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Why We Have a Deficit

Posted: 05/14/2012 6:51 pm

Deficit theater is coming to D.C. tomorrow, with a well-funded "fiscal summit." The plot summary is that we have Deficit Trouble -- Right Here In River City! so to fix it we need to cut Social Security and Medicare and the things democracy does for We, the People -- while cutting taxes on the rich and their corporations to make us more "business-friendly." (This musical is sometimes billed as "Simpson-Bowles" but it's the same old song.)

All of this deficit hysteria today -- when just over ten years ago we had such a large budget surplus that we were projected to pay off our entire debt in ... ten years! That's right, Ten Years Ago We Were Paying Off The Nation's Debt. But Then We Elected Obama.,

Just ten years ago this country was running huge surpluses and paying off its debt. But then we elected Obama and all hell broke loose. Oh, wait...

Between the time ten years ago when we had big surpluses and were paying off the debt and now when we are told the "Obama spending and deficit" mean we have to cut back on the things We, the People do for each other, something happened. Something changed. The things that happened, the things that changed, are being ignored in the current D.C. discussion about what we need to do to fix things.

Something happened. We had a surplus, and it was replaced by massive deficits. The last Bush budget year had a deficit of $1.4 trillion!

Why We Have a Deficit

What happened under Bush? We cut taxes on the rich and doubled military spending. (And started wars.) And don't forget collapsing the economy, forcing people onto unemployment and food stamps. That is why we have a deficit. We have a deficit because of tax cuts for the rich, huge military budget increases and the consequences of deregulating corporations.

Here are some questions for tomorrow's deficit theater:

  • How large was the country's yearly budget deficit and total debt in the "Eisenhower/Truman" decades when the top tax rate was 90 percent?

  • Today we have an "infrastructure deficit" -- the amount needed to repair our country's roads, bridges, sewers, etc. -- of somewhere upwards of $1.6 trillion. Was our infrastructure kept in good repair before the top tax rates were cut?

  • Concentration of wealth is long recognized as a threat to democracy, and now we are seeing a low-wage, everything-to-the-top economy with the greatest ever concentration of wealth going to a few at the top. Was the problem of wealth concentration increasing or decreasing before the top tax rates were cut?

  • When top rates were high people couldn't take home vast fortunes in a single year. When it took several years to make a fortune did corporations depend on long-term or short-term thinking? Did the executives of corporations care if the infrastructure and communities their companies depended on were in good shape? Did large corporations fleece customers and exploit employees for quarterly returns as they do now?

How We Fix the Deficit

How do we fix this? Doesn't it make sense to look at what caused the deficits and fix that? There actually are budget plans that get rid of the deficit without cutting back on the things democracy does for We, the People. Here is a post about one of those budget plans: The People's Budget Balances The Budget -- Why Isn't It Part Of These "Deficit" Talks? Here is a post about another budget plan that fixes the deficit without cutting the thing democracy does for us, Every Progressive Should Know About The "Budget For All"

So we know why we have a deficit, and we have realistic budget plans that undo the damage, maintain the things that democracy does for We, the People and invest in growing our economy. So why aren't these plans part of the big D.C. deficit discussion? Maybe progressive plans that cut the deficit are not part of the D.C. deficit discussion because cutting the deficit isn't really the point. This Deficit Story Can't Be Repeated Often Enough!,

So we went from big surplus to huge, huge deficits. Bush said it was "incredibly positive news" when we went back into deficit spending. He said it was good news because it continued the plan to use debt to force the government to cut back. He said that. It was the plan. (Don't take my word for it, click the links.)

The Reagan people said it too, back when they started the massive deficit spending. It was the plan: force the country into massive debt, "starve the beast," and use that to force the government out of business, or at least to be "small enough to drown in a bathtub." They forced the tax cuts and Reagan said this was "cutting the government's allowance." The point was to use revenue cutbacks to force government to shrink, to get out of the way of the 1 percent.

A Golden Oldie

From Dear Deficit Commission, It's Not Hard: (Click through to see bigger charts)

Dear Deficit Commission,

It's not hard to figure out why we have a huge deficit. It's so easy I don't have to use words. Here are some pictures:

Clinton_Bush_Deficit

Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich. Bush cut them.

Now, about that huge national debt...

