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David Suissa

David Suissa

Posted: July 1, 2010 10:43 PM

Crashing the Party

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I fully expected last week to be kicked out of an activist meeting for a leftist group at a private home in Mar Vista. I wasn't invited, but after hearing about the meeting from a friend, my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to take my chances and go.

I had promised myself that I wouldn't lie if they asked me who I was and where I stood politically. It turns out that was a moot point, because someone quickly said, "Aren't you that guy who writes in The Jewish Journal?" "Yes, I am," I said.

At that moment, with about a dozen peaceniks in their 30s, 40s and 50s looking straight at me in a living room, probably wondering what I was doing there, I said the only thing I could think of that would be honest but still keep them from calling the cops and charging me with trespassing.

"I live in Pico-Robertson," I told them. "Everyone's pretty much right-wing over there. And that's a lot of what I hear, right-wing views. I came tonight because I was curious to hear other views."

Well, wouldn't you know it -- I got smiles all around. It felt like one of those Alcoholics Anonymous meetings where people feel your pain and can't wait to help you.

Maybe they thought I was ready to "convert" to their side? Who knows -- all I know is that they accepted me, and if I could control my Sephardic hothead impulses for a couple of hours, I would be there for the duration.

There were a few things in the invitation that had especially aroused my curiosity, like the word "Jew" in the group's name -- LA Jews for Peace -- and the first item on their agenda, what they called the Freedom Flotilla. A representative of the Free Gaza movement came to brief us on several items related to the flotilla, such as: the origin of the movement, the press bias in favor of Israel, upcoming flotillas, the status of legal action against Israel, planned protests in Los Angeles and so on.

Overall, while there were a few times during the evening when I felt like throwing sharp objects, I managed to escape with my love for Israel and the Jewish people intact. I think two things helped. One, I came in expecting some heavy-duty beating up of Israel (and I got it), and two, most of the people were really nice.

In fact, one of them even came to my defense. There was a moment when one of the presenters was going on and on about Israel's brutal treatment of Palestinians in Gaza. Hoping to inject a little "context," I asked about the thousands of rockets that Hamas had dropped on Israeli civilians for so many years before Israel took military action.

"What do I tell the people in Pico-Robertson when they ask me about the rockets?" I asked.

The presenter had a pat answer. Most of the rockets were cheap and homemade, she said, and, in any event, only three people were killed.

As if feeling my agony, one of the leaders of the group quickly jumped in and said, "That's not a good answer. Dropping rockets on civilians is never right." Of course, he did pull out some graphs to try to make the point that many of the rockets were in response to Israeli aggression. At least his tone was friendly.

That might be the one optimistic thing I took away from the evening -- the tone. No matter how painful the subject and how sure people were, there was no anger or bitterness.

For example, one of the items on the agenda was "Continue Our Study of the Goldstone Report." They do this at every meeting. It's like Bible class. That night, the person in charge took us through chapters 12 and 13. It was gruesome. He handed out pictures of the effects of phosphorous on the human body and described in talmudic detail the types of weapons used by Israel. He said it all with a matter-of-fact tone. There were sad faces all around, but no anger.

I almost jumped in to ask if anyone had read the many critiques of the Goldstone report, but I didn't want to wear out my welcome.

By the time the evening wound down and people started milling around, I could have been at any Jewish event in any Jewish home. I hugged and thanked the hostess (a Sephardic Iraqi) and took plenty of e-mail addresses. Feeling somewhat relieved that the serious part was over, I shmoozed with a writer from the Huffington Post, a self-described anti-Zionist former Communist from Israel, a recent candidate for Congress (Marcy Winograd), a well-known local poet and the woman from the Free Gaza movement.

I was happy and encouraged that the tone of the evening was so respectful. But I couldn't help feeling a little sadness that everyone was so sure of themselves.

As I walked back to my car, I wondered if we were all guilty of the same thing -- meeting only with like-minded people and becoming more and more sure of ourselves.

Add up all those meetings, I thought -- whether in Mar Vista or Pico-Robertson -- and the distance between us only grows. Maybe we ought to crash more of each other's parties -- even if it's only to see each other's faces.

 

