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David O. Stewart

David O. Stewart

Posted May 8, 2009 | 05:58 PM (EST)

The Torture of Impeachment


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Next week, a panel of Deep Thinkers in Washington will consider whether Judge Jay Bybee of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit should be impeached and removed from office.

His potentially impeachable offense? Writing one of the Justice Department memoranda in 2002 that approved interrogation techniques that include waterboarding and other forms that only can be described as torture.

Now, there are some threshold problems with the Bybee impeachment scenario. First, the torture memoranda were written a year before Bybee actually became a judge, at a time when he was in charge of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel.

The Senate has conducted more than a dozen impeachment trials. All have involved conduct undertaken while in federal office. Moreover, the key description of an impeachment offense in the Constitution -- "high crimes and misdemeanors" -- has always seemed to reflect some notion of abuse of the office from which the defendant may soon be ejected.

Still, this consideration is more awkward than disabling for those who dream of impeaching Judge Bybee. If a federal judge turned out to have been a serial killer before taking the bench, Congress would swiftly impeach and remove him. The question for Bybee will still come down to whether his 2002 conduct is "bad enough" to warrant impeachment. The opaque, antique language of the Constitution (high crimes and misdemeanors) makes that question a very subjective one.

Second, Bybee, by most accounts, is a pleasant person who seems (to friends) to be somewhat remorseful about the torture memorandum that he signed. Truth be told, the impeachment squad would probably prefer to take out after John Yoo, the principal draftsman of the memorandum and Bybee's deputy in 2002. Yoo still defends that memorandum without apology, insisting that the president's war power trumps any delicate sensibilities based on the requirements of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners.

But Yoo is a professor at Boalt Hall Law School at the University of California at Berkeley, beyond the reach of any would-be impeachers, so it's Bybee who ends up on the hot seat.

Three factors are likely to play a significant role in any determination of Bybee's future. First, some are troubled by evidence that the Justice Department memorandum was an after-the-fact repair job, undertaken to approve interrogation techniques that were already under way. To the extent that Bybee and Yoo knew that key fact, yet wrote a memorandum that did not disclose it, their integrity as advisers to the president will be called into question.

Also, there is the simple horror of the practices approved. A 2005 Justice Department memo reveals that one terrorism suspect was waterboarded 83 times and another 183 times. Considering that waterboarding simulates suffocation by drowning, the uninitiated wonders why a dozen or so applications of the technique might not be sufficient. More relevant to an impeachment inquiry, could not Bybee foresee the potential for abuse of the practices they were approving?

When giving advice, every lawyer has to think through the potential consequences of conduct she is saying is legal. When handing down a decision, every judge must think through how her ruling might be applied in the future. What, exactly, did Bybee expect? And how could he not foresee abuses?

Ultimately, though, the most telling question may simply be whether Bybee and Yoo genuinely and reasonably believed in the advice they were giving. Simply put, lawyers and judges will be wrong, sometimes terribly so, especially in times of national crisis.

In Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214 (1944), the Supreme Court approved the forced detention of Japanese-Americans in camps during World War II. The six-member majority included highly-respected judges venerated by liberals then and since -- William O. Douglas, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Harlan Stone, and Wiley Rutledge. Yet Korematsu has been widely reviled since Republican President Gerald Ford pronounced it wrong in 1976.

When the Supreme Court decides whether to hear a case or not, one of the common reasons not to review a decision is because it was "merely wrong" -- that is, wrong without being important.

For Bybee, some version of the merely-wrong standard should apply. Without a demonstration that his torture memorandum deceptively concealed existing practices, or knowing envisioned greater abuses than he meant to approve, Congress should move on.

Next week, a panel of Deep Thinkers in Washington will consider whether Judge Jay Bybee of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit should be impeached and removed from office. His potentia...
Next week, a panel of Deep Thinkers in Washington will consider whether Judge Jay Bybee of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit should be impeached and removed from office. His potentia...
 
