PHOENIX--Lawmakers, union leaders, human rights groups, Democratic Party leaders, and celebrities are taking on the "Toughest Sheriff in America" for policies that they say encourage racial profiling, civil rights violations, and other abuses.
Last week, four Democratic members of the Congressional House Judiciary Committee, Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY), and Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA) sent a letter to DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder requesting an investigation into whether MCSO has engaged in racial profiling or violated other civil rights in the course of its immigration enforcement efforts under 287(g). This week, the Arizona Latino Legislative Caucus made similar requests to DHS and the U.S. Attorney General's Office.
Sheriff Arpaio has had consistently high approval ratings among his constituents throughout his 15 years as Maricopa County Sheriff, but he has also been a well-known and controversial figure across the country throughout his terms. Arpaio is most famous for his Tent City Jail where, in efforts to save costs, a couple thousand county inmates are housed year-round in surplus military tents, fed baloney sandwiches twice per day, shackled in pink handcuffs, and dressed in old-fashioned black-and-white striped uniforms and pink boxer shorts. With a cost of only 15 cents per meal, the infamous Tent City Jail meals are touted on the Maricopa County Sheriff Office (MCSO) website as "the cheapest meals in the U.S."
Arpaio has also been denounced for using volunteer "chain gangs" and marching large groups of inmates through public streets to transfer them from one facility to another. Arpaio has even appeared in his own Fox television reality show, "Smile... You're Under Arrest!"
The most tendentious imputations to Arpaio, however, stem from an agreement between the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) under 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. The 287(g) provision allows federally trained and supervised state and local law enforcement officials to investigate, apprehend, transport, and detain people who are living and working in the country without authorization.
According to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), there are currently 67 state and local law enforcement agencies have 287(g) agreements with DHS, and with 160 officers, Arpaio has the largest contingent of 287(g) officers in the country. His critics charge that abuses by Arpaio's 287(g) officers have left entire local communities, including U.S. citizens, feeling "under siege." Those critics believe that the abuses are systematic and stem directly from policies and procedures enacted by Arpaio under 287(g) that encourage racial profiling and civil rights violations of the immigrants and communities targeted for enforcement.
In April 2008, then U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey was also asked to investigate similar charges of racial discrimination after Jessica Rodriguez, a high level staffer of Mayor Phil Gordon, believed that her husband was illegally targeted during a traffic stop by MCSO when six cars made an illegal u-turn but only her Hispanic husband was stopped, ticketed, and asked for proof of citizenship). Rodriguez has an ongoing lawsuit against MCSO related to the incident.
Gordon has also criticized Arpaio's neighborhood "sweeps" as heavy-handed, but Arpaio insists that overwhelming force is necessary when officers enter gang-infested neighborhoods. MCSO has used SWAT teams and helicopters when conducting what Arpaio calls "saturation raids," which target neighborhoods or businesses and are aimed at both hard criminals and illegal laborers.
The 287(g) program has rules in place to prevent racial profiling and to ensure that civil rights are not violated, but Arpaio's detractors say that his policies do not comply with those rules. For example, when conducting certain types of operations in areas heavily populated by minorities, the federal government requires the officers to have compelling evidence that crime is taking place, but Arpaio's critics believe that race is MCSO's primary criteria for targeting a community or business.
Lofgren says,
Latino members of the community are considered "undocumented" [by MCSO] until proven otherwise.
A 152 page report (PDF) released Wednesday by the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill (UNC) School of Law goes even further, saying:
A federal law granting local police and sheriffs the power to act as immigration officials when faced with dangerous criminals or terrorists has instead created a climate of racial profiling and community insecurity.
The primary strategic goal of 287(g) is to identify criminal aliens. The saturation raids include large numbers of traffic stops within neighborhoods targeted, according to MCSO, on empirical evidence of crime. The traffic stops, however, often result in the detention of people whose only crime is an immigration violation and a minor traffic violation.
In January, Arpaio was caught on video arresting Ciria Lopez in front of her two children for an unpaid traffic ticket. Mrs. Lopes was deported weeks later, leaving her children without a mother.
Critics charge that sheriff deputies pull over drivers based on hunches that illegal immigrants are in the vehicle or under the guise of minor traffic violations (e.g., crack windshield, broken taillight), and then officers check their residency status, but MCSO says that they check the legal status of the driver and passenger only when they have probable cause. An MCSO spokesperson says, "when we pull over a van with 30 people in it in a smuggling corridor, we have probable cause."
