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David Doody

David Doody

Posted: October 1, 2008 08:09 AM

Obama's Debate Tactics Reveal He Tries To Grapple With An Issue


"You could not argue in a vacuum, as if only your opinion matters. It would be irresponsible to try only to prevail in such a case. Rather, you would want to recognize what others think and try to draw people together." -from The Informed Argument by Robert K. Miller and Robert P. Yagelski

Much has been made of Barack Obama's willingness to state that John McCain was right about some issues brought up in the first presidential debate. While, in direct opposition to what he has been claiming - - that Americans want to stop yelling at each other - - John McCain refused to participate in an actual discussion with Obama, or - -and again, much has been made of this - -to even look at him. Instead, McCain chose condescension as his main tool of attack, claiming repeatedly that Senator Obama just does not get it, that he is naive about the issues this country faces.

In The Informed Argument, authors Robert K. Miller and Robert P. Yagelski examine the workings of a well-constructed argument and the importance of argumentation in our society. Early in the book, they define an argument by what it is not:

"In the first place, a quarrel is not an argument. Typically, when we use the term argument in casual conversation, we mean a quarrel or a disagreement....Quarrels rarely involve any genuine effort to engage in a dialogue for the sake of understanding an issue, and very often quarrels have nothing to do with trying to resolve a conflict....[T]o engage in genuine argument requires an effort to address the issue at hand in a substantive way, not just to criticize or oppose another's position."

What John McCain was doing on Friday night was quarreling with Barack Obama. This is indeed what McCain needs to do in order to partake in a discussion with someone with opposing views: He needs to vilify is opponent in order to create a sense of me against him, a sense that the two sides are at war on issues, and his is the "right" side to be on in that war.

This is not what Obama does, (or did last Friday night). People have called Obama a mighty rhetorician, both in praise and in condemnation. The latter argues that he is a lemon with a nice paint job; little substance lies beneath the shiny exterior, and his oratorical skills are all he brings to the table. Record aside, to dismiss Obama's skills in argument as nothing more than pretty words is to do a disservice to one of our most essential tools in resolving conflicts, furthering our society, and advancing ourselves - - a tool passed down from Aristotle to Thomas Jefferson to Marin Luther King, Jr.

Only in true discussion of the most important matters that we can come to a situation where all the parties involved are happy with the outcome, where everyone "wins." Only when we participate in "argumentation as an intellectual effort that is intended to solve a problem by drawing people together," rather than in "other kinds of discourse in which [we] seek to win or persuade without concern for the truth of [our] claims or positions" can we move towards a greater good for us all.

In order to do this, Mr. Miller and Mr. Yagelski state, we must make concessions:

"Often, especially when we are addressing complex and controversial issues...we can find ourselves believing that our position is right and those who believe otherwise are simply ignorant or harbor dubious motives. But serious controversies almost always continue because each side of the issue has valid concerns that cannot be dismissed. Identifying these concerns enables you to understand the issue better and to construct an argument that might be not only more convincing but also more useful. This might mean conceding a point or two to those who oppose your position. If you have no rebuttal to a particular point and recognize that your opponents' case has some merit, be honest and generous enough to say so. Making such a concession should not be considered simply a strategic move on your part. Rather, it signals your willingness to take your audience seriously, even when they disagree with you, and it reflects your genuine interest in addressing the problem at hand effectively and ethically. In this way you might bridge the gap between you and members of your audience who oppose your position, making it easier to reach a more substantial agreement. Insisting in a belligerent way that your opponents are completely wrong will hardly convince them to take you seriously. Life is seldom so simple that one side is unequivocally right and the other wrong."

In conceding that John McCain was indeed correct on some issues in the first presidential debate, Barack Obama was not showing a weakness or an incapability to lead. Rather he was being "honest and generous enough to say so" and showing his willingness to take the American people seriously and address the issues we are all facing effectively and ethically. In contrast, John McCain's unwillingness to participate in even the most basic levels of civility necessary to argue over such important matters showed his belligerence that evokes an inability to take him seriously. By not extending the same respect to Barack Obama as Obama extended him, John McCain also chose not to extend that respect to the citizens of the country he wishes to lead.

 
 
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XME
Life is hard. After all, it kills you.
05:56 AM on 10/02/2008
Nice article.

