it is difficult for many to know reality or truth.
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Dave Johnson
07:56 PM on 05/12/2011
Under the proposed tax increased people making $250K a year after all deductions would see NO tax increase.

People making $250,001 would pay an extra 4 cents.

But schools, roads, police, etc. would be funded.

You have a problem with that?
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propitiousmoment
the journey is the destination....
09:52 PM on 05/12/2011
You don't say how much your total income was. You paid a part of the $37k in taxes proportionate to the percentage your income is of the total, it didn't come out of your salary alone. And donations are voluntary, you don't have to give that money away.
nofoolsteaforme
I do just fine thank you. I don't get paid to post
06:13 PM on 05/12/2011
I would like to see your article posted everywhere.
We the people are definately under represented. Here's the kick, It is our own darn fault. Many Democrats, and many independents don't vote in mid term elections. I have heard of some not voting because they didn't think our own Democrats didn't try hard enough to overcome the Republican filibuster machine. Yes, when We the people don't stand up to be counted, well we don't count.
10:07 AM on 05/13/2011
They didn't vote because the demcrats were acting like republicans. Obama was carrying their water.
10:51 AM on 05/13/2011
Too many of us thought the Democrats would protect us. But then we found that many of them were working with the Republicans against us. We got rid of some of them last year like Blanch Lincoln. We need to get rid of Lieberman and some of the corporate democrats in 2012.
nofoolsteaforme
I do just fine thank you. I don't get paid to post
02:11 AM on 05/14/2011
We agree quite a bit. Getting better Democrats needs to happen early on in the canidate selection process such as primaries or however your state does this. When it comes to the final vote even the most right Democrat is going to vote with the Democrats more of time than a lock step Republican. There are some practicalities to consider. Including constituancys like where Blanch Lincoln is from. She does have to appeal to the people that vote in her State. As much as I hate some of what she did She was still better that a Republican.
01:15 PM on 05/12/2011
Therefore when you see and hear republicans saying, 'they are doing what the American People want' consider who they think of as the 'American People' IE: Millionaires, Billionaires, Corporations, Multinational Corporations, Media Moguls and Individuals who give them campaign contributions and are 'buying favors'!! This is Corruption, America! We deserve better and We must demand better!
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01:08 PM on 05/12/2011
Good article, Mr. Johnson.

As Joseph Stiglitz stated, those in the bottom 99% of the economy, aka serfs, have no voice...

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105
Of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%

"...Economists long ago tried to justify the vast inequalities that seemed so troubling in the mid-19th century—inequalities that are but a pale shadow of what we are seeing in America today. The justification they came up with was called “marginal-productivity theory.” In a nutshell, this theory associated higher incomes with higher productivity and a greater contribution to society. It is a theory that has always been cherished by the rich. Evidence for its validity, however, remains thin. The corporate executives who helped bring on the recession of the past three years—whose contribution to our society, and to their own companies, has been massively negative—went on to receive large bonuses. In some cases, companies were so embarrassed about calling such rewards “performance bonuses” that they felt compelled to change the name to “retention bonuses” (even if the only thing being retained was bad performance). Those who have contributed great positive innovations to our society, from the pioneers of genetic understanding to the pioneers of the Information Age, have received a pittance compared with those responsible for the financial innovations that brought our global economy to the brink of ruin..."
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Awake-and-Sing
named after a great play written by Clifford Odets
12:33 PM on 05/12/2011
Wow. Wonderful article.
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Oldchef
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12:27 PM on 05/12/2011
Dave, you pose a very serious question and the answer so far is 1, Bernie Sanders, and so far, he is largely ignored by those bought and paid for by big business.