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Tibetan Buddhism's Insights Into Virtual Reality

Posted: 11/11/10 09:20 AM ET

During a recent tour of Buddhist monasteries in Sikkim and Bhutan, I found myself reading Ray Kurzweil's The Singularity is Near, a whopper of a book about the imminent fusion of biological and technological intelligence.

Along with his description of what would essentially be a new species of being, Kurzweil also talks about the onset of a virtual reality that would be essentially indistinguishable from what we currently call reality -- i.e. a direct access to our inner fields of perception (via our brain) from inputs other than the external phenomenal world we live in.

Between my sessions of reading about this visionary high tech future (on our rickety old bus traveling down monsoon-soaked, single-lane, cow/goat/monkey-sharing, cliff-dangling, so-called "roads") our group would periodically dismount and swarm (like a small group of bees) into some of the most awesome and impressive Tibetan style Buddhist monasteries in the world. They were replete with stunning wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling representations of the pantheon of Tantric Deities, said to be representations of our own layers of consciousness, but also readable as an alternate and parallel "virtual" reality of its own.

Huge blue and red and green rupas (statues with multiple arms, heads, ornaments), thangkas (paintings) and mandalas (symbolic representations of different Buddha fields) seemed to invite the viewer to step through a portal in his/her own mind into a sensuous, vivid and somewhat other-worldly realm in which enlightened beings with their full manifestation and retinues are completely present and manifest.

Buddhists who practice these disciplines (increasingly available in our modern Western culture) can spend hours a day and weeks or months on retreats conjuring visual (visualizations) and audio (mantra) of these environments, and at some point begin to recognize that the world which we take to be flat, ordinary, confusing, painful and uninspiring is actually the playground of these deities, and that we ourselves are in fact actual embodiments of them. Talk about virtual reality!

On our trip, I wondered about the future of our species, the nature of the singularity (near or far), and the future of a Buddhist country like Bhutan (whose 28-year-old leader is empowered as a Buddhist chogyal -- dharma king -- and who is a Harvard graduate). Technology is present in Bhutan (even the monks have cell phones) but many traditional methods of agriculture, crafts and daily life are still in place. In some sense Bhutan has the potential to work out a balance of social concerns, ecology, spiritual practice and material well being that could well be a model for future civilizations on this planet.

My hat is off to Ray Kurzweil for having the audacity to back up his ground-breaking vision of the future with considerable scientific and mathematical data. His view is something that at least every geek and nerd on the planet should be aware of, and should be of considerable interest to the rest of us ordinary folk, whether we buy into it or not.

And my hat is off to the people of Bhutan who were lovely, cheerful and very hospitable. They are also "keeping the faith" for Tibetan Buddhist practitioners worldwide.

May all beings, before and after the singularity, whether "actual" or "virtual," be safe, happy, healthy and at ease!

And hey, if you want to meet non-virtually, Cyndi and I are teaching Yoga Body Buddha Mind 2 (The Heart of Enlightenment) up at Kripalu Nov. 19-21. Blogging is great but we would love to meet some of you in the flesh!

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During a recent tour of Buddhist monasteries in Sikkim and Bhutan, I found myself reading Ray Kurzweil's The Singularity is Near, a whopper of a book about the imminent fusion of biological and techno...
During a recent tour of Buddhist monasteries in Sikkim and Bhutan, I found myself reading Ray Kurzweil's The Singularity is Near, a whopper of a book about the imminent fusion of biological and techno...
 
