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Davis Guggenheim

Davis Guggenheim

Posted: November 15, 2010 01:29 PM

Teachers: Tell Me What You Think

What's Your Reaction:

My favorite thing is to hear from a teacher who's seen Waiting for "Superman". Teachers live it everyday so they get it -- the good and the bad. And I am moved by all the reactions: the emotion, the criticism, the longing to help the kids in my documentary. Hearing this means the movie is working: the conversation is getting wider, bigger, deeper.

We want even more people to join the conversation, and we especially want to hear from teachers, so this week, the film's distributor is announcing that theater owners are offering teachers who show their credentials at the box office the chance to buy tickets to Waiting for "Superman" at a reduced rate.

The roots of my passion for this for this comes from my love of great teachers -- that was the subject of my very first doc called The First Year. If you haven't seen it, it's about the heroic struggles of passionate teachers. It was the experience of meeting these amazing teachers, and being so inspired by their commitment that made me care so much about public education. I promised myself that if I ever got the chance to make another film about education, I'd talk as honestly as I could about a system that makes it so hard for teachers and the kids they are trying to serve.

At the heart of Waiting for "Superman" are five kids whose lives are at stake. For Anthony, Fransisco, Daisy, Emily and Bianca, they don't care what kind of public school they go to -- they just want it to be great. And they can't understand why we as a country can't deliver for them what every kid in America deserves -- a great education.

So please add your voice to the many others like me who believe every child in America deserves a great education. Send this note to all the teacher you know and tell them they can see Waiting for "Superman" this week at a reduced ticket price.

This film has sparked a lot of conversation, debate and even some disagreement. And that's exactly what we were hoping for. See the film for yourself and then tell me what you think -- leave me a note in the comments below or on our Facebook page.

I look forward to hearing from you.

 
 
 
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08:28 PM on 01/06/2011
And the root "root" cause is a society which will not enact the "Dream Act'. When California passed it's laws "denying equal access" to higher education, one of my top undocumented Algebra 2 students said, "So why am I doing all this now?", meaning, trying to excel in her education. I replied, "So you will be ready when "things" change". That was 15 years ago. Until we as a nation are willing to pay a "just" price for our food and clothing, and start sharing the "common wealth" of this earth, we will be viewed as the "economic terrorists" that we truly are today. by a fellow Pathfinder Jan 2011
12:39 PM on 12/20/2010
Some want our public schools to fail so they can justify privatizing the schools for profit. They are wrong.

I've seen both sides. Teachers in public schools do heroic things with remarkably little support. Make those private schools teach the hard to teach kids, too, those with learning disabilities, behavior issues, poverty, watch them confront the same struggles our public school teachers face every day, then we'll have something to compare. Dedicated teachers who taught my kids contended with disruptive students, some who often ate only school lunch all day. They used their own money for supplies, hung in there through long hours -- way after the final bell has rung they are still working -- and very few parents offered to lend a hand. But they did a fabulous job. I will be forever grateful to the amazing men and women who helped my children grow into the people they are today.

I went to private Catholic schools but escaped in 8th grade. I must say, when I got into our neighborhood public school, I was dumber than dirt compared to those kids. Ignorant about Science, History, Geography, Math, etc., but boy could I quote Catechism. Turns out I was a really smart kid. My private schools cheated me out of an early education. Took many years to begin to catch up and overcome those wasted years. "Private" does not mean "better."
06:49 PM on 12/03/2010
Well, Mr. Guggenheim -- you said your favorite thing was to hear from teachers. The voices here are quite loud and clear. Do you have a response?
10:30 PM on 12/02/2010
Even if Davis Guggenheim didn't do a lot of research into what it's like to be a teacher, he has gotten a taste of our experience; he has been lambasted on his blog. After having one of your movies picked apart by teachers. Diane Ravitch and more, imagine, Mr. Guggenheim, what it is like, to have your whole carreer dismissed by people such as yourself -by people who consider themselves experts on your profession, but have no experience or education in the field. You told us what you really thought, and we have returned the favor. Got anything to say? I hope you haven't given up reading. We've endured years of scapegoating now, even had our names released by the Los Angeles Times as "least effective teachers" for anyone who has ever known us to see, and we're still standing. Do you think you'd have the stomach for our business? To listen to all the hatred for a top price of 70K per year?
02:52 PM on 11/30/2010
Although I have chosen to send my own children to a public school, I am guilty of choosing a "better" school than that in which I currently teach. The children in my current school come from low socioeconomic backgrounds, have no preschool experiences, and have no basic academic or social skills upon entering kindergarten. My daughters have two full years of preschool and are growing up in a print-rich environment in which literacy and academic achievment are emphasized. My colleagues who teach kindergarten at my school consider it a successful day if no one eats a crayon, hits another student, or rips a book apart. My own children have entered school AT LEAST 3 years ahead of these students in terms of social skills and academics. And just getting rid of "bad teachers" will alleviate this problem?? This is what teachers are dealing with. We can't go into the homes of these children and force their parents to read to them. We can't force parents to teach the values of hard work, discipline, cooperation, and other social skills that allow for success in school.

