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David Sirota

Posted: May 16, 2010 01:15 PM

GOP: Recession's Foreclosure Victims "Want a Homeless Life"

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NOTE: We'll be discussing this story on my AM760 morning show here in Colorado from 7-10am local time on Monday. Tune in on your radio dial or on the web at www.am760.net. - D

After their anti-tax zealotry left their city in the budgetary lurch, Colorado Springs Republicans have slashed their community's social services to the bone. We're talking big cuts to police, firefighters, park maintenance, public transportation - even turning off the city's streetlights (except, of course, in the wealthy areas!).

If this wasn't bad enough, the city council this week doubled down on its conservative extremism, officially opposing a congressional jobs bill that would provide roughly $43 million to the city in much-needed aid. Their rationale? They don't want to add to the federal deficit -- a seemingly principled position, until you realize the same city council has had nothing to say about a far bigger deficit culprit: the profligate defense spending that underwrites about a third of Colorado Springs.

You see, for both Springs' Republicans and the Republican Party nationally, federal deficit spending on huge defense contractors as AOK. But deficit spending on jobs for the unemployed or basic safety-net services for the very poor in a city that has experienced a big jump in homelessness? Well, Republicans are against that because, according to the Springs' Republican mayor, Lionel Rivera, poor people want to be poor.

That last part sounds like I'm extrapolating the mayor's comments, but unfortunately it's exactly what he said. Check this out from the Denver Post's Susan Greene today, quoting The Springs' mayor:

Thumbing his nose at federal assistance seems to abdicate his responsibilities to the Judd Hesses of his community and others who are down and out, living in tent colonies, arguably not because they want to.


"Some people want a homeless life," counters (Mayor) Rivera, a financial adviser. "Some people, they really do."

So there you have it: According to the conservative leader of one of the most conservative cities in America, those thrown out of their homes in this Great Recession actually want to be homeless, so we shouldn't spend money or -- gasp! -- dare to raise taxes on the super-rich to generate revenue for programs to help the homeless get back on their feet.

I'd say that's about as frank an admission about the Republican Party's callous attitude these days as any. Give the Springs' conservative leadership credit -- at least their honest in their heartlessness and their extremism.

 
 
 

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caseyblab
10:26 AM on 05/21/2010
Take and money and let people get some jobs going for Colorado Springs. The town deserves some leadership with vision and not fundamentalist hogwash. If Rivera believes that some people like being homeless, fine- but he should not be the one in charge of getting an economy up and running for the 99.9% of the people who want to work and earn a decent life. Basing the opportunities for your population on the attitude of probable mental cases is despicable. Put on your Big Boy Pants and act like a leader who cares.
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Frances Thorsen
Real Estate Writer and Blogger
08:17 PM on 05/20/2010
"Some people want a homeless life. Some people, they really do." Sounds like this Colorado mayor has engaged the political coaching services of Barbara Bush.
06:52 AM on 05/20/2010
This is the same mayor who just approved ANOTHER rate hike to our water rates to pay for a pipeline system, or should I say, Phase 1 of 2, set to be finished in 2016. With hikes every year until the $2-3 billion Phase 1 is complete, our bills will be doubled. All this after they increased our water rates by more than 40% last year due to a $40 million dollar shortfall from the loss of new housing starts!! Rivera and his buddies have been selling our city to every developer possible and now want all of us to pay for their greed in a down economy. There is a reason Rivera was accused of ethics violations stemming from yet another awful city realestate deal, better known as the USOC. It's sad to see the town I grew up in reduced to stories like this because of the Lionel Riveras and Ted Haggards of the world.
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01:32 PM on 05/19/2010
The best that we can hope for at this point is to rid ourselves of the Republican parasites and begin anew. Perhaps then we can talk tax increases. However, asking the working poor to carry the tax load will be a future no-go. Corporate enterprises will need to chip in as well.