According to an ICE fact sheet, however, traffic stops should not be impacted by 287(g) enforcement efforts:
ICE representatives have repeatedly emphasized that [287(g)] is designed to identify individuals for potential removal, who pose a threat to public safety, as a result of an arrest and/or conviction for state crimes. It does not impact traffic offenses such as driving without a license unless the offense leads to an arrest.
Arpaio says, though, that in addition to the federal laws enforced under 287(g), he has an obligation to enforce Arizona state laws, to reduce violent crime, and to save local taxpayers money. Last month, he conducted sweeps in Buckeye that included traffic stops, an area that he says is "a hotbed for violent human smuggling operations," pointing to nearly 100 homicides in the area over the last 6 years.
Twice Arpaio has marched shackled prisoners from one location to another. Most recently, in February a couple hundred immigrant detainees were marched down a public street from one jail facility to another so that they could be segregated from the rest of the inmate population. MCSO points out that the so-called "public street" is actually a street that runs between MCSO buildings and that the detainees only walked about 220 yards. A spokesperson says, "There wasn't any traffic. Any cars driving down that street are probably occupied by MCSO employees."
Immigrant rights activists, including lawmakers and other public officials denounced the march as "ritual humiliation" and a trophy-like display of Arpaio's "conquests" and denounced the separate facilities as racial segregation. Arpaio's supporters, however, say that he was merely separating immigration lawbreakers from hardened criminals. Arpaio says the move was a cost cutting measure and that the immigrant detainees will also benefit from more convenient access to the Mexican consulate.
For 2 years, Arpaio has advertised a hotline on MCSO trucks and vans through which local residents are encouraged to report people suspected of human cross-border trafficking and people who they suspect are living and working in the U.S. illegally. Supporters claim that the hotline discourages businesses from hiring people who are not authorized to work in the U.S. and helps authorities identify drop houses and criminal gang members. Critics say it encourages people to report sightings of Hispanics and to inform on minority neighbors who may or may not be residing in the country illegally.
One local paper produced an award-winning series accusing Arpaio of neglecting other obligations in order to pursue an anti-immigrant agenda. They say that in an effort to gain the publicity attached to controversial immigration enforcement activities, Arpaio has shifted resources to his immigration enforcement agenda leaving too few resources available for the core responsibilities of MCSO. They cite statistics that show MCSO performance on a range of law enforcement criteria dropped after Arpaio signed the 287(g) agreement.
MCSO says those statistics are incorrect, and they refute the conclusion reached by the East Valley Tribune reporters by pointing to a recent FBI report that shows violent crime and homicides have declined in Maricopa County. In fact, an MCSO spokesperson says that the FBI has commended them for immigration enforcement because it likely contributed to the decline of violent crime.
In a public memo on January 30, Napolitano asked DHS to re-examine the entire 287(g) program. According to DHS Spokesperson Sean Smith, the request was sparked by questions of whether uniform standards are applied under 287(g) across law enforcement agencies. Specifically, the report asks the following:
How many officers have been trained to date? How many agreements have been signed with state and locals to date and how many are ready to be signed? What is the current turnaround time to sign an agreement and what can be done to expedite more agreements? How does this model compare in cost, effectiveness, and administration, to other forms of cooperation with these officials or entities? What are the strengths and challenges with jail model agreements versus task force model agreements?
The report is due on Napolitano's desk today, but has not yet been released to the public.
Napolitano's question, "what can be done to expedite more agreements?" sparked outrage among critics of MCSO and 287(g), spurring plans for protests across the country on Saturday, February 28. More than 70 organizations have signed on so far, along with lawmakers and leaders of the Democratic Party and celebrities. The lead singer of Rage Against the Machine, Zach de la Rocha, endorsed the march and is asking his fans to take up the cause, saying:
To witness what is happening in Arizona and remain neutral is to be implicated in human rights violations that are occurring right here on US soil against migrants. History will not be kind to Joe Arpaio. He will be remembered with other infamous sheriffs like Bull Connor who subjugated and terrorized communities for shortsighted political gain.
The coalition is planning a demonstration and march in Phoenix and teach-ins in cities across the country.
National Coordinator Pablo Alvarado of the National Day Laborers Organizing Committee said,
People of conscience all over the country are outraged at what's happening in Arizona, and they will be working nationwide to pressure the Obama administration to act quickly.