 
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rgilley
03:23 PM on 11/20/2010
I am totally amazed!! There actually Is a religion that I can find no fault with.
researcher
researcher
12:21 AM on 11/17/2010
pitch for the yoga thing????????

buddhism is an interesting religion.

some believe in souls some dont.

one buddhist book I have the monk states that human life is not only worthless but disgusting.

to most buddhists the idea is to get out of here as fast as possible. rebirth is a bummer all suffering.

but like all religions it is a worthwhile study. even a path.

they sure dont seem to be into wars and hate like many of the christians and muslims.
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10:06 AM on 11/17/2010
researcher . Good to see a post w/o th "P" word in it. Glad you mentioned Buddhism, a lot of people will rush to study it ,Just to see if it is as bleak as you say. LOL.
Oddly a lot of your posts remind me of Zen. (minus the "P"word of course)
You're right, at the present time Buddhist aren't at war with anyone. There were a lot involved in the WW2 ,China/Japan ,and later in SE Asia.
How do men of such a gentle , thoughtfull belief come to kill each other ?
Of course understanding this makes if easier to understand how the Christians and Islamist kill each other.
BTW. Which book said human life is worthless and disgusting ? I would like to hear his words I'm sure I could learn a lot from him. ;)
Peace.
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logicanada
Blogger, radio co-host, writer, editor, voice-over
05:23 AM on 11/13/2010
Was there in Tibet last year. Sooo cooooool. All these monks playing on the VR units saving worms and ants. Blew me awayy.
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David Nichtern
09:55 AM on 11/13/2010
Good to hear about that..... where exactly did you go? DN
11:55 PM on 11/12/2010
I’ve just started blogging about my own manic break and hospitalization. It’s about recovery and treatment, but more importantly about discovery of a new post-religion faith where there is no hell, no original sin, you are God, and heaven on earth is real, radiant and right around the corner. It's a new reality, a transparency dimension, and we can all go there. A wild and triumphant ride. http://graduatingfromgod.blogspot.com/
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rjhuntington
left is right and right is wrong
08:25 AM on 11/20/2010
"...a new post-religion faith where there is no hell, no original sin, you are God, and heaven on earth is real, radiant and right around the corner..."

Exactly right on. This is where we are going. Everyone is God. There's nothing else to be. Heaven is where we make it so. We have the power. The power of love. Love is power. Real power.
10:43 AM on 11/12/2010
what an interesting juxtaposition -- reading that book while in the midst of exploring monasteries! made me think of a couple dharma quotes i have stuck on my desk:

regard this phantom world
as a star at dawn, a bubble in a stream,
a flash of lightning in a summer cloud,
a flickering lamp - a phantom - and a dream."
~Vairacchedika 32; Diamond Sutra

since everything is but an apparition,
perfect in being what it is,
having nothing to do with good or bad,
acceptance or rejection
you might as well burst out laughing!
~Longchepa
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David Nichtern
11:27 AM on 11/12/2010
Perfect! DN
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
12:11 PM on 11/12/2010
Faved...

Issa's Haiku:
The couple's first-born child died shortly after his birth. A daughter died less than two-and-a-half years later, inspiring Issa to write this haiku (translated by Lewis Mackenzie):

露の世は露の世ながらさりながら
Tsuyu no yo wa tsuyu no yo nagara sari nagara

The world of dew --
A world of dew it is indeed,
And yet, and yet . . .
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David Nichtern
03:33 PM on 11/12/2010
Beautiful .... very elegant.... I can relate.... DN
01:06 AM on 11/12/2010
Perhaps Kipling was right to a point. East is east and west is west, and never the twain shall meet- AGAIN- because they had already met one another, and there was something of a disagreement.

Plato set his virtual reality in the cave; Kant in the categories, Leibniz in his Monadology, Berkeley in his esse est percipi.

St. Augustine had already established time and space as mental relationships in the fourth century.

The question does not center so much on the spirituality of reality but on the reality and continued existence of spirit.

Does the individual- the "I"- the soul- the seat of self-conscious, endure forever? Is it, as Buddhism holds, ultimately annihilated or "blown out", or does it face ultimate and eternal responsibility for the choices it makes within time? Does the Buddhist wheel eternally revolve or does the cross stand still while the world turns? Can one, to paraphrase Thoreau, "kill time and not injure eternity?"

