Simple Question for the Past Three Guys in the Big Chair in the White House
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How do you think your life -- and society in general -- would have benefited if, during your admitted past drug use, you were subject to the same criminal penalties as other Americans?
(Or, if your fig leaf is "I was in England, man!," then replace the last two words with "...other citizens of the selected-drug-hysteric country where you toked, snorted, gobbled magic mushrooms, or whatever.")
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i thought the President was an admirer of Lincoln. i guess he missed this, while studying him:
"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts
to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime
out of things that are not crimes."
Abraham Lincoln
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"A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which
our government was founded."
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Is there an American rule book somewhere that defines freedom.. Because while this is a great country to live in.. It isn't the land of the FREE.. Though I will give it up to all our BRAVE soldiers..
For all the anti-legalization people out there I have just one hope for you, I hope the child molesters and the rapists and the violent felons who are being released early so they can make room for people convicted of growing or selling pot, I hope you never meet those people in a dark ally.
Because I will take the pothead in the dark alley any day of the week.
of all the issues the President is dealing with making it easier for you stoners is not a 'high' priority.
"With over 1 out of 30 Americans controlled by the penal system, why not legalize, control, and tax marijuana to change the failed war on drugs into a money making, money saving boost to the economy? Do we really need that many victimless criminals?"
This was the question asked and the response by President Obama skirted the issue. As far as your comment, is it also NOT a priority to put an end to 72 years of documented failure? The drug war is not working, quite the contrary. It is the problem. As far as cannabis not being able to provide jobs and revenue are alsdo false. The same government also keeps telling us that cannabis ius the largest cash crop in the US and that argument is a welcome one when it comes to special interests and the prison business asking to ratchet up this idiotic failure. Cannabis is here to stay and the time for reform is now. Not another seven decades of waste and failure from now.
no he didn't just because you disagree with his answer.
Making it "easier" for us stoners? Your ignorance concerning this issue is pretty much summed up in your moronic statement.
Any other pearls of wisdom you can fit in one line?
Idiot
Jake, try smoking some pot. Might make you smarter.
You mean he'll think he's smarter. Pot doesn't make you smarter.
How about making breathing a felony? Then we could arrest anyone who didn't agree with us and throw them in jail, torture them and put them in penal labor camps if they survived.
Actually, we now make a common behavior a crime, and lo and behold! A lot of black center city youths get rounded up, are labeled with a criminal record, are denied employment and can't vote to change the system.
We even make using cocaine a much less severe crime than smoking crack, so the penalties are less severe in the suburbs than in the city.
If everyone that ever smoked pot or tried cocaine was prosecuted, our courts would be way overloaded. Bush got caught and it was mysteriously wiped from his record. Obama, like most college students, never got caught. If he were using drugs now or in the recent past, it would be an entirely different issue. Our marijuana laws are silly and in my state it has been a misdemeanor for a very long time. If our presidents were prosecuted, then so should at least a quarter of the population of the US over 30.
Our jails are overloaded now because of this war on drugs. Legalize it and release all of the non violent drug offenders we are housing and keeping from their families.
Not to mention the expenditure of $30,000 to $45,000 per year to pay for the incarceration of these people (mostly people pf color). Jails and prisons are crammed with twice as many or more people than they were designed to hold. Shameful!!
Why is this issue so important? The U.S. is in the middle of a monetary financial derivative debt based global economic collapse. We need every brain in the game of survival. Do we need pot legalized now? Do you see the consumer brain deficiencies in terms of perspective, priorities, focus, the tunnel vision, the absolute commitment to get high while the debt based economic engine is contracting the population's capacity to sustain itself. Hypocrite? It would be wrong to promote a consumption and/or a lifestyle that has unrealized repercussions: it is injurious to the user, family, community, general health, the economy etc.
ck, r u talking about bill gates and his ilk?
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Are you saying that these people can't do several things at a time? It would take less effort to legalize than it took to pass TARP. You don't give these people much credit. We pay them enough to do more than one thing at a time. They aren't republicans after all.
People are going to get high no matter what the dept based economic engine is doing. So legalize it and take advantage of it. There are no good arguments not to. It is only injurious to the user, family, comunity, general health, the economy ect. because it is illegal. You arguments are not based on fact.
There are good reasons not to legalize pot, not to mention other harder drugs. We already have enough trouble due to alcohol, we don't need even more goofs running around mentally impaired. My family has already been impacted by a drunk driver. Face it, too many humans can't handle drugs in a responsible manner. Sure there will always be some drinkers and drug users who function and even excel in life. But for every one of them there is a crowd of losers, who not only bring down themselves, but the people around them.
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Cannabis doesn't make you stupid, being stupid makes you stupid.
Seriously, with respect, you have absolutely no understanding of this issue. You're just spewing lies that you heard somewhere. Take some time to educate yourself because essentially everything you said was 100% backward.
This is why we call Clinton, Obama, and the rest hypocrites.
(Meanwhile, Obama is huffing the nicotine.)
Not to mention Wednesday night "Drinks" he invites all of the important people over for!!!
