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Do You Date Age-Appropriately?

Posted: 10/28/10 09:44 AM ET

I was having breakfast the other day with a friend who was giving dating advice to his son. For purposes of his anonymity, I am going to call just call him "Son."

My friend said, "Son, you're 18 years old, so I am going to tell you how you date. Since you are 18 years old, you are allowed to date a woman half your age plus seven." Son looked at him and said, "Alright, Dad. You're 50, so that means you can date a woman who is 32. And that means I can date a woman who is 16."

From where did this ridiculous rule come? You can date someone as young as half your age plus seven years? It's so male-skewed that it's ridiculous.

It's no wonder that so many women feel that men their own age are too immature. It's because of this urban legend that has gone around forever.

Based upon this rule, the only time that a man can date a woman his own age is when he's 14 years old (because half of 14 is seven, and seven plus seven is 14). So the ripe old age of 14 -- the age when you still have pimples, are as insecure as can be and are unlikely to get anything more than a kiss from a woman your own age -- is the only time when you can enjoy dating a woman your own age?

What about if your 10-year-old looks at you and says, "I'm ready to date, Dad"? Do you say, "No problem. Half your age is five. Add seven to that, so you can date a 12-year-old -- an older woman"? There is so much a 12-year-old can teach a 10-year-old -- advanced coloring, advanced texting, and so many other important life skills.

Then you get a little older. You're 20 years old and, under this rule, you can date a 17-year-old. Great! There you are in college, and you get to go back to high school again to find a girlfriend.

When you're 25, you can date a 19-and-a-half-year-old. So there you are in the working world for the last three years, and now you can date sophomores in college. You can go back to attending frat parties and having people throw up on you.

When you're 30, you can date a 22-year-old. That's exactly where you want to be. You have been out in the business world for eight years, and you want to be dating a girl fresh out of college? Do you really want to date someone who hasn't actually had a real job yet and is still going out and drinking like a college student?

When you're 35, you can date a 24-and-a-half-year-old woman. Now you're dating someone 11 years younger than you. Your friends are going to be really impressed that you can date a younger woman.

When you're 40, you can date a woman who is 27 years old. All right. So now she seems like an older woman, at least. She's been around the block a bit, but she's still not a luscious, incredible woman over the age of 30 yet. Under this formula, you can't even date a woman over the age of 30 until you have hit 46.

At 46, you can finally date a woman who is 30. That's when women start to hit their sexual peak. So at 46, you finally get to have incredible sex with a beautiful, mature woman -- but you have to wait 46 years to do it, according to this urban legend.

When you're 50, you can date a 32-year-old woman. That makes sense, considering the fact that an 18-year age difference is something to which you should really be accustomed.

At 60 you can date a woman who is 37. At 70 you can date a woman who is 42. Wow, at 70, the 42-year-olds are probably some of your daughter's friends from high school who grew up hanging out at your house and who have now gone through divorces. So finally, after all these years, you can actually date the kids you knew when they were kids.

At 80 you can date a woman who is 47. That's exactly what women are looking for at that age. They would love to hang out with an 80-year-old guy. Here they are, still looking great, young and fantastic, and there you are with your skin sagging everywhere. Half the time you can't even get out of bed without feeling pain, but thanks to Cialis, you're always ready to go.

So how convenient is this rule for men? And why can't women institute this rule? Why can't they go younger?

When women date younger men, they are called "cougars," and people say they are messing around with younger guys. There is a negative connotation to a woman dating a younger man.

As a man, though, you are congratulated if you are 80 years old and dating a woman who is 47 years old.

Come on, guys. It's insane how ridiculous these rules are.

Maybe try dating people who are within seven years of your age -- on either side. If you are 40 years old, try dating women who are between 33 and 47 years old. You might learn something instead of always being the guy who has to teach.

 

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I was having breakfast the other day with a friend who was giving dating advice to his son. For purposes of his anonymity, I am going to call just call him "Son." My friend said, "Son, you're 18 yea...
I was having breakfast the other day with a friend who was giving dating advice to his son. For purposes of his anonymity, I am going to call just call him "Son." My friend said, "Son, you're 18 yea...
 
 
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Chris Cody
12:42 AM on 11/10/2010
I agree with the author, the rule is stupid, drop the add 7 and date half your age :)
10:40 PM on 11/09/2010
I'm surprised by the number of commenters who have never heard this rule before, you guys gotta get out more. Personally however, its a stupid rule. I think that women who date younger men have lost some of the negative vibes, they have a hit TV show called 'Cougartown', hello?!?!?. In fact, I would argue that "cougars" are actually looked at with admiration, kind of makes me feel sorry for the young girls.

For the record a cougar is ANY woman who dates a man 10 years younger or more. So you 30 year olds buying beer for your boyfriend because he can't, yep welcome to Cougarville sunshine.

