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David Sirota

David Sirota

Posted: October 16, 2009 12:06 PM

Why Are Dems and Beltway Reporters Pretending Olympia Snowe Is Important?

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I may be the only person following the debate over health care who is shocked at the attention Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) is getting for voting for the Senate Finance Committee health care bill - but yes, as my new newspaper column explains, I am surprised, and for what should be obvious reasons.

First of all, Snowe's vote in support of the bill wasn't mathematically necessary - the bill would have passed with or without her vote for it. That's just an empirical fact; as is the fact that Democrats have 60 votes themselves to overcome a filibuster with or without Snowe; as is the fact that Democrats have the 51 votes necessary to pass health care reform with reconciliation, again with or without Snowe. So the idea that her vote was/is pivotal is a fantasy created by a Beltway media always trying to manufacture drama - and often stretching to manufacture that drama in a city populated by old, boring, ultra-parsing sycophants and lobotomy cases.

Second, and more important, the idea that Snowe's support is important because it will allow the final bill to be called "bipartisan" - and the idea that that billing will politically protect Democrats - is absurd on its face. How do we know this? Because Democrats taught us that via the Iraq War.

Recall that a huge chunk of Democratic legislators voted to support the Iraq War. Indeed, the Iraq resolution was far more "bipartisan" than the health care bill can ever hope to be in this Congress. And yet, Democrats turned right around and used the Iraq War to criticize Republicans and the Bush administration - and quite effectively, if the 2006 and 2008 elections were any indication. I'm not saying I was 100% happy with that - I would have liked the Democrats to oppose the war from the get-go, but I am saying it's a pretty clear fact that even though Democrats supported the Iraq War, it didn't prevent them from attacking the Republicans/Bush on the issue.

Thus, the idea that one Republican vote from Maine will politically insulate Democrats from GOP attacks on health care doesn't make any sense. The only thing that will ultimately protect Democrats from those inevitable GOP political attacks will be a health care bill that actually delivers real results.

Read the whole column here.

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I may be the only person following the debate over health care who is shocked at the attention Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) is getting for voting for the Senate Finance Committee health care bill - but y...
I may be the only person following the debate over health care who is shocked at the attention Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) is getting for voting for the Senate Finance Committee health care bill - but y...
 
 
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
BocaMom
02:53 PM on 10/19/2009
Because we can't trust the Blue Dog Democrats who are more Republican than Snow!
01:20 AM on 10/19/2009
Olympia Snowe is not my president.
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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
06:00 PM on 10/18/2009
The Washington media has done his so often, focusing on the one self-serving 'squeaky wheel' as the "pivotal vote" when 49 others Senators had done their civic uty and voted their consciences without fanfare. They reward prima donna behavior. Most often we get the spectacle of the 'pivotal vote' posturing and posing before news cameras like some minor Hollywood star.

To Snowe's credit, she didn't seem particularly interested in posing for the cameras. The RNC made her a 'star' by forcing everyone but her to tow the party line. She got notices because she was the only one not grovelling.
05:28 PM on 10/18/2009
A naive belief in the magic of bipartisanship.

Those who know their history know that if Thalmann had extended a bi-partisan hand to von Papen, the world would be a much difference place today, I suppose.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
05:09 PM on 10/18/2009
This is not bipartisanship, this is basic math. You need to get to 60. If every dem and joe liberman and bernie sanders vote for the bill we make it. If we lose even one senator we fail to end debate and the bill never comes to a vote. If you want to pass this bill with reconciliation, meaning A)that it ends in five years and B) that every amendment to the bill and there will be hundreds, needs a vote. And if each one of those amendments gets filibustered, then each amendment needs 60s. So the only way to really push this through reconciliation is to suspend the rules of the senate for budget matters. So, if that is what you want to do just come out and say it. Don't start asking, "Why is Snowe so important," until the Mass senator took Teddy's place we had 59 votes max. Franken wasn't seated until june so that was 58, byrd was ill also so that was 57. Lieberman isn't reliable, and Specter didn't switch until April so that is 56, 55. Count Landrieu out and that is 54. So the max number we've had for most of this year is 54-55. How do you pass anything with that mix of votes without making a massive push to get the Maine senators to vote with us. Now we have 60 and she is less important but not unimportant.
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MrBadger
03:35 PM on 10/18/2009
Well, I think you missed something - Snowe's vote allows Obama to save face. In politics nothing is more important.
03:06 PM on 10/18/2009
As the only remaining moderate Republican, she serves to remind the
'moderate' Democrats (perhaps half of the sixty, they say) of their place,
and she gives her colleague Susan Collins license to move rightward.
02:20 PM on 10/18/2009
By focusing on HER vote, they didn't have to focus on the democrats who voted no.
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MrBadger
03:36 PM on 10/18/2009
Hear hear!
02:19 PM on 10/18/2009
"The only thing that will ultimately protect Democrats from those inevitable GOP political attacks will be a health care bill that actually delivers real results".