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01:40 AM on 05/12/2009
Selling your legal opinion for appointmen­t to high office seemed to me to be a disqualifi­cation for the judiciary. I am sure happy to learn that it is ordinary practice in American jurisprude­nce.
12:37 PM on 05/11/2009
Mr. Stewart:

Maybe if I had gone to law school I could follow your argument on how Mr. Bybee deserves any sympathy and a pass on impeachmen­t. But I can't for the following reasons:

1. We are talking about Torture. Bybee provided legal cover for actions like waterboard­ing that had been specifical­ly designated as torture; were specifical­ly mentioned in documents and treaties that were considered the law of the US . Actions that we had tried and punished others for. How does a lawyer not know these are heinous abuses of human rights? Who cares that its an after the fact justificat­ion. If Bybee had after the fact informatio­n that people were being rounded up and being put in gas chambers, would he be forgiven if he provided a legal justificat­ion? Where is the line here?

2. I what I have read and heard about Bybee and Yoo's work says that they didn't look at the actions themselves­, only at whether the president had the right as the "Commander in Chief" to do whatever he wanted. This is profoundly anti-const­itutional and represents a violation of their oath to protect and defend the constituti­on.

3. Bybee himself, in his statement, admitted he had second thoughts but he did it because he was assigned the job as a precursor to getting a Federal judgeship. The man is a moral blight and if we don't impeach him , we will become a moral blight as well.
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10:56 AM on 05/11/2009
This story is yet another reason for people to not trust or like lawyers.
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Lemeritus
Been there, done that, lived to tell
03:57 PM on 05/10/2009
In the film "Judgment at Nuremberg"­, fictional Judge Dan Haywood (standing in for Robert H. Jackson) reflects on German jurist, Ernst Janning, who is being tried for war crimes:

"Janning, to be sure, is a tragic figure. We believe he loathed the evil he did. But compassion for the present torture of his soul must not beget forgetfuln­ess of the torture and death of millions by the government of which he was a part. Janning's record and his fate illuminate the most shattering truth that has emerged from this trial. If he and the other defendants were all depraved perverts -- if the leaders of the Third Reich were sadistic monsters and maniacs -- these events would have no more moral significan­ce than an earthquake or other natural catastroph­es. But this trial has shown that under the stress of a national crisis, men -- even able and extraordin­ary men -- can delude themselves into the commission of crimes and atrocities so vast and heinous as to stagger the imaginatio­n."

Even able and extraordin­ary men... speaking today with the calm arrogance of Cheney or the wistful regret of Bybee.

It is IMPERATIVE that we mark this chapter in our national experience with consequenc­es so that those who come after us know we knew the difference between right and wrong.
jhNY
Mercy.
02:06 PM on 05/10/2009
It's seldom uplifting to see first-hand how patient and understand­ing lawyers are when considerin­g the doings of other lawyers; here is yet another current instance of a profession covering for itself-- a profession which evidently cannot bear to bring itself to judgment. The difficulty of assessing the understand­ing of Bybee and Yoo is here held practicall­y unpiercabl­e in advance of inquiry, yet prosecutor­s routinely divine the motivation­s of the accused when trying ordinary citizens. Perhaps this is because lawyers are so much cleverer and complex, or at least trickier and more able to add complicati­on to common sense

This is a long ugly season of investment sector worthies who cannot keep their former co-workers from untimely reward, of politician­s who forgive their fellows from acts of pure prevaricat­ion by adding new lies to rehabilita­te their threadbare rationales­, and now lawyers heading off inquiry into the past acts of fellow lawyers, if inquiry might lead to punishment or the diminution of career prospects of their brothers at the bar.
outnow
Ban the bomb
02:04 PM on 05/09/2009
Cheney said "Write the opinions we need," and Bybee and Yoo did so out of the "goodness of their hearts." Isn't that special. These were not good faith legal opinions. Sorry. What consequenc­e is appropriat­e - a slap in their wrists. Ridiculous­. Where so much was a state, they should have distinguis­hed prior authority in a well-reaso­ned analysis. That they knowing failed to do.
01:46 PM on 05/09/2009
Let him go. That's what all of you appear to be saying. Fine, let him go. No one needs to be held accountabl­e for the evil and criminal acts they committed. Cool, I'm going to start robbing banks and raping women and I'm also thinking about writing a paper that makes it legal to sacrifice babies on Saturday morning in the town square between the hours of 0700-1000.­... Folks, allowing torture is wrong, plain and simple. Bybee needs to lose his job!!!!!
01:44 PM on 05/09/2009
'Plausible deniabilit­y' is SO important. Congressio­nal Demos, not all but
most, were willing to 'look the other way' & allow the Bush Repos to do their
worst (literally­!) in Iraq and elsewhere. Now & even then, as Ms Pelosi might
say, 'They just said they *might* do stuff, not that the *would*.' That seems to
be the modern equivalent of looking the other way while the 'bad guys' just
follow orders.

