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Why We Need To Go Beyond The 'Sound Bite' For Health Information

Posted: 07/19/11 10:12 AM ET

Our society has incubated the evolution of the sound bite and the devolution of civility. This is a perilous pairing if ever there was one -- a pernicious influence on discourse and a constant threat to sense, which is, alas, now far from common. We don't even try to understand one another -- and so, of course, we don't. No understanding means no agreement, which in turns means no progress.

The immediate basis for this commentary is the roiling debate over responses to severe childhood obesity initiated by the Murtagh and Ludwig editorial in JAMA.

Dr. Ludwig, a friend and colleague, has received hate mail in response to what was, in fact, a very temperate and judicious position. We'll return to that shortly.

But first, let's talk about me. I, too, have received hate mail -- and been excoriated in various media -- for supporting Dr. Ludwig's position. The irony is: I don't support Dr. Ludwig's position, and that is just what my own take on the issue states!

I am one among a very, very few people to have direct personal experience with state intervention for severe childhood obesity, as I noted before. I was sent by Good Morning America to visit and interview a family whose daughter was taken away from them by the state of New Mexico for this very reason. I got to meet and know the then little girl, Annamarie, her parents, her extended family and her physicians.

I found the family to be loving and concerned, and the health professionals involved in Annamarie's care to be stumped by her inability to lose weight. She lost no weight in state hands, and was returned to her family by much-chagrined and embarrassed authorities. The family was both shamed and traumatized by the "intervention." This is a precautionary tale if ever there was one.

For those wanting to know, I collaborated with Annamarie's physicians, and we settled on a treatment regimen for her severe insulin resistance that slowed her weight gain. However, despite state-of-the-art medical care and her family's best efforts, she has since developed Type 2 diabetes. (She is of Pima Indian descent and has extreme genetic vulnerability to both weight gain and diabetes.)

So, I disagree with Dr. Ludwig's recommendation based in part on this personal experience, and my view that we don't yet have the evidence we need that the state necessarily knows how to help severely obese children whose care it might presume to take on. But even more fundamentally, I disagree with the Murtagh and Ludwig's position because I believe laws should follow norms -- not get too far ahead of them.

It is normal in our society to view the beating or starving (willful under-feeding) of a child as a form of abuse or neglect. It is not normal, however, to view overfeeding in that same light. Since by any reasonable definition 50 percent of children or more nationwide are overweight, and since repeated studies show that parents tend to be relatively oblivious to the obesity that develops on their watch, we must be prepared to declare half the parents in the country "mild abusers" if this is abuse. Clearly, we're not there yet. Whether or not we ever get there, or should be there, is not immediately germane.

My view is that we must first decide whether over-feeding, and the neglect or propagation of obesity in a child, is viewed by most of us as a form of new-age abuse. Once we agree it is, then the legal remedies already in place for abuse would pertain. But until it is, the suggestion of legal remedies will sound radical.

But the reality is, Dr. Ludwig's position was never radical in the first place! His recommendation was that the state consider intervening when and only when: (a) obesity is an imminent danger to the health and even life of a severely obese child; (b) the family has been offered every manner of assistance; and (c) the family has willfully ignored or rejected the assistance available. In other words, Dr. Ludwig and Ms. Murtagh were talking about -- and only talking about -- true abuse of a child.

Folks, it is not radical, not even bold and assuredly not new, to say that parents who are willfully killing their child should not be left alone by the authorities until the child is dead.

I invite all of my very-right-of-center-friends and the staunchest defenders of personal liberty to address this: do you feel that "personal liberty" encompasses the right of malicious or mentally unhinged parents to kill their children? I am presuming not. And if not, then -- miracle of miracles -- across the political spectrum, we have found something on which we can agree!

But from media reactions to Dr. Ludwig, and frankly to me, I got the impression that we could not possibly agree on anything. For the moment, let's leave alone the fact that Dr. Ludwig's position is cautious, specific and far from radical. Let's leave aside the hate mail and assignations levied at Dr. Ludwig.

I stated quite clearly -- as I have again here -- that while I respect Dr. Ludwig, I disagree with him on this issue. I don't think we are yet ready to go there. But in this dumbed-down, sound bite, blog-first-and-ask-questions-later world of ours, I have not only been accused of advocating for the state intervention I am advising against -- I have been accused of everything up to and including fascism.