"By not extending the same respect to Barack Obama as Obama extended him, John McCain also chose not to extend that respect to the citizens of the country he wishes to lead."

Very true, because by treating Obama with such disdain, McCain by extention was treating anyone in this country who might have agreed with Obama's points with the same disdain. Clearly that came across considering the huge number of people that mentioned McCain's behavior, and particularly that most voters (unlike pundits who rated it on points) believe Obama won the debate and thought more highly of him after the debate. You can be sure that a lot of this had to do with how Obama and McCain behaved rather than on what their views were on issues.

"Life is seldom so simple that one side is unequivocally right and the other wrong."

Again very true, and one of the things that very much concerns me about McCain is that he seems to see things in VERY black and white terms, between completely right and completely unworthy of even being taken seriously or listened to. Certainly reminds ME of Bush and Cheney!
04:53 PM on 10/01/2008
Thanks for this article, David! I have been saying this was a battle of wits versus spit wads and that Obama represents a higher consciousness about the elegance of learning and discourse that has been lost to most of us. Excellent article - I'll send it around!
10:11 AM on 10/01/2008
Along the same line - why bother calling these "debates"? They hardly meet the criteria of even high school debates. They seem more like stump speeches.
02:34 AM on 10/01/2008
Well Done David!

I've been waiting for someone to write what you've written!

Off the bus and right on target!

Thank you!!!
09:25 AM on 10/01/2008
Well thanks, Allen. Very nice of you to say.
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Danigirl65
Obama 2012 - the alternative? Canada
12:46 AM on 10/01/2008
In order to successfully reach across the aisle, you must be able to admit that, at times, your opponent is right. I know John McCain used to have that ability but I've not seen it in this election process. Barack has never been afraid to agree with his opponent nor admit that his opponent was right on an issue. This shows a greater strength.

I want my President to be able to admit when he is wrong and adjust his stances based on the information provided to him. Stubbornness only breeds stupidity.
10:13 PM on 10/01/2008
My eyes are wide open. Mccain is not a maverick like he brags about ,but has from all I've read can't follow the rules. He wants what he wants when he wants it, never grew up even with all he's been through. Mr Obama has really earned my vote.The two men are totally different. One is a thinker and one a stinker.
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metropixie
"Near normal" is close enough...
11:43 PM on 09/30/2008
It's nice to see someone bringing useful analysis rather than knee-jerk shout-outs to a substantial moment in politics and I agree with the verdict. It verbalizes my own impression of the event's outcome.
10:25 PM on 09/30/2008
What the pundits failed to mention is the theings that Sen. Obama said McCain wa right on were all things that McCain has filp-flopped on since he started to run for president or they are things that are against the republican's party platform and usual rhetoric. The things Sen. Obama agreed with are all things that Sen. Obama had articulated as positions well before McCain appropriated them.

Please just check the facts and time lines for when McCain changed his opinions.
09:54 PM on 09/30/2008
Great post! Even though the media jumped all over Obama for saying he agrees with McCain on a lot of things, I think it was clear to viewers that he was finding a common point before explaining their differences in every case. I think this played very well to undecided voters. Obama was showing he can find things in common with his opponent, whereas McCain went out of his way to say that Obama is so far to the left that he could never reach across the aisle to agree with him on anything. It plays well to McCain's base, but his base is already planning to vote for him.
09:14 AM on 10/01/2008
Thanks, obamadeus. I think you're absolutely right, that Obama's argumentation will and has played well with undecided voters. And you bring up a very important point: "finding a common point before explaining their difference in EVERY case." Obama was not simply ceding the points to McCain and leaving it at that. In each case he expanded on his own position, making it harder and harder for critics to claim he gives no specifics.
09:23 AM on 10/01/2008
Thanks, obamadeus. I think you're right that this has seemed to play very well with undecided voters. And you bring up a good point: "finding a common point before explaining their differences in EVERY case." Obama did not simply cede these points and leave it at that. In every case he gave clear examples as to his own thinking and policies, once again discrediting those who say he is not specific enough.
09:04 PM on 09/30/2008
This is a good post. Someone should produce a TV show where two contestants have an actual argument. We might learn something.
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11:48 PM on 09/30/2008
I think you have a great idea. Actually maybe it should be our politicians and we, the public, participating. We all might learn something and government might end up being more participatory and transparent.
12:25 AM on 10/01/2008
Spot on!