TopRates_vs_Debt_Chart

The second chart kind of explains itself. The third chart can help you find a place to get some money:

Defense-Budget

(Note: There is no more Soviet Union.)

In case that isn't clear enough, try this:

Defense Spending and Debt chart

Let me know if you still have any questions.

We had a budget surplus. We were paying off the debt. Then something changed. If you want to fix the deficits, change it back.

Don't fall for it. Deficits were the plan. Run up the borrowing, then come back with a scare campaign that stampedes people into accepting cuts in the things democracy does for We, the People. It was the plan.

If you happen to be in D.C. tomorrow: May 15: Stand Against Austerity:

May 15, 2012 at 1 p.m. (Program starts 1:30 p.m.)
In Front Of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation Fiscal Summit
1301 Constitution Avenue NW, Washington, D.C.

Here's one of those charts again, larger:

TopRates_vs_Debt_Chart


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10:40 AM on 05/19/2012
Wow, yet another person that agrees with Ron Paul. Except, of course, that they won't admit Paul said it first. Who'd have thunk that by simply OBEYING THE CONSTITUTION all our problems could be solved. Not to mention, cutting government back to its constitutionally authorized functions would mean a 30% raise for most of us. I can't understand people not voting themselves a 30% raise in exchange for "free stuff". It's like people can't figure out that "buy one get one free" is just a way to hide the true price of the item.

Oh yeah, but Paul is "out of the race". Still accumulating delegates, but "out of the race". Won Minnesota, but "out of the race". Nothing to worry about - he can't possibly catch Romney. He's just using those delegates to affect the platform. Still, just think - would it be worth a small contribution to get a huge tax break? Just think, you could be just like a big corporation, buying tax breaks...
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Keagan86
Breaking normal thought patterns
01:37 PM on 05/18/2012
Let's make this get passed! I am so upset that Congress won't even take a real concerted look at this ecnomic policy.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
04:42 PM on 05/15/2012
"We had a budget surplus. We were paying off the debt. Then something changed. If you want to fix the deficits, change it back."

The surplus was created primarily by the tech bubble. Create the exact same situation and you might have a chance to recreate it.
10:58 PM on 05/15/2012
The largest single factor in the deficit is the Bush tax cuts. Let them lapse and the deficit becomes manageable. Keep them in place and cut entitlements and watch things get very painful and weird.
08:37 PM on 05/26/2012
There is no doubt that the cuts hurt. It has gotten so far out of line now that just letting them lapse will not do it alone. No matter how much more tax you have or how much less you have, you still have to spend less than you take in in order to have a surplus. That is just common sense just like in a household.

In order to spend less there has to be a budget and there has not been one for the last three years. On that particular issue, it shows some don't care how much is spent. Without a budget to guide spending, there is no control of it. I don't care who is to blame for the defiicit or not having a budget, blame will not get it fixed.

The major problem is right from the top on down. There needs to a broom about twenty feet wide and make a clean sweet of the president, the house, and the senate.

Overall Obama has to take the blame regardless. He is the CEO of the U.S. and the buck stops there.

We all need to quit the bickering and get down to business and correct "AMERICA'S" problem.

We have to pick the right people all the way down the line, instead of just voting party. Many times the person in the other party is a better person for the job.

Let's all try to do a better job of picking our representatives.
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01:34 PM on 05/15/2012
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_history

As evidenced by THESE charts, the government has trended towards taking more and more money out of the economy over the past 50 plus years. As a trend, we were well below 20% of GDP in government revenues until WWII hit us.

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/debt_deficit_history

Notice on the first chart here, that we have NEVER paid down the debt in any appreciable fashion since WWII. The second chart clearly shows that as a percentage of GDP, debt has risen and fallen. But we have only increased our debt since WWII, not paid it off.

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/income_tax_history

Notice that revenues from the INCOME tax have not fluctuated significantly. There are certainly peaks and valleys, but despite trends it’s stayed pretty constant. Corporate tax can be explained by more public ownership of companies, and more people paying capital gains than companies paying taxes on profits.