These are all fascinating questions.
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Pandoras Folly
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03:23 AM on 11/12/2010
as these question are based arguments that are based on semantics induced by the construction of words they do not strictly matter any more than the interactions of shadows on the cave wall matter. Cross, wheel, soul, extinction, creation, time and eternity are all illusions created by the concious mind. We can use these illusions as one uses a finger to point at the moon for one who has not seen it.
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Tim Ostrander
skeptic, humanist, father
10:27 AM on 11/12/2010
Huh? If we agree with you, then we might as well stop talking altogether.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
11:54 AM on 11/12/2010
Excellent... here is physicist Anton Ziellenger in a great interview...

Q: So there is in fact something that exists independently of us. And the moon is also there when I'm not looking at it.

AZ: Something exists, but it is not directly accessible to us. Only indirectly. And whether this thing must really be called the "moon" is another question. That is also a construct.

@ http://www.signandsight.com/features/614.html
09:02 AM on 11/12/2010
These are indeed fascinating questions, but I must respectfully take issue with what you say. With regard to Buddhism, you suggest that the view is that the "I" or soul is ultimately annihilated rather than enduring forever. This seems to me misleading. The central Buddhist claim is not that the ego is ultimately destroyed--at death or something like that--but that it never exists in the first place. It is, as Pandoras Folly suggests, understood simply as an illusion, albeit a destructive one. (I think also for Tibetan Buddhism we would have to draw a distinction between the ego, which is simply a fiction, and the "soul"--i.e. the mindstream--which endures as a pattern from one lifetime to the next. But that's tricky).

With respect to the Western philosophers, you suggest a parallel, but I think it's misleading in a similar way. Take Kant: the Kantian categories are *necessary* or *essential* features of reality for rational beings. They may not be ultimately real (which sounds like Buddhism), but they are not transcendable. Likewise Berkeley, Leibniz, et al. posit metaphysical *necessities*. But the whole point of Buddhism is that the kleshas or defilements--presumably the Buddhist analogue to the Western a priori dimension of experience--are (ultimately illusory) obstacles to clear seeing that can be eliminated. That is the whole purpose of Buddhist practice.

The point is while I believe there may be important parallels between Buddhism and philosophy, emphasizing the idealism angle in this way obscures matters.
01:10 PM on 11/12/2010
Both eastern and western concepts would acknowledge that everything is not exactly as it seems.

The western concept would be that, despite the illusory appearance of things, the things themselves are real; the east would hold that the things have no self and are merely temporary illusions in a stream of consciousness which is itself illusory.

The eastern attributes this to the Dream dreaming the dreamer; the west to the Dreamer dreaming the dream.

Truth in the east is a transient and incomplete stream of illusory vicissitudes; in the west it is the conformity of thought and thing.
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11:20 PM on 11/11/2010
I regard my dream states as a virtual reality. I find them interesting, whether they are pleasing or displeasing. They are what I create all on my own, and so they give me insight into what may likely be bothering me or satisfying me at the moment.

I believe that some individuals can learn to do some dreaming while awake or in a semi-sleep state. I do not find that worth learning how to do, since dreaming is nothing extraordinary. I am satisfied that mystifying explanations of dreams are not helpful. They may be enjoyable, but they are phony not real. Although we have learned to refer to "virtual reality," that degrades the meaning of the word "reality."

