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Dave Winer

Posted: December 14, 2010 12:59 PM

Read Part 1 here.

I've been emailing with Brewster Kahle, founder of Archive.org, about web hosting. In the last go-round I tried to concisely state the problem.

1. If I want to start a blog or post a research paper, or denounce the government, or post a leaked document, I don't really have a choice but to use a hosting provider. Most people don't even do that, they just start a Facebook page. I've always believed these companies would bend under pressure from the government, even in the US. Now that's not a theory, it's happened.

2. I started writing DaveNet in 1994, that's sixteen years worth of writing. A month or two after I die, the only way to get to that stuff will be through archive.org. That's not good enough. I want scripting.com to survive me. I have plenty of money to pay for it. But there's no one to give it to that I trust. No one is set up to do that business.

3. I am responsible for the web presence of two relatives who have passed on. My father and my uncle were both bloggers (in their own way). My father was a photographer. I am holding sites for them that they were working on.

4. And of course that's just me. I have a Comp Sci degree, and 30-plus years programming experience, and I have the time and the money. If I don't have this problem solved -- clearly almost no one does.

5. Jeff and I went to see the Library of Congress this fall. They're totally under-prepared for this, plus they had to shut down the WikiLeaks stuff because they're part of the US govt.

So now we know what we need. Now is the time when people's minds are open about this. We can move at double or triple speed. It pays to focus here now.


This post originally appeared at Scripting News.

 
 
 
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04:25 PM on 12/14/2010
The correct way to do it is something BitTorrent like with error correcting codes, combined with each BitTorrent client running a web server for its content. That said, I think Microsoft Research posted something about peer to peer distribution with ECC a while back, so it may be patented (bleh). Assuming that's true, BitTorrent + built in web server would be enough.
01:53 PM on 12/14/2010
As I understand things, if I have an account with www.archive.org, I can upload my works to their site, knowing that my Internet address will forever be available. Further, as I understand things, archive.org is mirrored by the Great Library of Alexandria, and my works will forever be available through them.

Today, I maintain a site through free hosting by www.ibiblio.org, sponsored by the University of North Carolina. Not everyone can qualify for free hosting at ibiblio.org.

If I understand Winer's proposal, there should be an option for everyone to receive hosting of their web site, whether free or with some nominal cost, that will ensure that each site hosted will continue without interruption, forever.

So, why not coordinate such a scheme by simply expanding the options that are already available? Why not contribute to those aspects of web site hosting that are now operating, and institute an alliance, if-you-will, that expands what is already available?

I suspect that archive.org and ibiblio.org and the Great Library of Alexandria are positioned to take donations that might otherwise go to yet another hosting organization and expand their services. Maybe I don't understand what the author is proposing?