Meaning, we did not go into debt because of any particular tax break. We have never paid off our debts in any appreciable fashion since WWII. NEVER! And every positive change in the debt to GDP ratio has been the result of the economy growing. That is the national equivalent of an individual going deeper and deeper into debt every year, always betting/assuming/planning that you will make more money next year. Not a good way to live.
ubrew12
that crazy uncle from Amarcord
03:32 PM on 05/15/2012
"We have never paid off our debts in any appreciable fashion since WWII. NEVER! And every positive change in the debt to GDP ratio has been the result of the economy growing." Debt-to-GDP is the more honest way of putting it, and your plot shows that after WWII we did pay down the debt. You complain that this was due to a growing economy, but doesn't that conflict with the Republican mantra that high taxes destroy the economy? After WWII, the maximum marginal income tax was over 90%, yet 1949-1969 are generally considered to be America's 'Golden Years'.

There's a Pollyanish fascination with the low taxes before 1930. All I can say is the 19th century was, for America, a time of great expansion onto Indian lands, of slavery, and eventually of Robber Baron's and the call for Anti-trust legislation. And, it created a bubble economy that crashed in 1929. It may seem to have been a wonderful time, but not to the folks who lived through it.
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07:05 AM on 05/16/2012
First off, I'm pretty sure I started my analysis at the end of WWII, not sure why you would drag the 20s/30s into the conversation as if it was my idea.

Second, debt to GDP is a measure of a countires ability to pay a debt back, its just as valid to look at the raw numbers. And we didn't pay it down appreciably. We just traded domestic debt (War bonds) for Foreign debt. It only looks like we were less in debt because we were richer. Either is a valid way to look at it.

Tthird, my point about axation is that our code is complicated. If people were actually paying 90% in the 1950s, then why, when the marginal rates dropped, did revenues not also declinie? Answer, because the code was changed to make it more or less revenue neutral. Hence, no single tax "cut", or even group of cuts, got us into the predicament we are in, revenues have been fairly consistent.

The post war "Golden years" were based on the fact that every other industrialized country had been destroyed, or were not able or interested in competing. Japan and Germany, physically destroyed. england and France, financially destroyed. Russia and China, Communist, not interested in competing economically. We were the only game in town, and it paid well.
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Joe Goforth
contempt for the status quo
12:26 PM on 05/15/2012
We have a deficit mostly because the military industrial complex promotes wars that we can't possibly afford along with needless bases around the world coupled with handouts to countries with money that we borrow. If we mind our own biz around the world we could balance the budget but that never comes up in serious discussions in congress does it?
Bufford P Tusser
Impeach this!
01:56 PM on 05/15/2012
No sir, it does not.

The hand that feeds you and all that.
hroark314
The handle says it all, doesn't it?
12:04 PM on 05/15/2012
"•How large was the country's yearly budget deficit and total debt in the "Eisenhower/Truman" decades when the top tax rate was 90 percent?"

Back when military spending was 2 to 3 times higher as a pct of GDP? I thought military spending was to blame for our deficits.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/defense_spending
01:00 PM on 05/15/2012
Back then, the economy hadn't been outsourced and the USA had a bigger manufacturing base with more investment within the USA itself.
hroark314
The handle says it all, doesn't it?
01:49 PM on 05/15/2012
Those comments are both non-sequiter and, to the extent they meand anything at all, false. While US manufacturing employment has fallen greatly over the years, the rise in productivity more than makes up for that. This federal reserve data only goes back thirty years, but you can see that - in constant dollar terms - industrial production has double over the last thirty years. Again, that's completely irrelevant to my point which is that military spending is fairly low right now (by historical levels). It's discretionary spending and entitlements that are strangling the country.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/Releases/g17/
01:03 PM on 05/15/2012
how big was the yearly budget deficit? You don't answer your question. I think people are happy to pay for defense when the money is there. When you decouple the top earners from the America train, the rest of us can't afford to do things for "each other", anymore. Including defend each other...
hroark314
The handle says it all, doesn't it?
01:41 PM on 05/15/2012
It wasn't my question - it was the author's (he said he would discuss it in a future post). Deficits were much lower back then. My point was that, while he makes a big brouhaha about increases in miitary spending, current levels of spending are fairly low - certainly compared to the Truman/Eisenhower years, so it's more than a little dishonest to attribute our current large deficits to the relatively small increase in military spending that occured during the last decade - especially since that level of spending will start to fall as our commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan end.
hroark314
The handle says it all, doesn't it?
12:01 PM on 05/15/2012
It's weird that Johnson posted so many charts, but he didn't post a chart of total government spending as a percent of GDP. Oh, maybe that's because it looks like what's posted below.
By the way, Bush did spend recklessly. Unfortunately, it appears Obama is doing his best to beat him on that front.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/recent_spending
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wmnorton
Moderate where moderate used to be
02:06 PM on 05/15/2012
Please note that according to your charts, Obama's gross spending and as a % of GDP has held the line to where Bush left it,So Obama just continues to play the hand that Bush left him he has not dramatically increased spending, all the increase that is shown is projections in future years not actual spending.
hroark314
The handle says it all, doesn't it?
02:58 PM on 05/15/2012
That's sort of true. Bush started the deluge in 2009 with TARP, though Obama certainly contributed with the stimulus. However, both President's claimed that the dramatic increase in 2009 was intended to be a temporary measure, but Obama has essentially made the 4 pct jump in federal spending as a pct of GDP his new baseline. That's not continuing on with the norm, that's continuing on with what Obama claims is the new norm.
 