I am aware that dream states have been interpreted as anything from predictions of the future to visits with 'spirits' no longer alive. As I do not believe in ghosts or need an ability to predict the future, such explanations no longer interest me. I can benefit from better understanding of who I am becoming, and I do depend on others to aid me in that process. I have no desire to go looking anywhere other than what I can find in my own culture. Such a search would be a distraction.
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Pandoras Folly
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03:25 AM on 11/12/2010
allow me to aid you. Carlos Casteneda, the Art of Dreaming if you are not already aware of it.
03:30 PM on 11/15/2010
Pandora, 'Soul of Shamanism', Daniel Noel, discusses C. Castaneda in depth (dreaming, p. 139ff). p. 175, "Jung goes on to say that neither the literal reality of the conscious world nor the nonliteral reality of the unconscious world is absolutely real." The goal is a 'waking dream', without analyzing the dream--this is hinted at, here, in Nichtern's article. p. 172, especially the concept that a woman patient 'merges herself in the unconscious processes, and she gains possession of them by allowing them to possess her" (thus the similarity to shamanism, John A. Grim, The Shaman, re Objibway shamans). p. 176, re Castaneda,”Don Juan shows us we live in fictions...and we live best when we learn to master the art.”' This corresponds to the truism known to hypnotists, 'sometimes it is hard to know who is hypnotizing whom'.

Castaneda created a work of fiction, passing it off as scientific field work. His genius was in 'hypnotizing' his readers into believing his work was real. In the E. Indian rope trick, no one climb the rope; the shaman hypnotizes himself and his audience. I pass myself off in HufPo as a post-Jungian (James Hillman) therapist of mature years—maybe I’m not. If I am crazy and believe this to be true, I am not lying to myself. If you then come to me for therapy, perhaps you can be healed by this ‘fiction’ we share.
03:31 PM on 11/15/2010
pandora, oops, Ojibway.
03:34 PM on 11/16/2010
January, you have investigated dreams thoroughly. James Hillman (post-Jungian) is against interpreting dreams. He suggests that the mood of the dream be 'lived' while awake. I walk the dogs in a wooded area as soon as I get up, while trying to feel or recall the dream. This practice has been used in Christian monasteries for centuries. There is probably no need for dream work before age 35, but it should be 'done' (Castaneda's 'not-doing') even more as one approaches death. A lingering death of at least a few weeks is necessary to prepare for the transition (or 'end'), through recalling one's past events in a 'dreamy' state.

Re 'who I am becoming' vs. integrating who I ‘was’. 'All' mental illness results from a mind that is too strong--it doesn't listen to the body, resulting in PTSD, etc (see my permalink, yesterday). Good therapy (including practice of Zen, etc.) is not about the future or happiness, but about learning to 'fall' backward into one's past, which has duration-in-time as a 'dreamy' state. A therapist is often needed as a lifeguard while monsters from childhood are med (Suchness = dread, terror; the life of a kid, and shamans, in touch with ‘nature’ is that of pure terror, see D. Noel). The goal of dreams is wholeness, now. The Catholic Purgatory is the virtual reality where dreams, as past ‘facts’, are forcibly integrated (vs. PTSD, where bad events become perpetual, disturbing ‘dreams’).
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06:43 PM on 11/17/2010
I appreciate the clarifications. I am impressed with what Freud called "repitition compulsion," where healing happens by repeating traumas. I do not recognize what the difference might be between the private fantasies and the public (with someone else, a therapist of some kind) acting out. Yet the latter has capacity to heal. Others have done it with combat fatigue victims.

Among my personal experiences were several years in regular psychodrama, during which there were for me healing moments. I assume also for other participants. I assume my dreams use old material as well. The public acting out, even while only role playing, is more potent as I experienced it. I recall especially some postponed grieving for my father I needed to do in the psychodrama setting. It helped me.
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JohnFromCensornati
The End is near
09:55 PM on 11/11/2010
An epic battle will likely ensue when the BIN Singularity’s army masses at the barricades of the Unifying Energy Field to protect The New Species from the chaotic desires of the Impoverished and Disconnected.

Quantum be upon you during the trying times ahead.
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David Nichtern
11:30 AM on 11/12/2010
Wow... sounds like you've got the template for a great sci-fi novel/movie here.... you should write it!

Best, DN
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gregstevens
I'm just some guy.
09:38 PM on 11/11/2010
I like this article, but I think it misses another possibly interesting insight when thinking about the conceptual boundaries between "virtual reality" and Buddhism.