Although the organizers are demanding that all 287(g) agreements be rescinded, the protests are being largely promoted as just another anti-Arpaio demonstration, which some say is a distraction from the ultimate goal of ending all 67 of the 287(g) agreements.
The UNC report also says there is currently no transparency of 287(g) activities, and the program has no functional system for complaints or appeals. Rather than recommending the repeal of 287(g) agreements, the report proposes making improvements to the program, including increased transparency, community involvement in the implementation of 287(g) agreements, a better complaint/appeal process, clarification of civil rights standards, and improving officer training.
While 287(g) opponents are concerned about the expansion of the program, Arpaio has voiced concern, based on Napolitano's request for an examination of the effectiveness of the program, that DHS could rescind the program or some of its provisions. Some immigration experts expect Napolitano to rescind the provision that allows local law enforcement agencies to make arrests for immigration violations, but they expect Napolitano to keep the provision intact that allows local law enforcement agencies to identify and hold illegal immigrants who have already been arrested for felony crimes.
Napolitano has indicated that, when it comes to immigration enforcement, her focus will be on the employers who exploit the illegal trafficking of laborers and on hard criminals living in the U.S. illegally. She says DHS, under her direction, will focus on those who create the market--the demand--for illegal labor to ensure that "those who are actually benefiting financially in large scale from [trafficking] pay a criminal sanction."
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When I first heard about Joe A, I was outraged. So I decided to find out more and went to the web site. I then changed my mind. The chain gangs are ONLY for those who are convicted, which is why the illegals all have UNconvicted labels on them. The meals and lack of A/C is hardly cruel punishment since folks lived there LONG before A/C and had a LOT worse to eat if anything at all. I had to laugh when I went to his most wanted fugitives. They were ALL deadbeat dads. Most ALL of the convicts in the county jail are that. He has since taken that down since it hurts his tough guy image. Not much glory in arresting folks who are behind on child support.
It is not abuse to have the guys wear pink underwear. I am all for disrespecting the MACHO image that most of these guys have. Maybe after spending some time eating bad food, and being out in the heat, they will experience what their exs and kids will have if they don't pony up. Those waiting trial are in different places, so I don't think he is doing badly.. There is more PR than sadism.
HIs use of the LAW to enforce immigration laws is excellent. We need that ALL over the country. If you are arrested, you SHOULD be checked for not only more warrants, but also if you are here legally. That is a NO BRAINER.
Well, I am glad you admit you make no brainer decisions because you certainly have proven that you don't have one. Now, which website did you go to? Sheriff Joe's? Have you also gone to read Mein Kampf to see what Hitler was all about? Why not try reading something that Joe's propaganda machine hasn't tailored for no brainer decisions? Why not read Stephen Lemon's long running blogs on Arpaio published on the Phoenix New Times website. Here's a good article: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/. Or how about the East Valley Tribune's series on Joe's misdeeds at http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/page/reasonable_doubt. Or even this anti-Joe website: http://www.arpaio.com/top-ten/index.php.
Now you have plenty of information to make a decision using your brain.
Racial profiling is wrong, I know the black people that live there are happy they are not bothering them.
Those of us who live in Maricopa County know that Sheriff Joe arrested the editors of "The New Times", a Phoenix newspaper that wrote a series of investigative articles about his operations. The Sheriff not only arrested the journalists in the middle of the night, but he also tried to get the newspaper to turn over records of every reader who accessed its website. The incident pointed to how the Sheriff abuses his office to silence critics.
We also know that his tent city houses people who are awaiting arraignment, not just suspected illegal immigrants. He is feeding rotten food to people who are presumed innocent. There have been a number of inmate deaths at the jail that resulted in wrongful death judgments. There is plenty of reason to question the human rights violations of American citizens who get pulled over for traffic violations.
When state officials are too afraid to act and local media critics are silenced, the federal government should make sure that this lawman is not above the law. The issue is bigger than illegal immigration for the Americans who live in Maricpoa County.
Democrats HAVE to "investigate" this guy - he's enforcing the law and doing it well! Don't break the law, don't get "hassled". What could be simpler?
Arpaio is enforcing the law and doing it well? Haven't you been reading the news? Or is the job you want him to do is to run out brown-skinned people and you don't give a damn whether he goes after real criminals just as long as they are white?