The "achievement gap" in so-called low performing schools doesn't just magically appear because the system is full of bad teachers who can't teach reading and math. It starts much, much earlier and is far more complex than that, and we're doing the best we can with the kids who come to us. As other have stated, we need to deal with the disease - poverty.
11:19 PM on 11/26/2010
I am a retired teacher of 35 years at primarily "at risk" schools.My last 16 years were in Vermilion Parish, Louisiana.I was in a small country school that had an equal percentage of whites from the country and blacks from the poorest part of the local city.This was the best school throughout my career of teaching.Why?They had hardworking teachers, a good supervisor of curriculum, and excellent staff development.But what was the major difference between this school and all the others--low pupil teacher ratio.My last four years with the No Child Left Program, we wrote grants and started an intervention program with our students.The parish progressed to 6th in the state with our test scores.We were hit by two hurricanes within four years, thus closing the smaller schools and making the other schools' class numbers rise.The program was still doing fairly well. But the parish is facing major budget cuts from the state and losing teachers. What will happen with the program and our progress? Only time will tell. But through my many years teaching, I have seen many miracle cures that have failed, because teacher input was missing. Am I skeptical of this new program, you bet I am.I have seen a successful school system and have listed the reason why it was successful. Could it fail, of course, because someone outside of the school system is going to alter the reasons that our program succeeded.
09:39 PM on 11/20/2010
I am a teacher in Philadelphia, and I have made a choice each year to continue teaching in charter schools because they ARE better than the average neighborhood school in Philadelphia.

My main concern, however, is that our current discussion ignores the responsibility that parents and the students themselves need to be taking for their own education. As a country, we believe that we should have all the advantages of a good education without actually working for it. Americans do not value education, they value football. We spend our weekends watching sports on TV or going shopping, not reading and going to museums. Our choices speak volumes, and those choices rub off on our kids. Those same kids with those same values come to school, and you expect the teachers to do the job of instilling the values and work ethic that you don't have as a parent? It's unfair. Asian and European students aren't kicking our butt in math because their schools are better, they're beating us because their VALUES are better.
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12:48 PM on 11/20/2010
In addition to its other problems, on full display in these comments, WFS is not a very good film, from a movie-making standpoint.

"Waiting for Superman" hand-selects darling minority children as stars then stacks the deck against them in the narrative by slanting the data presented and suggesting that charter schools are the answer to "our nation's failing public schools." There is no demonstration of how "all" public schools are failing, no vignettes of instruction or interaction in actual schools (either public or charter). Just the assertion that charters (which serve 4% of our nation's kids) are where poor kids--who can't afford private schools--ought to be, and some cheesy cartoon clips and recycled footage of idiotic teenagers as "evidence."

"Superman" is documentary film-making of the worst kind: unbalanced, unsubstantiated, edited from a single perspective and forced to seek viewership by offering discounted tickets. Guggenheim's claim that unions have soured teachers on the film is specious.

I saw the film at full price, in a packed theater in Ann Arbor, Michigan--and heard people in the audience gasping and sniggering at some of the broad-brush claims made in the movie. If people aren't attending screenings, it may be because it's simply not a very good movie.
10:59 PM on 11/22/2010
Wow! That's rich. This guy is actually blaming the unions because teachers don't like his movie? Sheesh, this is scapegoating on steroids. Talk about a lack of accountability; Guggenheim wouldn't make it two weeks in teaching.
10:56 AM on 11/20/2010
Waiting for Superman, huh. Keep waiting Guggenheim, because you're obviously not looking hard enough. There are supermen and women all over this country commited to educating their students as best they can every day. But you declined to... talk with any of them in your movie about them. While I found many things to think about and consider in this heated debate about education these days, the movie fell flat for me. You blew it. With all your talent it was a missed opportunity to really figure out what is going on and see the reality.

Sure, you have a different background than most Americans in this debate. You came at this issue motivated by your liberal guilt, aggravated daily by your drive past public schools to the private school that will save your children somehow. But, the people you worked with on this film have different motivations. Some are motivated by radical notions to completely dismantle public ed and eliminate any government-provided education. Some are plainly motivated by profit, hoping to take advantage of the vast resources America commits to its public education ideal and try to make some money off it with special business model "efficiencies" and reduced overhead (read teacher salaries).