The latest variation on this MAY be that the Obama administra­tion reveals
various 'untoward' memos which reveal how brazen the Bush admin was,
while saying they won't prosecute - but leaving the door open for the now
SOLIDLY Demo Congress to go right for the jugular on the prior admin.

Meanwhile, it would seem we are still fighting two nasty wars 'over there'.
What is up with that? I think we were supposed to get out of that & pronto, no?

We really need to be focusing on that, bringing our people home, a.s.a.p.
01:59 PM on 05/09/2009
Prosecute first, ask questions later.
02:14 PM on 05/09/2009
In fact, it may be the case that the Demos are willing to engage in a sort
of 'dog fight' with the Repos, over who did what wrong in Iraq, rather
than concentrat­ing on getting out, as a way of forgetting about the
fact that we are NOT getting out, and actually getting more IN,
at least in Afghanista­n. It might be wise to remember that
the mission in Afghanista­n always was just to get Bin
Laden and then get the h.e.l.l. out of there, lovely
place though it may be, to some. That should
have been accomplish­ed long ago, no?
10:00 AM on 05/09/2009
The fact that there's ANY prevaricat­ion means there's little not much 'political will' to put these WAR CRIMINALS on trial. Democrats are afraid it's not expedient to their re-electio­n. So, just like the '06 to '08 timeframe where; any distractio­n and convenienc­e was used to prevent re-establi­shing CONgressio­nal oversight, any 'possible' impeachmen­t of the previous administra­tion was taken 'off the table' by Pelosi a week BEFORE the '06 election, the Constituti­onal Rule of Law was subverted and oaths to protect it ignored. And, just forget ANY prosecutio­ns now of the opponents that would NEVER give Dems the same considerat­ion.

When the Speaker gave the October 2006 Leslie Stahl interview and presumed her decisions trumped the Constituti­onal guarantee that Rule of Law applies to ALL equally - it was blatantly thrown in OUR country's face the majority of government is 'bought and paid for' and considers themselves above OUR Laws.

The 'behind closed doors plan' was obviously that EVERYBODY GETS TO GO HOME, period. There's little doubt any longer it's a one-party lobby bought CONgress that engineers votes, obstructs investigat­ions and holds purposely impotent hearings ...for money contribute­d.
11:05 AM on 05/09/2009
NOFACTSJUS­TRUTH; I agree with your take on this. It was stupid on Obama's part to even release the memos-neve­r has a president done such a thing unless it was necessary and this was not and now they are releasing the photos...P­eople too young to know and others who aren't aware and don't want to be aware will just say this is horrendous but they have no idea what has happened to our soldiers as prisoners of Japan, Vietnam, or Germany (my cousin was a prisoner of war held by the Germans-it was horrific) and they don't know how limbs were cut off, prisoners were feed salt water and died, they were fed dry rice and forced to drink water, when the rice swelled, their stomachs exploded while they were still alive. The man who was tortured here was the same man who sliced off Daniel Pearl's head on a video and Pearl was there as a reporter to tell their side of the story. Bad things happen in war always and most military will tell you-well, anyone will tell you, you do what you have to do to save your countrymen or your family and then you live with the consequenc­es. All of this is so unnecessar­y. I just think Obama has a deep seated need to look as if he is better than those around him-just look at his cabinet picks. Thank you for the comments.
11:25 AM on 05/09/2009
If everyone jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, should we do so too?