Are you listening, Rivera?
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BlackJAC
It's better to be a black king than a white knight
09:17 AM on 05/18/2010
Let's remember that gops are masochists at heart. Why else would they brand empathy as Nazism?
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Soulsurfer
Solar Electrician,Longtime Surfin'Fool
09:07 AM on 05/18/2010
David, don't act so surprised. This sentiment is at the core of the conservative ideology; Poor people deserve to be poor. Yes, it's a little surprising to actually hear an elected official say it in public, but this is how they all feel about underpriviledged people. They're poor because they are lazy, stupid, or both. Wealthy people, on the other hand, are smart and hard working, so they deserve to be well off, and should be able to keep their wealth to do with as they please. There's no subtlety or grey areas for conservatives, no considerations of priviledge, ease of opportunity, education, race, class, social justice, or health situations. Just Me, My, Mine.
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Decorina
Hypocrisy means your karma ran over your dogma
11:22 AM on 05/18/2010
Like so much of their agenda cons support economic and social Darwinism while they deny real evolutionary theory. It makes them happy to think that the rich evolved that way because their Jeebus favors them.
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Poorsarah
02:37 AM on 05/18/2010
Maybe we should round up all politicians who feel this way and dump them out on the streets without a home...I wonder if they would like it also? These kind politicians are sickening at best.
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MyFatCat
Slacktivist no longer
09:35 PM on 05/17/2010
What's worse is watching the homeless life creep closer as the job doesn't come and the mortgage company shrugs and the realtor in the late-model black BMW stops by the house to take a picture, in case you lose the home and he wants to list it. He'll lie, and tell you that he doesn't know why the mortgage company needs photographic evidence that the home is occupied.

He knows.

Yeah, right, we want to be homeless and to watch our homes flipped like pancakes by the circling vultures.
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06:26 PM on 05/17/2010
oh snap! he really didn't say that did he???????????? heeheeheee! the repubs sure do know how to sell comedy.
05:29 PM on 05/17/2010
Dumber than stumps and even more useless. What a thing to say. The GOP is exposing themselves in such ugly filthy expressions and actions, how can they expect to survive?
The GOP will be the first homeless political party, nowhere to turn but upside down and over the cliff. Good riddance.
The Independents will be taking their places in our govt and we might get some progress in rising from this GOP induced criminal mess they made of this country.
The lazy part of the Dems will be replaced with Independents too. Go new party!!!!!
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01:43 PM on 05/19/2010
So now that Republicans have completely lost their minds, deciding that such comments are appropriate and will go over well with the electorate... while meanwhile openly suggesting that we no longer have use for public programs such as Social Security, Medicare, public education... or that we can barter chickens in exchange for medical treatment... I'm guessing their honesty will be doing them in at the polls shortly.

Every time one of these nitwits comes up with something this stupid I get all goose-pimply thinking how such videotaped quotes would look to the public if Democrats had the sense to use them in their campaign ads.
05:02 PM on 05/17/2010
I kind of like all the street lights out. You can see the stars and I was fortunate enough to see a meteor last night out of the front window. Too bad our city government is so unenlightened, so to speak, that they couldn't have turned our economic misfortunes into a win-win situation and jumped on the Dark Sky Initiative like other cities. But then, Mayor Rivera didn't ask us to vote on the millions of dollars they gave the US Olympic Committee either.
Either way, he is history. And so will be a lot of the city council in the next elections.
His statement concerning the homeless, just further proves that he has no clue what the homeless suffer on a daily basis. And turning down federal monies to support the majority of council's idiotic Libertarian values is just plain stupid. I want my tax dollars coming to my community!
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
02:15 PM on 05/17/2010
I think I have met one person in my entire life who really actually wanted to be homeless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Butch

(And now he is dead. He lived and died about two blocks from my place.)
I can't believe he has a wiki page. That would have amused him.
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darcdante
01:50 PM on 05/17/2010
You actually are extrapolating Mayor Rivera's comments.He said "Some people want a homeless life." That group of "some people" likely does not include people who bought a house, since they obviously proved a desire to not be homeless. His statement is factual; some people DO actually want to be homeless, hard as that might be for the rest of us to understand.

This article is simple punditry; not real journalism.

This article fails to mention TABOR, which dictates that all new taxes be approved by the voters. The voters rejected higher PROPERTY taxes, hardly a "tax on the wealthy" as the author here states. If higher property taxes are this author's idea of keeping people in their homes, then we need some new liberal brainstorming.

Please know the city you're writing about before you try and make my home town look bad. Keeping property taxes low is a way to help keep people in their homes and avoid foreclosures. That might seem evil to the left, but it's common sense to me.
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darcdante
01:54 PM on 05/17/2010
Oh, and in case Mr. Sirota is reading these comments, here's my proof:

http://www.gazette.com/articles/election-65031-narrative-.html

"Rattled by an economic downturn and skeptical of the dire predictions emanating from City Hall, Colorado Springs voters overwhelmingly rejected a proposal to raise property taxes to stave off myriad cuts in city services next year."