The reality, of course, is that entire branches of my family tree were brutally cut off by fascists. So the charge would be bad enough if it were in response to what I actually said or believe. Since it is both vile, and entirely wrong -- responding to a position I have explicitly renounced -- I believe it is, in a word, stupid.

And that's where we find ourselves. Mired in sound bites, too caught up in diatribe to be capable of dialogue. Too steadfast in our defense of the extremes to bother looking for, let alone find, the sense that often resides somewhere in the middle.

I have come here neither to praise, nor bury, Dr. Ludwig's position -- nor my own. It is not immediately relevant that Dr. Ludwig is, in fact, a highly trained and caring physician who takes care of severely obese children, whose very lives are at times in imminent danger. It is not immediately relevant that he has seen first-hand instances of both life-threatening obesity in children and parental rejection of offered assistance. It is not immediately relevant that just as I can cite an instance where state intervention failed, he can cite an instance in which it clearly saved a child's life.

What is immediately relevant is only that none of that seems to matter -- because we never get past headlines. In fact, if you are still reading this then thank you! I believe that you are part of the solution already. Because whether you agree or disagree with me (or Dr. Ludwig) -- love us, hate us, or are agnostic -- at least you are listening.

I am here to renounce the sound bite. We are better than that. We can at least listen to one another before we decide to disagree. And when we disagree, we can recall that reasonable people, decent people, loving and thoughtful people -- can disagree. Insults never foster understanding, they just entrench the differences true dialogue might help us overcome.

Let's give civility a try. We might discover that we disagree far less than we thought. And when we do disagree, we might discover the opportunity to benefit from differing perspectives and devise solutions informed by them.

Let's try listening to one another. I suppose you might disagree with the suggestion -- but apparently, you're still here. So I thank you very much indeed for listening to me before deciding.

-fin

Dr. David L. Katz; www.davidkatzmd.com
www.turnthetidefoundation.org

Director, Yale University Prevention Research Center
Editor-in-Chief, Childhood Obesity

 

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01:50 PM on 07/31/2011
I'll bet that "state of the art" medical care also included a low-fat, high-carb, grain-heavy and meat-poor diet, didn't it, Dr. Katz?
10:35 PM on 07/20/2011
You are not alone---David-- catch this missive from Daily Mail UK. The article: Why do Brits are old at 59 when other Europeans start at 69? I did explain but complaints blocked it, followed that under no circumstances were I to communicate with DM again. No wonder they have no sense of humor left----
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William Anderson LMHC
Licensed Psychotherapist, Weight Control Expert
06:35 PM on 07/19/2011
I have learned that people posting comments here do it for different reasons. Many have purposes that are absolutely opposed to civil discourse and advancing healthy thinking and behavior. That's the nature of the new media. So, let's attend to those with good intention, and treat those with ill intent and content with a different attitude.
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08:22 AM on 07/20/2011
Agreed--except that I'm not sure that whether or not an intention is good is always immediately clear.
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William Anderson LMHC
Licensed Psychotherapist, Weight Control Expert
08:31 AM on 07/20/2011
Absolutely. Most people do not know why they do things. They just respond to impulses. The reasons behind their behavior and whether it is good or harmful is clear to few.
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10:32 AM on 07/20/2011
You post comments for the sole purpose of advertising your weight-control therapy program for money.
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William Anderson LMHC
Licensed Psychotherapist, Weight Control Expert
02:56 PM on 07/20/2011
Your statement is false. That medical professionals provide their services for fees does not mean that it is their sole purpose. Teachers and counselors do not get rich doing that, believe me.
10:17 AM on 07/19/2011
Dr. Katz,

I've been reading and listening to your information for a while. There's no doubt that behind your words is much knowledge and thought. For that, I thank you.

So, with that in mind, maybe you would consider moving to Washington DC and resolve the mess, the sound bytes, and double-speak that emanates from that part of the world.

Keep up the good work and don't pay too much attention to the squeaky wheels ... they'll drive you batty if you do.

Kindest regards,

Ken Leebow
http://www.Leebow.com
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David Katz, M.D.
Director, Yale Prevention Research Center; Editor-
08:40 AM on 07/21/2011
Thanks, Ken. I think it's a bit too hot in DC- in every sense of the word! But I appreciate the suggestion.