I'm more than willing to blame Bush for his part in our horrible crisis - but I'm not willing to blame his tax cuts, which were reasonable, when it was his spending and Obama's spending that have caused the problem.
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David Durham
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12:00 PM on 05/15/2012
The absolute silence in the mainstream media regarding 'The People's Budget' is another example of how the myth of 'The Liberal Media' is just that; a myth.
Bufford P Tusser
Impeach this!
02:02 PM on 05/15/2012
my favorite fairytale
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11:51 AM on 05/15/2012
From my limited understanding of economics ...econ 201 and 202 ... I would say the easiest way to combat a deficit would be for full employment. People working and paying taxes would erase the deficit fairly quickly. With more people working, the average tax burden is lessened too. So long as there are any serious war footing we might have to take the deficit as we know it would be history within, say 10 years at the most.

So the first step would be the employment outlook and then look at savings that can be weened from government programs that are no longer necessary as well as other cost saving measures to eek out funds that could be better spent for a greater return. By jobs is the Trojan Horse to deficit reduction that should be the easiest to accomplish with the most revenues flowing from it.
wsdave
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11:20 AM on 05/15/2012
"We had a budget surplus. We were paying off the debt. Then something changed. If you want to fix the deficits, change it back."

Give us another tech boom and give it to us NOW.

Everything else in the article is too simplistic to be taken seriously.
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Estreet1964
Gimmie the beat boys and free my soul....
10:58 AM on 05/15/2012
Stand by for the wails of "we need to cut taxes more to get more money to the 'job creators'."

This is of course false. Tax rates on the wealthy are at historic lows. By their reasoning (HA!) we should be swimming in jobs right now.

Don't fall for it America.
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Tejascc
So Blue in a Red State
10:56 AM on 05/15/2012
Many of the posters on this article seem to think that lowering taxes was the main cause of the huge deficits. Maybe so, maybe not. When Bush offered the first round of tax breaks the country could afford it. It was Bush's way of giving back some of that surplus created by the Clinton administration. It was meant to be a good thing. However, a certain chain of events arose after the tax breaks, the 9/11 attacks was the first link in that chain.

When the twin towers/pentagon attacks occured, everyone wanted retaliation. All demanded we strike the culprit and strike with vengance. We did and this was a good thing. However, this is where things start downhill. An unfunded war was started and taxes remained at a 50 year low. Then came the Iraq debacle. Now we have two unfunded wars and taxes stay at a 50 year low. In Bush's second term the tax cuts were extended, two unfunded wars still raging and the administration decides to pass a multi-billion plan D drug program which was unfunded. Money going out, no money coming in.