Haven't you been reading the news? Sheriff Joe has done nothing wrong. There has been no racial profiling proven and he follows his 287(g) agreement legally. He is running criminals out of town, white, black, yellow or purple. If you're from another country, here illegally, you're breaking the law.
Joe has a 85% approval rating, won 55% of the vote and is supported by the majority of people in Maricopa County. We have a serious problem with illegal immigration here. 6 of the last police officers killed here were killed by illegal aliens!
Everyone is trying to make this a racial issue. Only one problem, immigration status is not a race. It applies to all races. Sure, we're real close to the Mexico border which definitely puts a lot more Mexican illegal aliens here, but they are not an exclusive club, there are plenty of Europeans, Indians, Chinese, etc. that have overstayed visas in Maricopa County and if caught are also going to Tent City.
We are not a Sanctuary County, not like LA County. We are doing something about the problem, not just whining about it.
Dawn, that's a good commentary. However, you didn’t explain the full story on Ciria Lopez.
Lopez was a criminal. Let's list the crimes she committed:
1) She is an illegal alien.
2) She violated a traffic law.
3) She was driving with a fake driver's license or none at all. I suspect identity fraud.
4) Since everything about her is fake, you can bet she was driving
without insurance.
So, the bleeding hearts are complaining that Lopez was separated from her children.
What do you think happens when mothers are imprisoned? Answer: they are separated from their mothers!
If Lopez truly loved her children she would have come here legally so that
she wouldn't be separated if she got caught. Perhaps she smuggled her children in, which is another serious crime.
It's not Arpaio's decision to separate them - Lopez decided she didn't want to be with her
children. If she wanted her children all she would have to do is to bring them back to Mexico to live with her. Nobody is stopping Lopez from doing that. From what I can see this woman is just a shameless manipulator who uses her children as pawns to flaunt our laws. If Lopez's problem is that she can't afford bus fare to bring the kids back to Mexico I'm sure an organization like La Raza could help her. I suspect the real reason she hasn't brought her kids back to Mexico is because she doen't those kids.
I guess it was Ms. López's decision to lure her here for a better life and job. I guess it was her decision, too, to offer her a job. I guess it was her decision to find a better life. Why did you or your ancestors come here, Guy? Did anyone pass abitrary laws against your kind to keep you out of the country because they held racist notions against you or your ancestors? As a matter of fact, you offer nothing good to this country; you only offer hate. Why not go back to where your ancestors came from and stop poisoning our American values of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all? Your leaving this country would make it a so much better place.
I have very little information about Lopez besides the laws she broke. If she was employed in the U.S. I would have no problem if Sheriff Joe or some other law enforcement agency went after her employer -- in fact I would encourage them to do so.
If Lopez's children were born in Mexico they should be deported also.
I did a job in phoenix once, never again. Go to any bar and talk to the people they will tell you its a police state. You get caought with one marijuana seed in the carpet of your car and they will lock you in a labor camp in the desert. You get a dui there you end up in the desert while waiting trial!. I couldnt believe the stories I heard. Its a 115 degrees outside these guys are breaking rocks in the sun. I personally believe the tent jail in the desert is using the enviroment as cruel and unusual punishment , at least the siberian gulags were made of brick. Really what is the difference between leaving people exposed to extreme heat or freezing cold. I hope that jail stays open just long enough for this guy to get a taste of his own medicine.
Yes, please stay away from Arizona. We have enough pot smoking liberals as is.
If Illegals don't like getting deported they shouldn't come here in the first place.
I'm white and I'm terrified to go anywhere that sheriff has jurisdiction in. Even if you get arrested and are totally innocent they put you in pink underwear and make you live in tents outside. Screw that place.
Bull Connor is alive and lives in Maricopa County Arizona. shameful
It seems to me that Sheriff Joe is pretty much all about Sheriff Joe.
Where are the Dalton Brothers, Billy the Kid and gang when the wild west needs them? The sheriff needs a dose of humility, honesty, decency and a psychological assessment. I would question more than "is he profiling". He is a sick man with a badge. Oh ya..and an arsenal and people who can not defend themselves in any way. Whoopee..big brave sheriff. He is mean and hateful.
In the American legal system, it is judges and juries that decide guilt and punishment, not sheriffs.
This sheriff appeals to people's sense of vigilante justice not to their pride in the American system of government and justice.