If we are supposed to question the very idea of public education with this film, then we're not really dealing with issues of reform any more so your film becomes ineffective as a reform tool.
10:08 AM on 11/20/2010
When WfS was released last September, Rethinking Schools initiated a campaign to talk back to the film on FB and at www.NOTwaitingforsuperman.org Thousands of teachers, parents and activists responded. The website has archived over 100 articles, commentaries, reviews and analyses responding to the film's inaccuracies and distortion of issues. It also includes lists of alternative films, discussions of the reforms we really need, and a well-researched report on the "money trail" behind the film's intervention on the wrong side of an increasingly polarized national debate over education policy:
www.NOTwaitingforsuperman.org or "NOT Waiting for Superman" on Facebook....
07:49 AM on 11/20/2010
Mr. G: my review was published in Pittsburgh, check it out: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10297/1097349-109.stm I agree with everything said in the movie, BUT you skipped what I consider the #1 problem. The type of student featured has what it takes to succeed, KIPP calls it the three D's: Desire, Discipline, and Determination. But the students falling through the cracks, dropping out, causing disruptions, creating unsafe environments for others, don't have this essential, intrinsic motivation. The Three Ds must be in place for learning to occur.

Who's job was it to put the three Ds in place in a child's life to prepare them for learning? THEIR PARENTS. (OMG did she really say that out loud???) Yes - from birth, parents must model and teach their child right-thinking and right-living. I see children everyday who are D-less. Even worse, instead they have had modeled for them the Three Rs: Rudeness, Rage, and Revenge.

New teacher training programs on this or that technique are amazing, BRAVO! Better facilities, installing Smart Boards, giving computers to all students, YEAH! Free breakfast, extended learning days, YES! But these things are like having the Emporer (Public Education) march through the streets donning a fancy feathered hat; a velvet, hand-embroidered jacket; draped in scarves yet still wearing no pants.

When and where is the next teacher-training program on how to turn a child who comes to school D-less into a Student. Sign me up.
10:14 AM on 11/20/2010
Great review for P-G. Thanks for sharing.
02:56 PM on 11/20/2010
Well said, but it's emperor, not emporer...
10:32 PM on 11/19/2010
check this out!! we're making some headway:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/anthony-cody/teachers-give-superman-directo.html
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Educational Reformers need to be "Reformed."
03:44 PM on 11/26/2010
I love Valerie Strauss. I think that she is to Education what Woodword and Berstein were to Watergate.
08:59 PM on 11/19/2010
You will fall on the wrong side of history. If this charter movement takes tighter hold, more schools will be privatized and run for a profit. The poorest neighborhoods will be robbed blind by big business charter schools who take the average daily attendance money, underpay and overwork young teachers, in order to pay the rest to their top dogs. If corporations were so interested in great schools,they would pay taxes and fund a great society. You appear to be an enemy of labor. You might want to watch an actual documentary, made by people with probing intellect, called "The End of Poverty?" and ask yourself if you really believe that corporations have poor children's interest at heart - over those of us teachers who have lived very modest existences and given our hearts to do the job right. Poor children will be burned at the hands of this charter movement and this test score nonsense, which pushes a type of education that no affluent person would ever subject their children to. You so completely dramatized/staged “reality” in this movie that it caused me to question "An Inconvenient Truth." However, unlike this movie, "An Inconvenient Truth" has actual research and science on its side. This was not a documentary but an often staged piece of reality t.v.
03:01 PM on 11/20/2010
I would add that in An Inconvenient Truth, the filmmaker produced the work of someone else for the big screen: Al Gore. It was Al Gore's insights, research and reasoning that was presented. In WFS, the filmmaker presumably did his own research and reasoning, and slanted it toward those who paid his way.
07:53 PM on 11/19/2010
After you posted this blog, I decided to see if WFS was showing in my area. It was, and I drove to a theater in my neighborhood to see it.

As a retiree having spent 40 years in education, I’m fairly knowledgeable of education issues. I must say, I could not have believed, without seeing for myself, that so much misinformation and distortion could have been packaged in an hour-and-45-minute presentation. I’ve never viewed a stronger propaganda piece.

Unfortunately, your movie is having a serious impact. I’ve never experienced such hostility toward teachers as I’ve read and seen during the past two months, and much of it is attributed to or associated with WFS.
04:10 PM on 11/19/2010
I teach at a charter school, but am the first to say that isn't THE answer by any means. It's one way out of many to provide an edcuation with failures and successes just like any other education institution, private included. To hold up Charters as the One True Answer to all our problems is naive and uninformed.

What I like at the charter is the sense of accountability which is important to me as an educator. But even with that I still need to have a system of job security so I'm not suddenly thrown without any due process on the street trying to find a way to support my children. I'm all for accountability. But, the film promotes it as the answer without even exploring how this would work. Tenure is problematic, but so is a profesional at the mercy of capricious administrators. In this case, we should look at proven reforms and successful accountability without throwing out the whole system at once. Maybe even, instead of beating up teachers more, we can look at why administrators can't do their job to document, evaluate, and actually conduct the due process that exists already to deal with ineffective or unprofessional educators. It is possible even, that while there are very public illustrations of unbelievable incompetence and unprofessional behavior, there might be thousands of cases that are handled quietly and effectively by adminstrators. Wouldn't that be an interesting question to explore in this film.