Aye. Therein lies the rub.
05:02 PM on 10/18/2009
The only thing that will protect the Democrats from GOP political attacks is a perfect bill that delivers perfect results. Since life doesn't work that way, there will be GOP attacks no matter how good the results are. They'll be able to find something to criticize.
01:55 PM on 10/18/2009
The myth generated during the Reagan years that is held to with almost religious faith in the media and inside the Beltway, is that the Republican Party SHOULD be the governing party, and the Democrats should always be the minority party; so when the Dems win elections they're expected to kowtow to the "real' governing party, the Repubs. And the saddest part is that many of the Beltway politicians who believe this are Democrats. And when Gibbs addressed tyhe press after the committee vote and announced that the Baucus bill was "bipartisan" (simply because of Snowe's vote), what he was really saying is "see, we did kowtow, now we can be friends!"
What a joke.
This country is finished, it is niether a democracy nor a republic anymore, god alone knows what it is.
01:43 PM on 10/18/2009
Snowe's ascendance is not all a result of media hype. President Obama did a whole lot to defer to her in his various speeches.. I'm still mad about that and his praise for Grassley on the day after Grassley made his "pull the plug on grandma" speech. I'm not sure what the president is doing here...seems as if he might throw a few crumbs to the progressives who got him elected and cover his back against a relentless GOP siege.
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Carl Caroli
Give peace a chance
01:03 PM on 10/18/2009
It's all an ugly charade being played out by the democrats to a)say they have bipartisan support, which is a load of nonsense, but more importantly b)a ruse by them to say we gave up the public option to get that bipartisan support, using her as the excuse. It's sad, disgusting and cheapens the whole process by trying to make a big deal out of the nothing that their trying to pull over our eyes. Our representatives, all of them, republicans and democrats alike, are corporate pawns and are using the media to build up the drama and sensationalism to hide the fact they are doing nothing for the actual working people in this country.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
ckfan
Conduct business honestly; spend money wisely
12:44 PM on 10/18/2009
Sorry you're not getting it. Let me try and explain it. MOST people are not following the health care debate as closely as folks inside the beltway, political bloggers or junkies. In between working, driving to and from work, driving their kids around town, etc., the MAJORITY of Americans only hear bits and pieces of what's going on. They are not that well informed. This explains why the GOP has been successful. They're great communicators and they understand that most people are ignorant on the issues. Obama and Axelrod get it.

SO the headline and the sound bites after the bill leaves the finance committee is NOT this: NO REPUBS support health care bill. The headline instead is: health care bill leaves committee with Republican support. Yes, it's just one vote, but most people don't care and they don't put the two together, i.e, only one Repub vote and her vote wasn't needed.

Most people don't even understand how a bill comes into law. So, now, here's the headline and the sound bite: We are closer than we've ever been to real health care reform. It's all about perception and politics.

Quit looking at things from the perspective of someone in the know. It's politics and perception that really matters in any issue. Why else would poor white people, continue to vote for a party that supports big business over working people? A party that doesn't support their interests?
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MrBadger
03:39 PM on 10/18/2009
Exactly! I have someone near and dear who rant at length against his own self interest. I just don't get it.
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FilthyHarry
Expletive Deleted
12:34 PM on 10/18/2009
While the Beltway media is dutifully doing their job hyping the drama, its being created by the Dems, who don't have the spine to pass healthcare reform without at least one repub so they can cower behind the laughably hollow fiction that its bi-partisan, cause they're too cowardly to take ownership.

They don't need Snowe for passage. They want Snowe for cover.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
12:05 PM on 10/18/2009
Honestly, I am a little disappointed that you don't get it. There are 59 senators healthy enough to vote we need 60. There are 8 dem senators who basically are republicans and snowe gives them cover. Until right now we haven't had 60 votes. The reason the President has been willing to reach out is that he needed GOP votes to pass anything.Ted Kennedy was dying all year, that is 59, Byrd is very ill that is 58... so even if we don't do anything else, even if Lieberman doesn't say, get a republican or I won't vote for it, even if Nelson and Conrad and Landrieu and Lincoln don't say the exact same thing (putting us at 53 by the way) the fact that two of a dem votes missed the entire year means that we have to reach across. So anyone one willing to reach across gets enormous power. That is simply game theory and logic. How do you not get that? So if God forbid, 90 year old senator byrd dies tonight, how do we pass anything without Snowe?

J
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AsISaid
12:19 PM on 10/18/2009
Ask any kid who wins if a majority (51) votes one way, and 49 votes go the other way. I'll bet they know. Most Americans do too. In a democracy, the majority rules - unless, of course, you throw in the United States Senate.

Democrats have made Snowe a power because they don't have their own act together. The Democrats have marginalized themselves. Millions were spent and hundreds of thousands of man hours were expended to get Democrats to a filibuster-proof majority of 60. That is what the Democrat leaders in the Senate said they needed. We gave it to them.

Now, they don't know how to handle it. They have been trapped by their own rhetoric in obtaining their super-majority, and have been exposed for the leaderless, waffling, mealy-mouthed politics. It is shameful.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
05:00 PM on 10/18/2009
That would be great if we lived in a democracy... but since we live in a republic, and it isn't majority rule, maybe you should re-read my post. You can pretend that filibusters don't happen, you can dream of a world that is different from the real one I am talking about, you can pretend that the senate is like it is in the movies or tv, but the reality is that the senate is specifically designed to allow for the minority to wield power. So, what are you talking about?
11:25 AM on 10/19/2009
We don't need the eight Dem Senators who are basically Republicans.
We can pass any bill we want in the Senate with 51 votes using a parliamentary procedure called Reconciliation.
So Lieberman and the eight worst Democrats in the Senate can vote against the bill and it still passes.
Snowe is completely irrelevant, and Sirota's post is spot on.