Raising property taxes and arguing that's going to somehow keep people in their homes is beyond stupid.
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02:21 PM on 05/19/2010
And then there's the USOC debacle. My arguments are chronicled in comments on a previous Huff Post blog which I have no wish to rehash here... though the author of this article may be interested to learn what went on with the shady Rivera-inspired USOC deal and the resulting backlash. Here's plenty of fodder in response to Shandrick's ridiculous piece and the contention in this article that we're all a bunch of GOP suckers suffering from an aversion to paying taxes. It does help to have some background before throwing talking points out there. Not that we're in any way in love with the Republican hucksters in control of the city, mind you.

The real deal (see comments, not so much Shandrick's babble, but read it anyway for context): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-shandrick/inmates-now-running-the-a_b_347275.html
ConcernedAmerican
I'm concerned my name isn't very clever.
03:34 PM on 05/17/2010
The fact that your home town can't keep it's streetlights on is making you look bad enough without your ideeot mayor's comments.

You should move to Denver. The lights are on and the mayor hasn't driven the city into the ground with conservative incompetence.
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darcdante
03:55 PM on 05/17/2010
lol, right

"Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper on Tuesday presented plans to cut $120 million from the city budget, including eliminating 176 city jobs... However, if the city and fire unions don't make concessions about pay raises, the number of layoffs will be even higher. On top of that, another 191 police officers, firefighters and sheriff's deputies could lose their jobs if they don't agree to forgo raises."

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/20926613/detail.html

Every city has to deal with budget cuts these days, regardless of what their economic policies are. The Springs City Council wanted to raise property taxes to negate a lot of the budget cuts. The voters decided that would be a bad idea in the midst of a recession and voted against the proposal. Hence, they had to sell our police helicopter. Meh.

I actually live in Castle Rock these days. It's a nice location between Denver and the Springs. They're very different cities, and I actually kinda like Denver more. The Springs is just one big suburb.

Anyway, if you want to look at where liberal economic policies lead, how about California?
DUSAA-1775
never moon a werewolf
01:48 PM on 05/17/2010
I guess i missed the factual references in the article. I re-read it and still could not find where 'foreclosure victims want a homeless life" has been inserted into the Republican platform.
12:44 PM on 05/17/2010
Nobody force people to buy a home, if you made a mistake and signed the loan agreement and can no longer pay, you dont get to stay in the home. As mean as it may sound, sometimes you have to learn lessons the hard way. You agreed to pay the loan, you knew if you could not pay it, you would loose it. So, learn that if you cant affor something, you dont buy it. If you cant a afford a home, rent, the is nothing wrong with renting a place.

If you are think that is wrong or mean, then put your money where you mouth is, open the doors to your house for people to stay in until the can get back on there feet. Or, open your checkbook up.
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ladyfractal
Bioinformatician
12:57 PM on 05/17/2010
So let me see if I have this correct:

Someone buys a home, at the time they bought the home they could afford it. Then, about 24 months ago, this person lost their job through no fault of their own. Because their area was hit particularly hard, there are jobs but none that would keep up with the mortgage payments. So the bank forecloses. Am I to understand that this person should have presumed that they would lose their job and therefore their home and not have bought a home unless their job was absolutely airtight? Am I following your logic correctly?
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kcsandy
01:13 PM on 05/17/2010
Logic has nothing to do with what that ignorant person posted. You tried to follow it, but you were fighting a losing battle. There is none there to follow.
02:21 PM on 05/17/2010
Yes, you must always be looking down the road. If you had been a bit more wise with your money and saved instead of getting a preditory loan, you could have saved for the future. If you loose job, yes it is sad but sometime life can be hard. You do not have the right to stay in your home on your neighbors dime if you cant afford the bill. So, you get foreclosed on, its life, learn from it, you may just now have to rent a place.
01:07 PM on 05/17/2010
That's really insightful. Now I know how some of the more lower IQ republicans think.
That people who had jobs and could easily afford their houses that they voluntarily signed loans for are at fault for the epic failure of the most recent republican reign of terror.
Yep, it's their fault that their jobs were eliminated. They wanted their jobs to be eliminated. It's their fault that the home they bought became unaffordable. They are stupid for buying a home that they could afford and then had the republicans destroy the American dream for most of us.
And by the way, I've found that renting is as expensive or even more expensive than buying at least 1/2 the time.
Instead of punishing the victims by telling them that they are at fault for being a victim lets punish those that are responsible. Lets help the victims recover from the crime that was committed against them.
Being the victim and then being told you are at fault is a much harsher lesson to learn the hard way.
02:25 PM on 05/17/2010
Its life, GROW UP. Bad things happen, people loose their jobs. So, learn from the things that happen in life. Instead of crying asking government to hold your hand, BE A MAN, get up and rebuild your life. Geez, why are you bleeding heart liberals so pathetic.