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Plain English About Ounces, Pounds, Dollars and Sense

Posted: 07/20/2012 11:17 am

One of the arguments for bariatric surgery in principle is that by addressing the problem of often severe obesity effectively, the procedure should alter the entire trajectory of health in a way that saves money. Obesity and its complications are costly; fixing the one and forestalling the others should attenuate those costs.

But such pecuniary hopes attached to weight loss surgery were themselves somewhat attenuated this week with the publication of a new study in the Archives of Surgery. The study, limited to older, male patients in the Veterans Affairs hospital system, showed that costs rise acutely with the surgery itself, as one would expect, but then fail to fall for the three years following. Reasons at this point remain a matter of speculation and debate.

Before following where this leads, I hasten to add that saving money is not the primary reason for bariatric surgery, any more than for coronary bypass. In general, intervening to address severe threats to health carries a cost, often a high cost, and one our society has proven repeatedly it is willing to pay. Bariatric surgery can reverse disease, avert death, and extend life. That it is often the best thing going for the treatment of severe obesity, is well-established by the available evidence currently in hand. I believe strongly it should be available to all who need it.

Our societal problem is letting too many need it in the first place.

As for costs, they don't make or break the case for bariatric surgery once it is needed, any more than they make or break the case for organ transplants, dialysis, burn unit care, or coronary bypass. In general, saving and improving lives in peril costs money. We can let people die for free -- that doesn't make it a good idea. In this, as in all things, we tend to get what we pay for.

But it would be one helluva' good idea to prevent so many people from needing medical procedures our society ultimately cannot afford, in the first place. That certainly includes bariatric surgery -- which could go away all but entirely, if we did all that it takes to make healthful eating and physical activity every day our prevailing cultural norm -- but also extends to coronary care, dialysis, amputations, and more, since so much chronic disease is propagated either directly by obesity, or by the same factors that propagate obesity. We have known for decades that bad use of feet, forks, and fingers represent the leading causes of premature death and virtually all of the major chronic diseases that bedevil our personal fortunes and national economy alike.

Dealing with advanced disease with surgery, or for that matter drugs, like the weight-loss drug Qnexa, just approved by the FDA, carries costs our society cannot bear -- even when such interventions work well, which is only sometimes. What would work better for health and vitality, and costs alike -- is prevention. Lifestyle as medicine.

While we keep spending vast fortunes on a status quo that, if we are quite blunt about it, covers the expenses of the highly imperfect efforts of all the king's horses and all the king's men, we could spend vastly smaller sums to blaze new trails entirely.

Consider a study in which a group of ordinary people who are lean and healthy in the midst of an obesigenic environment are enrolled. The group should be diverse -- younger and older, male and female, richer and poorer, employed and unemployed, in school and graduated, all variations of skin pigment, and so on. They should at first be overfed and underexercised a bit to prove they are as human as the rest of us, and gain weight when that happens. People who are genetically impervious to weight gain would be ineligible. We want people who CAN gain weight, but don't. For what it's worth, I'd be a perfect study subject so far.

Once we have such a group assembled, we should use readily available research methods to make a systematic audit of their skill sets, and the resources/tools they use as a matter of routine to stay healthy and lean. Using semi-structured survey methods and focus group techniques, this process would be iterative, meaning information is fed back to the group to prime the flow of more information -- which would continue until nothing new is disclosed. The audit is done when you know all there is to know.

Then, the inventory of skills and tools could be assembled, and matched against the daily challenges they are used to overcome. And just on the chance you are having doubts that such methods are plausible, we have put them to good use already -- although not quite as expansively as I am proposing here.

Once the inventory of skills and tools is identified, the next step would be to figure out how best to get them to everyone. Some tools might be most readily put into people's hands in school, others at work, others at church, others in the supermarket, others still online, and so on. We could create a map linking each resource, tool, or skill to the best means of getting it into everyone's hands.

Maybe this is sounding tough, but consider that just about every baby born in the United States learns to speak English. That's a pretty tall order, really -- just ask any adult from elsewhere who doesn't speak it and is trying to learn. Growing up in a culture that surrounds you with exposure to English makes it natural to learn English -- something very hard to do later on.