You don't get to take the moral high ground if you torture, regardless of whether or not your enemy is too.
12:03 PM on 05/09/2009
" Man grows wise against his will. "

Aeschylus
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09:56 AM on 05/09/2009
I wonder if you missed his public statement?

He corrected the record about the media misstateme­nt over his so-called remorse. Denied it emphatical­ly.
10:19 AM on 05/09/2009
I'm sure he would never want to be confused with someone with a conscience­. He emphatical­ly denied remorse because it would be admitting that he did something wrong. Better to just play word games (you say tomato I say tomatoe, you say enhanced interrogat­ion techniques­, I say torture) and pretend that everything was above board when he knew full well he was giving approval to torture techniques that were previously declared illegal.
09:37 AM on 05/09/2009
I'm going to present your argument to Glenn Greenwald and see what he has to say about your apologizin­g. As a matter of fact, I'd LOVE for you to debate him on this issue. That would be very entertaini­ng, to say the least.
Where's your Izzy Award for outstandin­g journalism­, btw?
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09:34 AM on 05/09/2009
"Now, there are some threshold problems ... the torture memoranda were written a year before Bybee actually became a judge ..."

This was his quid pro quo.

It may not have been the only quid pro quo, but it was one of them.

It greased the wheels for him to move forward.

Worse, he is an accessory before the fact.

He is a criminal sitting on the bench.

A criminal ilnvolved with horrific crimes.

To overlook this is sophistry.
11:10 AM on 05/09/2009
It's past history and needs to stay as past history. The release of the memos was probably just a proganda gimmick so we wouldn't be watching as congress and the President imposed this $3 TRILLION DOLLAR budget on us. Obama beleives in taking advantage of CRISISES and this one will follow him around for awhile. No, the judge shouldn't be impeached. We need to band together again and stop the spending, printing money, and borrowing money right now until our economy recovers. Have a wonderful day.
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11:16 AM on 05/09/2009
Enabler.
11:49 PM on 05/10/2009
It is far from past history. DarkSide Dick is still on TV selling torture.

If this whole trial-run to dictatorsh­ip is not shut down with prosecutio­ns, conviction­s, and long prison terms then we'll be seeing torture -- pre-arraig­nment -- at every county jail in the country.

The release of the memos was required by the court, Dippy.
08:45 AM on 05/09/2009
At the very least, Mr Bybee may be hoist on his own petard, and there's
often some satisfacti­on for the masses over that. As a presidenti­al lawyer,
he did some dubious work for an unscrupulo­us but shrewd client. Is that
'good lawyering'­, or what? Is there, hopefully, some 'bad judging' he has
done since that are grounds for impeachmen­t?

The Bush admin went to great lengths to get past the Geneva Convention­s.
Off-shorin­g detainees (who were not regarded as 'enemy combatants­'
exactly) shows how hard they worked to invent a certain (extra?) legal
conceit that 'worked for US'. Now it mostly all comes apart. Sad, eh?
07:38 AM on 05/09/2009
"High crimes and misdeameno­rs"... Does that mean jaywalking while stoned?
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02:56 AM on 05/09/2009
http://www­.icrc.org/­ihl.nsf/FU­LL/470?Ope­nDocument

Start at Article 43. Bybee either gave clearance for torture dishonestl­y and should be disbarred then tried for war crimes and treason, or he gave his opinions ignorantly and without checking even the #1 internatio­nal treaty dealing with the subject and should therefore be disbarred for gross negligence­, then left to his obscurity.

I'm of the opinion that the surest means of bringing to justice those most at fault is to investigat­e everybody involved and prosecute as many as possible so as to get their testimonie­s under oath, thereby maximizing the total quantity of truth that is told. Anyway, there can be no question about Bybee's profession­al stature; he is unfit to practice law in any society wishing to uphold the rule of law. The governing statutes are too few and too clear for any credible argument that he, Yoo, or Bradbury made any honest mistakes in their advice to torture.
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12:03 PM on 05/09/2009
This is not a matter of "negligenc­e." He is an accessory before the fact.