We were well on the way to self destruction when of all things the economy crashed and burned. Unemployment skyrocketed and tax revenues dropped like a rock, two unfunded wars still raged, plan D is still in effect and taxes are still at an all time low.
11:24 AM on 05/15/2012
No. We couldn't afford it. We still had a lot of debt on the books. Then he started 2 wars and put them on a credit card. Did he raise taxes after going into Iraq? Nope,because if he did, and pushed for all Americans (especially the wealthy, who benefitted most from the tax cuts) would have stopped supporting the war. Bad for business. The author is dead on accurate.
Hambone1
When not just ANY bone will do
11:38 AM on 05/15/2012
So very true. How do we make every American understand this?
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Tejascc
So Blue in a Red State
11:52 AM on 05/15/2012
I think most people do or at least those that actually think for themselves but political ideology gets in the way of true free thinking much too often.
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JADJAD
10:41 AM on 05/15/2012
The deficit is Gods gift to conservatives and to the average middle class voter it doesn't make any differance who bears the greatest responsibility. They want a solution and they want one now. As a result of misinformation, a lack of financial knowledge and an impatience with long range solutions, Romney will most likely win the 2012 election. Once in, austerity will be all in fashion along with tax breaks and incentives for the very wealthy. The middle class, as a result of fear and its partner ignorance, will once again be sold trickle down economics and cut backs on programs that directly benefit them. If it all plays out according to the republican playbook, the cowardly and fear induced middle class is toast. What value did they bring to the economic table in the first place. Their merly an expense line on a financial statement.
12:32 PM on 05/15/2012
obama did nothing but make it worse, he is not the answer and will lose the election for not doing ANYTHING, so if you want blame somebody, blame obama for votes that went to romney because of his own incompetence
DanBest
My micro bio is empty
12:57 PM on 05/15/2012
When Obama took office, we were losing an average of a million jobs a month. Right now were actually creating jobs. Obama hasn't made it worse. Obama made it worse for your side and it's "blame the other guy" version of personal responsibility.
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Jody Dobis
07:46 PM on 05/15/2012
I'm not a happy democrat but to either not vote or vote for Romney would be counter productive to my future. On the other hand, if the Ryan budget, which Romney endorses, is any example of where the republicans wish to lead the middle class to, the middle class voter is not looking out for their own interest. It reminds me when the first casualty of the war on industry started to fall, the steel mills, Large swaths of the American public thought it would stop at the rust belt. Today, even high tech, research and development, legal and medical services, and a whole host of past industries and services once dominated by us, are disappearing. For all those that plan to vote for Romney, enjoy the crumbs off the table of the elites.
10:31 AM on 05/15/2012
Unfortunately this article is nothing more then a bunch of bull. Clinton's "surplus" as you call it really wasn't one. He borrowed money from social security to pay down the public debt causing intergovernmental debt. The national debt still rose every year. That's your first lie in the story. 2nd, yes Bush's deficit was 1.4 trillion his LAST year and the only reason for that was the 780 billion dollar stimulus. That got charged to his record yet was suppose to be a one time infusion into the economy & supposedly according to the government most of that money has been paid back. Without the TARP fund his deficit was 464 billion dollars. Now here is the kicker, Obama has been running over a trillion dollar deficit every year, Why? TARP was a one time infusion. So what is this corrupt administration now doing with all that extra money every year? Why didn't the democrats do any budget their 1st 2 years when they had total control over everything? Don't listen to what they say, just watch what they do. It's always a contradiction and against you. As for this reporter he is either on Obama's payroll or just plain dumb because his article is inaccurate and filled with lies. Seriously watch what they do.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:10 AM on 05/15/2012
When the total cost of US government activities exceeds the total amount of US taxes collected, this is defined as the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING DEFICIT.

The US government does not really borrow US dollars from US banks to pay for its expenses when US government expenses exceed US taxes.

The US congress periodically passes laws that authorize Federal Reserve Board chairman Ben Bernanke to buy some paper and then print a bunch of new interest bearing paper currency instruments (mostly US Treasury Bonds) in varying amounts with the promise of US government repaying these loans in US dollars at the future dates specified (when they become due) and sell them at public auctions.

The FED then auctions off these freshly printed US T-Bills, US Treasury Bonds, and/or other Securities at US Federal Reserve Bank public auctions (at discounts less than face value and/or present worth, that mathematically converts to "Higher Than the Interest Rates Stated on the Bond Face") to mostly foreign manufacturers, foreign banks and foreign individuals in China, India, Brazil, Pakistan, and other industrialized countries in return for the US dollars that these foreigners earned by making consumer goods for US citizens.

The US government deposits these US dollars from bond sales, plus US dollars collected by taxation, into banks that redeem the government checks written to pay for various US government activities with US dollars.