That is that ALL experience is "virtual". Our naive experience of "the world out there" is a product of our own function as observing organisms reacting to energy patterns that impinge on our sensory organs. Anyone who knows how our sensory nervous system works knows that our experience is a construction based on limited data. We don't have direct experience of a "chair" : we create within ourselves a hallucination of an external object called a "chair" based on the integration of a large number of sensory inputs. That's just basic cognitive science.

And in that sense, the "reconstruction" that our mind creates of a "world out there" is no more "real" in "actual reality" than it is in "virtual reality." In that sense, all experience is virtual because experience itself is a property of the observer, not of the observed.
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10:25 PM on 11/11/2010
I am heartened that 'cognitive science ' is catching up with Eastern Thought after all these centuries.
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gregstevens
I'm just some guy.
10:31 PM on 11/12/2010
Actually, for a good treatment of this topic, check out the book "The Embodied Mind" by Varela, Thompson, and Rosch,

http://cogweb.ucla.edu/Abstracts/Varela,Thompson,Rosch_91.html

Absolutely a fantastic work.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
01:34 AM on 11/12/2010
Nice.. and not just the chair, but our own bodies. What are we, really?

Shiva Sutra: "Nothing perceived is independent of perception, and perception differs not from the perciever. Thus, the universe is none other than the perceiver."
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Tim Ostrander
skeptic, humanist, father
10:29 AM on 11/12/2010
There is truth and falsehood in the quote you give. Perception is imperfect, but the universe exists with or without it.
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khanti
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08:36 PM on 11/11/2010
Hi David, perhaps you can offer your training to help those returning with PTSD.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chaplain-mark-r-johnston/military-suicides-a-trage_b_781895.html#comments
03:46 PM on 11/15/2010
khanti, when I retire, about age 70, I plan to volunteer as a therapist at a Vet's hospital, helping with PTSD. PTSD occurs when the 'reality' of war cannot be fitted into the immature (Borderline p.d.) person's 'good' belief system that humans are 'nice' people. Inversely, PTSD occurs when the 'unreality' of war cannot be fitted into the person's rigid belief about what life 'really' is. Relativism is a good thing; all life--and dreams--are unreal, but they have to be lived as if they are both real, without the escapism of a belief in 'happiness'. The psyche (soul) grows thru suffering, mostly.
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khanti
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06:58 PM on 11/15/2010
Great gcarl! I hope you can start earlier as you will be able to help more people. From a relegious point of view they need to let the suppressed events unfold in their mind window and let karma take effect to wear out those traumatic consciousness(energy). It must be done in a controlled enviroment by a teacher. Only then will the mind accept reality.
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cayuse
Soaring Eagle, soaring to Spirit from the ego self
07:46 PM on 11/11/2010
GOD is great. I mean all conscious energy which we are at various states of consciousness within.

I remember an Ashram in Koetney Lake Canada, British Columbia. Swami Roda a gorgeous personage.

I had been doing Kriya yoga, but did not know what an Ashram was. As we passed the sign my first wife said. I was hoping you would not ask. She was into read Edgar Casey and had read Autobiography of a Yoga. Which I of course never read, but have follow the methods and techniques of Yoganada for 40 years. Which also irked her.

To our surprise the a bookstore with Tibetan Buddhism Yoga, Hindu Yoga, Buddhism, on and on.
It was an opportunity that did not bare fruit, unfortunately.

But what a place it set me on my path even further. At another time they offered to let us build a married community away from their main community. Because they were. But we still did not.

But we plugged into the great energy every time we were there. My face hurt from smiling after visiting there for weeks.

OM SAT TAT
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TheWM
aka The Wrong Monkey
05:17 PM on 11/11/2010
"Kurzeweile" is a German word, the opposite of "Langeweile," which means "boredom." "Kurzweil" doesn't have any exact English translation, but it means things like "interest," "fascination," entertainment."