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10:00 AM on 07/05/2010
The trick to genuinely participating in debates with people who do not share your point of view is to truly listen and consider - not simply wait them out until it's your turn to talk. Everybody is guilty of the latter at times but you should always shoot for the former when possible. Which is why I go on right wing news sites and blogs (even the Brothers of Judea one, although I cannot recall agreeing with anything on there.) I make no apologies for giving no quarter to the Caroline Glick's of the world but it is possible to at least see where others are coming from a fair amount of the time, even if you completely disagree with their choices and conclusions.
01:59 PM on 07/04/2010
Call me when there is a meeting of Muslims for Peace, or Arabs for Peace. Until then I will mark these good people down as "naive and well meaning". The problems of the middle east won't be solved only by additional peace loving Jews, it will be solved by peace loving Arabs. I'm waiting.
05:23 PM on 07/03/2010
You can meet plenty of anti-Israel activists online. Just read the Huffpo. The advantage of text is that you get a chance to reflect. The disadvantage is that the poor quality of thinking becomes glaringly obvious. And neither side has a monopoly on that.
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05:48 PM on 07/02/2010
Terrific piece. I am surrounded by people with opposing views, I have been this way most of my adult life. I was raised in a family full of racists and bigots which in a way I am incredibly thankful for. They helped me open my eyes to the fact that I don't want to be that way. That I don't want to just listen to those who hold an entirely differently view to mine, but I want to hear them. This is why it bothers me terribly to hear that there are proximity talks rather than face-to-face talks. The least that the Israeli and Palestinian leadership owes to their people is to negotiate in earnest, negotiate honestly respectfully and face-to-face.

Patience, respect, compassion and a desire for a positive outcome will always yield such results.
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03:39 PM on 07/02/2010
You want fireworks.... bring up Iran......
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01:04 PM on 07/02/2010
"a self-described anti-Zionist former Communist from Israel, a recent candidate for Congress (Marcy Winograd), a well-known local poet and the woman from the Free Gaza movement"

Good fellows
08:24 AM on 07/02/2010
"Maybe they thought I was ready to "convert" to their side? Who knows..."

Changing one's political views and stances on specific issues in light of facts and events should never be seen as a "conversion" experience; that is unless one is dogmatic in the first place.

I certainly wouldn't want to crash the parties of some people who post here; not with that level of fanaticism and bigotry.
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01:50 AM on 07/02/2010
"As I walked back to my car, I wondered if we were all guilty of the same thing -- meeting only with like-minded people and becoming more and more sure of ourselves."

I think we are absolutely all guilty of that, which is why I sometimes try to go outside of my comfort zone. I've dated a Muslim Palestinian. One of my close friend's grandparents were kicked out of their home by Israelis in 1948. Another good friend is on the Homeland security watchlist for activities in the West Bank. I have right wing and left wing Zionist friends. I make it a policy to listen and understand, even if I don't agree (although I have no patience for ignorance and rudeness). I have gained so much from other perspectives. Just imagine what kind of world it would be if we all tried to understand the other side and reacted with compassion rather than hostility.
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08:21 AM on 07/02/2010
Of all the problems facing this country, I think our separating ourselves into groups which rarely talk to one another will hurt us more than anything else.

Rachel Maddow talked for several minutes a few days ago about this, saying that talking to people who disagree with you actually helps you to improve the quality of your arguments by point out where they are weak.

Personally, I've always learned more from talking to people I disagree with than people I agree with.
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08:52 AM on 07/02/2010
And that is why you are awesome, courtb.
01:18 AM on 07/02/2010
""I live in Pico-Robertson," I told them. "Everyone's pretty much right-wing over there. And that's a lot of what I hear, right-wing views."

I'll try my best to avoid that area.
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12:39 PM on 07/02/2010
Welcome
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12:41 AM on 07/02/2010
It's shameful that the author seems to treat this whole thing as if it's freaking block party !

Trivilaizing something as serious as the Goldstone Report or the Palestinian suffering has got to be a new low that ANY HUMAN BEING should be ashamed of.

But then what can we expect ?
09:13 AM on 07/02/2010
I think the point of the article was about people like you.
01:12 PM on 07/04/2010
The point of the article was to ignore the facts. Over a million people have been invaded and occupied by Israel, using the same tactics against others that were suffered by them.
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10:43 AM on 07/02/2010
Yeah sometimes I wonder whether we'd be better off selling Tupperware. But US public opinion is probably the biggest factor in the survival of the Palestinian people. This is how it changes.
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11:34 PM on 07/01/2010
so i guess 'thousands' of rockets raining down on israel is a standard: can we get a count of how many thousands or let us say mega tonnes of ammunition israels has dumped on palestinian civilians, i guess the answer would be 'how the hell do we know' so the feeling is pretty much the same: as newton stated 'every action has an equal and opposite reaction', end the occupation and if the rockets continue then complain otherwise just enjoy the fruits of occupation..
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11:02 PM on 07/01/2010
Well that sounds like an interesting anthropologic experience - I wonder if next time you crash the party you can understand what's going on on a slightly deeper level than covered by your handbook of FoxNews/AIPAC talking points and realize that they are way way beyond where you are though they once were where you still attempt to stand now


//As I walked back to my car, I wondered if we were all guilty of the same thing -- meeting only with like-minded people and becoming more and more sure of ourselves.//
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10:49 AM on 07/02/2010
I'm more hopeful. After the second war in Europe it turned out that more than half of all French citizens had been in the Resistance. Funny, it didn't look that way before 1945.

Folks like David Suissa pick the winning side. But they have to get their toes in the water early because it's a long way across.