Not to mention GW and his cocaine use?
Well, if it was Bush pere et fils who were thrown in the slammer for 30-odd years, the entire world would be a lot better off right now!
Ah the delusional pot head. Hey man you did it!!! Yeah when I was young and dumb and gonna live for ever. Say there pot man do you hope your planes pilot smokes, or train operators who hall chemicals that could wipe out city blocks, or the mid wife who delvers your child into the world, or the health inspector who checks your meat and bread. You know it's not a high it's actually flying low. It's depressing pain and heart rate, blood flow. It's a God given drug for pain. Your not up your down. And the desirer? Well thats the illusion that your really cool or better stoned, your not!
Talk about delusional.
I don't want any of those people drinking either, but that's no reason to imprison people who consume alchohol.
I'm not allowed to fly within 8 hours of drinking alcohol or while taking most over-the-counter cold medications either.
If pot were legal that doesn't mean that airline pilots would be smoking it on the job. It would presumably be regulated just like other mild depressants (alcohol).
12 hours toke to yoke is how i was taught.
Slowtono, dude, if YOU'RE going to lecture people, at least do so with proper spelling and punctuation, or stop taking the high-and-mighty ground.
It's not "Your not up..."
It's "You're not up...."
Even a stoner proofreader knows that.
Oh, also, an apostrophe in "that's."
Foolish comment.
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Obama and Clinton on Drugs: Just Say No. . . Sometimes?
We have now had two Presidents in a row, who used drugs and if they had been caught and tried and convicted would have had a felony conviction which undoubtedly would have precluded their election as President. I like Pres. Obama but it is hypocritical for him to answer as he did when he is President and many no less innocent than he is are in prison or have a criminal record.
posted Mar 27, 2009 at 17:24:26
I posted this on Huffpost yesterday. Do I deserve a nod?
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Nod.
See Davis Sweet's Profile
Nod. Good on you.
No nod from here. Sure, the drug trade is a very bad thing, but Obama admitted to doing cocaine in college. That was over 20 years ago and possession or use should never have been a felony in the first place.
Why do Americans need the Government and police to solve a Health Issue? Whether there is benefit
to certain drugs,or they create an addiction, that needs the use of Health Services, cops, courts and
Politicians have vested interests not always the same as an individuals.
The fact that people think Urban users are street people who need to go to jail, and Suburban people with better lawyers are just self medicating and need a Vacation shows uneqaul treatment by justice system.
I'm tired of hearing that politicians have vested interests. While in office the only interests they are entiteled to are ours! Just because special interest are running the show does not mean we have to obey the machine and follow like sheep. It is time that we the people demand that our interests and not those of big pharma, the often privately operated yet tax payer funded Prison Industrial Komplex, the correction workers unions, the police unions or the media that choses to pander to the aforementioned. Have 72 years of utter failure taught the voters nothing?
Just an idea-
What about a defense fund (NORML could do it maybe) that people can donate to a la barackobam
If prosecutors knew they were going to consistently face top lawyers and likely lose a much higher % of their cases, they and the police will have to stop wasting resources on it.
Obama's refusal to follow the science here is very disappointing.
Obama is very quickly losing his chance to be more than a Clinton caliber president.
The President said it himself...
I find comments like yours SO perplexing.
It would be political suicide . . . but apparently it is the #1 most important issue in the minds of a majority of his supporters . . . and it would greatly help the economy if he legalized it because it is the #1 cash crop in America . . .
It seems like some people stay stuck in a political tarpit of their own making.
Great idea imo!
To show support for the status quo and "not send the wrong message", Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama should all turn themselves in. While they're at it, maybe they should recruit Newt Gingrich, Mayor Mike Bloomberg, John Kerry, and Al Gore to join them. Check out www.veryim
G. W. Bush has never said publicly that he used illegal drugs. Many of the stories about his alleged drug use are demonstrably false.
Right on count one. Wrong on count two. In taped conversations with an old friend that were made public, W said that he didn't respond to questions of whether or not he toked because, "If children knew that the President smoked pot, they might think it was OK for them". Sounds like an admission to me.
Protocol says that private conversations with the president are not to be quoted,
so taping the president, presumably secretly, is not something that a "friend" would do.
Right on count one, wrong on count two. In taped conversations with an old friend, (who apparently is no longer considered a friend), W said that he never responded to questions concerning whether or not he ever smoked pot because, "If children knew that the President smoked pot, they might think it was OK for them". Sounds like an admission to me. If the answer was no, he could have just said so. And of course, it's a matter of record that he got at least one DWI in the 1970's. Dude, do you know how drunk you had to be to get a DWI in the 1970's?
George W Bush is a frat boy, and when he was in college, cocaine and marijuana use were rampant among frat boys in colleges across America. Yale was no exception.
So, chances are that John F. Kerry (whose tenure at Yale overlapped GWB's) was a pot and coke user? I don't recall him being asked.
from wiki: “I wouldn’t answer the marijuana questions,” Bush says. “You know why? Because I don’t want some little kid doing what I tried.”[15
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