This is directly analogous to prevention, which requires you "grow up in it," but is easy and painless, as compared to dealing later on with what you didn't learn early. That's costly, hard, and painful.

In fact, the way we respond to obesity and related chronic disease in the U.S. is like waiting to send every adult to night school to learn English -- painfully, poorly, expensively, and late -- rather than having them grow up speaking fluently all along. We should certainly continue offering English-as-a-second-language classes to those who need them, just as we should continue paying for bariatric surgery and coronary bypass operations for those who need them. But not at the expense of routine fluency in either case.

English can be spoken fluently; so, too, can health. The research steps required to learn what the minority who now speak fluent health know, and how everyone else can learn it, are not trivial -- but they are not rocket science, either. They are not free, but they are vanishingly less expensive than the status quo, in both dollars, and human costs. Having some experience with this kind of research, a back-of-the-envelope calculation suggests the whole thing could be done for less than the cost of 100 bariatric operations. And we are doing roughly 10 times that many in the U.S.... every day!

There is English literacy; and there is health literacy. We could create a culture in which everyone simply acquires health literacy the way they acquire language. It is, if anything, probably a bit less hard!

Applying sense to get at the missing links of science as I've described them may sound as if it entails some heavy lifting. Perhaps. But compared to the crushing weight and unsustainable costs of the status quo -- it is as ounces to pounds, as cents to every dollar.

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One of the arguments for bariatric surgery in principle is that by addressing the problem of often severe obesity effectively, the procedure should alter the entire trajectory of health in a way that ...
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09:39 PM on 07/22/2012
Actually, even as I write this I am looking at a group that has successfully avoided becoming obese. It is the herd of deer feeding in the meadow outside my window. Not one of them is obese. And the mountain lion that stalks them from time to time is not obese either. In fact, I've seen thousands of deer and half a dozen mountain lions, and not one of them was obese.

These critters are not obese because they are eating what they evolved to eat, and they are engaged in the type of activity levels for which they evolved over eons. And they don't even count calories. Or seek advice from learned doctors.

Do the same principles have any application to humans? Absolutely, if you look back far enough to before the dawn of agriculture. Get rid of the grains, especially wheat. Get rid of the sugar. Get rid of dairy. Eat as much grassfed meat, fish, greens and vegetables, fruits and nuts as you wish. In short, eat what someone would have eaten 20,000 to 1,000,000 years ago. Nutritional intake will be optimal, and unless indulgence has permanently damaged your body, weight will be ideal and obesity nonexistent so long as reasonable physical activity is maintained.

Or you can get bariatric surgery instead, in which case your capacity to intake calories will be reduced, as will your capacity to intake nutrients, and you'll weigh less and look slimmer at the price of being unhealthy and poorly nourished.
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Ghostberry
All empty souls tend toward extreme opinions.
10:30 PM on 07/22/2012
You are right, but in a practical sense that is not sufficient. Humans are changing their environment, and so we need ways to adapt to that. Feeding 7 billion people grass fed meat is not an option.
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michaelwg
Pro-Lifers call my Micro-bio a Person
06:59 PM on 07/22/2012
I like how high school biology will teach you how to disect a dead frog but won't go into nutrition, cellular function, fat cell Hyperplasia, it's link to heart disease, toxins etc.. And how in gym class instead of learning physical activities that most adults turn to later in life to keep healthy (proper weight lifting, yoga, bodyweight exercises, etc.), they'll play dodgeball....
A lot of wasted opportunity IMO.
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Gary Amedee
Mea Culpa. Mea Maxima Cruenta Culpa
10:05 AM on 07/22/2012
I would love to be a dietician.
"Hi..take a seat"
"Here is a copy of the food pyramid"
"Eat less, exercise more"
"That will be $120 thanks"
"Next"
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michaelwg
Pro-Lifers call my Micro-bio a Person
06:54 PM on 07/22/2012
If you give them a copy of the food pyramid you are a terrible dietician....
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WestSeattle8
O futuro é agora.
09:16 AM on 07/22/2012
Going back to eating real and whole food is all that is needed. As long as the food industry keeps producing coke, high fructose corn syrup, trans fats, processed foods etc. etc. the epidemic will never end. Make healthy food abundant and affordable by taking the corn subsidies and providing that money to small farmers who produce organic fruits and vegetables would be a good first step.
08:39 AM on 07/22/2012
How about making school breakfast and lunches healthy and palatable. There are plenty of chefs who are able to come up with such a menu. Perhaps they could even donate that menu as a public service. That way, kids gow up fluent in health. You can't just "teach them what to eat." It's about access and what tastes good. A lot of people still think healty foods taste awful. So not true but how would they know if they have never been given a good taste of healthy food. This goes back to the haves and have nots, healthy food is more expensive than the greasy excuse for food that tastes good and fills up the belly.
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06:56 AM on 07/22/2012
"What would work better for health and vitality, and costs alike -- is prevention. Lifestyle as medicine."