The dating rule of thumb for anyone is 7 years in either direction, anything more than that and it just starts getting gross.
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thecoffeegod
10:03 AM on 11/09/2010
My husband was 15 years younger than me. Did I break a rule? Not that I care, I'm just curious.
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10:42 PM on 11/08/2010
Um , "dated" 25 year old (43) and now in relationship with a 58 year old. Broad spectrum , couldn't trade the wisdom my man has accumulated . It does bother me sometimes . If only because in my cougar days I said I would never escort an older man into his dotage .
Ketchup with that plate of crow mam ???
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09:56 PM on 11/01/2010
I'm almost 60 and I've never heard that "rule" before. Hmmm, I think I might like it. 37 is about the age MOST males start to lose their youthful good looks. People think I'm in my early 40s and I've always liked younger men, so okay! I'll keep this formula in mind.

What's good for the gander must also be good for the goose.

Thanks!
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Robert Meek
02:02 PM on 11/09/2010
I'm 53 and I never heard of it before, either. I am wondering from whence the author gets their source.
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03:39 AM on 11/01/2010
Something I've always found disturbing is when a person dates someone who is the same age as their children. I don't think I could do that. It just seems so wrong.
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Liz Patrick
03:15 AM on 11/09/2010
My fiance's dad is dating a woman younger than BOTH of my Parents and his oldest son. He's a year younger than my grandmother. It's so confusing.
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
12:31 AM on 10/31/2010
Well, when I was 24 I dated a girl who was 21 and another who was 18. Wound up marrying the older one a couple of years later. Still with her 27 years later.

I wouldn't want to get back into the dating scene. It would scare me terribly. I am content with my wife. Our marriage isn't perfect, but we love each other and we are reasonably happy.

The younger one said her dad thought I was "too old" for her. Later on, her dad changed his mind (too late! I had gotten married!) and said I'd have been better for her than who she eventually got married to. But I do think I got the best for me. I want it to last forever.

So while I know I am not one of your target audience, I am piping up to say that if you intend with all your heart to be good to the one you are with, age might not matter so much.
11:17 AM on 10/29/2010
I was really hoping there would be tons of comments from men about how they have changed this rule and will now date near their age. That was hope; the reality is clear. Men want much younger women and that is that. I totally accept this. It is my married friends who are most astounded by this fact and are shocked that I can't get a date near my age.
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10:05 PM on 11/01/2010
Hi ColumbiaPatricia. We've already discussed men our age. Join me in a campaign to adopt this "male" rule. I'll start dating 37year olds. I will miss having the cultural milestones in common, but some of them do prefer the rock music from the '60s & '70s, especially if they are musicians, which I've always been partial to anyway.

*chuckle*
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Shaun Hensley
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11:57 PM on 11/08/2010
Guys can be insecure about a woman's experience. I know I am. I've pretty much given up on the idea of meeting someone my age with a similar level of experience. I can't help but think that if a woman hasn't found a lover that pleases them enough to settle down with, they never will.
07:08 AM on 10/29/2010
date who ever you want for cryin out loud! This country is sooooo hung up on age limits. If you love someone and they love you or if your attracted to someone and its mutual than what difference does age make. We should stop fixating and judging people who decide to date out of the so called age parameters.
12:27 AM on 11/01/2010
amen!!
03:06 AM on 10/29/2010
:)
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04:17 PM on 10/28/2010
Well, good thing I never got that memo, neither did my ex-husband or any of the other men I've dated. I have always dated younger men. I tried dating a couple of men that were a year or two older than me but it just wasn't right for me. I've been in one serious relationship with a man 18 years younger (I was 40 he was 22) that was actually great for longer than I would have ever thought it would be. My point is that I don't care what other people have to say, I will date whomever I please. Men should, also. Age is just a number, folks.
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01:52 PM on 10/28/2010
The first time I heard about this rule was watching "Malcolm X" and at the time I was 19 and my boyfriend was 24. i could see him doing the math in his head and he was like wow, according to this rule we are perfect for each other. LOL not so much.
12:48 PM on 10/28/2010
It would be nice to date someone near 51 not 75-80 but that is all I get now. I'm not ready for 75 so I just don't date. I could have sex with much younger men but I'm not into casual relationships. But at least with a younger man they think I am attractive and sexy while guys my age think I'm over the hill.
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CMB1969
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10:17 AM on 10/28/2010
Uh, I have always understood that the "half your age + 7" formula was a rule of thumb guideline for the minimum age of woman that a man should consider dating. If a man gravitates towards dating women his own age, the rule is irrelevant. If a man does gravitate towards younger women, it give a good guideline for where he is passing into "creepy" territory.
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Majestry
12:40 PM on 10/28/2010
Yep.
02:17 PM on 11/01/2010
That was always my understanding also. In his article, the author has apparently misinterpreted the phrase "you're allowed to" as "you must". I've never, EVER heard the "half plus 7" guideline applied that that way and society as a whole CLEARLY doesn't apply it that way either. The fact that this article was written by a person who identifies himself as an "internationally-renowned dating and relationship coach, and author" is shocking and certainly makes me suspicious of his credentials.
09:16 AM on 10/28/2010
You might want to go back to your friend and ask how the rule actually works. I don't know your friend, of course, but it seems more likely that the rule gives a minimum rather than an actual age.

Anyone who restricted dating to a precise age, and one that receded from his own age over time, would be severely limiting his dating possibilities.

That is not to say that with the proper understanding the rule is not still silly. But telling an 18 year old that he should not date someone younger than 16 is not a bad thing. Historically men have dated women who are even younger.