That's all I got right now. Peace.

http://thewrongmonkey.blogspot.com/
04:49 PM on 11/11/2010
Bhuddism however you spell it does not teach you anything except that if you need to b e a bhuddist you should be a bhuddist. You know I do not even care to spell bhuddism correctly. Now, Hindu yoga is where it is at (there is no such thing as bhuddist yoga by the way). By the way, I am looking for some good Buddhist jokes.
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David Nichtern
05:18 PM on 11/11/2010
OK.... so a Buddhist monk checked into a hotel room in London and didn't leave his room for several years because the "Do Not Disturb" sign was on the inside of the door.....

There you go.... DN
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
10:06 AM on 11/12/2010
Heheh. I've had days like that. :)
03:30 PM on 11/12/2010
i suppose you already know why buddhists can't vacuum in tight corners, right?

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StopCensoringMe
Aghast at the stupidity and bigotry
05:56 PM on 11/11/2010
So, when comprehension fails, mockery is your fallback? Sad.
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soma77
Author, Speaker, Retreat Facilitator
02:24 PM on 11/11/2010
We see, hear, taste, smell and feel gross energy, but at the same time we can experience subtle energy. There is a limit to our senses and this boundary marks the experience of gross life because the subtle energy fields are out of our ordinary range of experience. Technology has shown us that there are subtle levels in our world, which we are not aware of because our senses are limited to the gross strata only. In order to experience the finer energies of life, it is necessary to improve our sense of being by aligning with the subtle energies. The techniques mentioned help us do this. Thank you http://thinkunity.com
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David Nichtern
04:27 PM on 11/11/2010
Soma --- Thanks for your comments... I think definitely this is another way of looking at the process.... my teacher, Trungpa Rinpoche, used to say to his students --- "there are sights that you haven't seen, sounds that you haven't heard ... etc." I think he was also referring to refining and attenuating our "subtle" senses..... Sending best regards, David N.
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cayuse
Soaring Eagle, soaring to Spirit from the ego self
07:53 PM on 11/11/2010
I did not see a technique, like Hong Sau. I will go back and read it all again
01:37 PM on 11/11/2010
David,

I don't know if you should be looking towards the future so eagerly. Personally, I think the modern innovations of the internet & virtual reality are making us human beings less and less capable of fixing our attention on any object for a long time.

Browsing the internet is probably the closest opposite for meditation !

People who are addicted to these chaotic lifestyles - flipping the remote on TV, flipping the hyperlinks on the browser, panicking about their posts and updates on social websites - they feel more agitated and frustrated than usual.. Not surprisingly. People have already stopped writing long letters, and many people have stopped reading poetry or reading long books. We are evolving into a twitterverse populated with people having microscopic attention spans.

What happens with continued evolution of the internet & VR technologies is that this frustration would only increase. I find myself partially guilty because I am working on making these technologies happen.

In such a future, achieving the stillness or Nirvana through meditative practices will be harder and harder. But may be, we humans will find a way out. We are, after all, creative beings.
06:03 PM on 11/11/2010
I could barely handle watching a football game the other day. Non-stop jumping around. There is no need to pay attention to anything for more than a second or two. Non stop graphics, replays and commercials.
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cayuse
Soaring Eagle, soaring to Spirit from the ego self
08:01 PM on 11/11/2010
I have been in Information technology for 40 years. I started at 19. Technology has only evolved to a better way to make a buck.

4000 years ago the knew more because the observed nature more. They had lots of time.

I sore through astro space, but not with technology. Maybe a scientific technique, but I would not call the technology. With technology we travel faster, but we go no ware they did not go 4000 years ago. We still are on earth. Faster material movement does not open up the universe that lies within each atom. Why travel when the truth is within all things
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Pandoras Folly
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10:13 AM on 11/15/2010
hah go no ware. i like that pun.