I am on your side, Dr. Katz, on the prevention side of the prevention-treatment-care continuum in public health. Every neighborhood in the US should be organized with preventive health neighborhood center mandated to educate the public.

At the same time, the specific problems related to the US' heavy salt, sugar, fat intake in nearly every processed food throughout the country stems from a political decision to place our food policy in the hands of a few megafood industries that are able to sell us tainted meats, drinks and snacks that are bad for us but are cheaper than real foods and give us the impression of being food. We absolutely must cut US farm subsidies, diversify and localize our food products, if American health is ever to recover. A purely medical approach will only serve the medical insurance and pharma industries.
Demi Rites
Be good or go home.
06:17 AM on 07/22/2012
I am overweight and I will be going for the gastric sleeve in about eight months. I've been this way since I was in my teens and I only put on more weight with age. I know what is healthy and I understand about exercise, but all of that goes out the window when I am around food and exercise just is too painful and causes me injuries. I have given up on the idea of dieting because psychologically, I don't think I can take anymore failed attempts. My weight has cost the government probably close to a million dollars because I have gone through depression and anxiety to the point where I have become disabled. I don't work, go out, socialise, missed out on children, study, etc. Yet, if the government had added these surgeries years ago to Medicare, I would have been normal size and have had a normal life. They saved twenty thou, and wasted a million instead. I'm not the only one, there are a lot of people who are costing taxpayers a lot of money because the government keeps trying to 'fix' the problem in smaller ways. Let's just face the truth, 95% of obese people who lose weight put it back on and more. Let's not waste everyone's time, energy, money, let's just admit its a lost cause and give free surgeries to everyone cause in the long run, it will save more money and lives.
08:50 PM on 07/20/2012
My two main issues with this article are as follows:

1. The doctor here still believes that obesity is a cause and not a symptom. The language being used around obesity here and most elsewhere indicate this belief. Even when symptoms or syndromes in themselves contribute to other problems, those things are called "complications".
2. The research being described here is AGAIN based in the faulty thinking that obesity is a BEHAVIOURAL problem (this is code for "mental problem"). While there most certainly will be some obesity caused by behavioural problems, that is a minority of cases. Obesity is a physiological problem. It does not have a behavioural solution. It has a physiological solution.
jdave1
Mind like parachute: works best when open.
08:11 PM on 07/20/2012
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
06:47 PM on 07/20/2012
I have seen quite a few people that have had bariatric surgery gain a lot of the weight back because the surgery does nothing to change their mindset about food. It seems many just go back to their food obssesive ways. I have heard that prospective candidates for bariatric surgery go through a psychological assessment and nutrition counseling prior to surgery. But, let's face it, no matter what's going on in their head, they are still going to get the sugery because there is profit to be made. They look at food as providing some type of happiness or fulfillment of a void. I am a registered dietitian and know many, many overweight and obese dietitians. They have the knowlege, they know what to do yet they don't do it. I guess one just needs a healthy mind first to resist going with the flow in America. It makes me sad sometimes. I don't know how to help people with their food obsessions even though I suffered from this at one time in my life. Everybody has a different reason and a different thought process. It is beyond me.
10:12 PM on 07/21/2012
Or one needs foods that are not addictive. Every food company employs food chemists whose job is to make the food tasting good and make you want more of it. Very few people if any, who eat only home-made or natural stuff have food obsession.
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03:27 PM on 07/20/2012
dr katz, a terrific argument except for one all important detail. whenever people talk about the relative costs vs savings of a certain program, in this case promoting health vs intervention to clean up the results of bad health, they are talking generally in terms of costs to society as a whole.
there are corporations making billions off our general poor health even though the nation is being robbed. the makers of processed foods, the growers of commodity crops, the pharmaceutical companies, even the oil companies profit wildly from our poor health.
wouldn't it be lovely and way cheaper if people rode bikes, ate real food grown in good soil and didn't drink soda? but it wouldn't be good for the car companies, the fertilizer companies and the soft drink companies and they are all that matters to our government.
the big players will fight to the death to hold onto their power
03:00 PM on 07/20/2012
I think the first priority is to educate the doctors, who usually have no nutritional training. When an obese patient comes in, all he/she is often told is to eat a healthy diet, with no definition as to what a healthy diet is, or how to go about changing their diet. The same often applies to patients with heart disease, cancer, diabetes etc, all of whom could be significantly helped with the right diet. Either doctors need to admit that they are not trained in nutrition and refer all these patients to a dietitian, or they need to get some training for themselves. I can't tell you how many people I've met who won't change their diet because their doctor didn't suggest it or didn't agree that it would help. People look up to their doctors, and when doctors imply that everything can be solved with drugs and/or surgery, that's what people believe. Since nutrition is probably the largest determinant of our health, it should be the largest portion of any doctor's basic training, but today it is barely mentioned. This has to change.
05:09 PM on 07/20/2012
A nutritionist's goal is preventative care - at odds with the M.D.'s bottom line $$.
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urkiddinme
Former fatty turned fitness freak
05:23 PM on 07/20/2012
Overweight/obese patients are often directed toward a low-fat, "whole grain" diet where they end up eating a lot of processed junk and thinking half a box of Kashi with skim milk is a "good" breakfast and that two eggs and half an avocado would be "bad." Dietitians and nutritionists still spew the same outdated food pyramid information that made America fat and insulin resistant in the first place.
08:52 PM on 07/20/2012
I heard this just yesterday and loved it: "But a pyramid's a TOMB, dude!"
10:12 PM on 07/20/2012
Cereal is still processed food - better the egg and avocado. Whole food; recognizable. Green beans, brussel sprouts - all good in the morning.
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Carolyn Kostopoulos
02:58 PM on 07/20/2012
dr katz, a wonderful argument, but there's the problem. whenever you total up the savings of preventative health, you are speaking of costs to society as a whole. there are individuals and corporations making zillions off of the general state of ill health in america- the processed food makers, the commodity crop growers, the oil companies.
they don't care about the total costs to the nation or the world, only about their own profits. your argument is a no brainer until you consider how tightly those in control are going to fight to keep that control
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Bill Denaro
01:53 PM on 07/20/2012
I think most people change because they have to, or they get jolted into it... most of us think we are young, I can change later, then when later comes life gets in the way... then when a health care scare arises we somehow find the time to address what ails us.. I agree that it is a societal change that is needed, I also agree that it can be done with a little effort and a push... I like the fact that the Affordable Care act puts preventative care at the forefront and makes it easier to get... we need to develop incentives not just for the healthcare professionals and hospitals to do a better job of taking care us, but also for individuals to do a better job of taking care of themselves..
01:53 PM on 07/20/2012
I'm most concerned with the social costs of eating differently. I've experienced being the only one at the office meeting not eating cupcakes, the only friend at movie night not sharing the pizza, the only family member in the car not getting anything from the dairy queen drivethru. I dislike the effect of sugar/starch on my gut, but the peer pressure is immense and casts a gloom over the whole occasion.
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ginadeoliveira2008
Seen a shooting star tonight and I thought of you
02:55 PM on 07/20/2012
Toss it to the wind! Your well being is more important than that and they should as well know it!!
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03:55 PM on 07/20/2012
The importance of peer pressure is undeniable. But we can do judo with it, get it to work in our favor. A theme I address in this piece, all about 'updating' the way we show one another...love:

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs/eat-run/2012/07/18/i-love-you-have-another-helping