This sheriff also appeals to the racist sentiments of the majority of voters in Maricopa County. I do not make this accusation lightly; just look at every single election in which Maricopa County voters voted on issues of race and they always--with the exception of the 2nd election for the MLK Holiday, after the first one failed--support the racist initiative or referendum. Read the Arizona Republic blog on these type of issues. The blatant, racist comments are proudly expressed and supported by Maricopa County bloggers. Racism is not dead in Arizona. It's have a good ol' fashioned revival. Arizona is the new Alabama and Joe Arpaio is Bull Connor reincarnate.
This issue is really about illegal aliens. How can you not profile that? I have lots of relatives who are Mexican and White. If you are in this country illegally, then you are breaking the law and you should be sent back to whatever country you are a citizen of. Their are plenty of people who enter this country legally and they should be rewarded for obeying the law. We are not allowed to go to another country and break their laws, nor should anyone be allowed to enter the US and break ours.
I am pleased to see that somebody else at Huffington understands the issue. The term "illegal alien" has nothing to do with race. If you are an illegal alien Arpaio will arrest you no matter what you look like.
Guy, you are such a racist in denial. Why don't you try looking at facts? The truth will set you free. The first step away from evil is to admit it exists in you. When you stop pretending--because no one believes you--that you are not racist, and just admit it, then admit why it is wrong, perverse and inhuman to be a racist, you will be able to take your first step towards being a real human being and perhaps even a real American.
While your argument states some truisms, it also shows your superficial and incomplete understanding of the facts. 1) not enough people enter the United States legally because immigration law--which have always been based on xenophobic, racist notions and not practical demographic realities--does not allow the number of people to immigrate that our business and industry need to operate. The actual number of authorized immigrants is very very low compared to the need. This is why American business has encouraged people to come here to work without authorization. This lack of workable and realistic immigration laws has provoked unauthorized immigration. 2) Your first statement really shows your complete ignorance of U.S. Constitutional rights. Let's see if I can say it simply enough for you: you cannot stop a person based on how they look or how they act, it is a violation of constitutional rights. You remember the Constitution, the supreme law of the land? Sheriff Joe is stopping people because they are brown or play Mexican music or drive a lowrider, which people have the right to be and do. And no one has the right to stop them for it. Do you understand that? Let's put it another way: by 2050 anglos will be in the minority and Hispanics, the majority in Arizona. How will you feel if Hispanics are in control and pull you over for being white and trumping up some charge against you? That is the world your Sheriff and you are creating.
You lie about US immigration law since it was changed in 1965. Why I am not surprised you lie about lots of other things? The woman who was stopped in the video was driving at night without her headlights on, NOT because she was Hispanic. The cops could NOT even SEE she was Hispanic until she stoppped! Then it was found that she had WARRANTS out for her arrest! THEN it was discovered she was an ILLEGAL. So HOW MANY CRIMES are illegals allowed to commit before they are arrested? ANY American would have been treated the SAME. I guess that you would NEVER arrest any illegal since it would be racial profiling.
Why do WE have to have drivers licenses, and THEY do NOT? By the way, Mexican, British and other countries licenses ARE good here too. I would be willing to bet that if an illegal shows a Mexican drivers license, they will just get a warrant check, and be sent on their way.Hell, from now on let's ALL play illegal and get free health care, no drivers license, and screw the laws.
"1) not enough people enter the United States legally because immigration law--which have always been based on xenophobic, racist notions and not practical demographic realities--does not allow the number of people to immigrate that our business and industry need to operate. The actual number of authorized immigrants is very very low compared to the need."
More Mexicans have come to American legally than any other group in the last 50 years. We take in more people than any other country in the world. We have too many immigrants, not too little.
"Let's put it another way: by 2050 anglos will be in the minority and Hispanics, the majority in Arizona."
Hispanic isn't a race. Lots of Hispanics are white. In 2050 white people (Hispanic white people and non-Hispanic white people) will still be the majority. Also, white people will still have all the wealth in 2050.
Over the past week, the "Sheriffs Office" lost track of a convicted Child rapist, who was in court for something,he stole a coat and walked out .. He was supposed to serve a life sentence for sexually assaulting several children.
With all the news in the paper they never once mentioned Arpaios name. But when its a round up of undocumented people his puss is plastered all over the pages.
Look up how much he has caused in lawsuits in Maricopa County.
Wow. I hope they find the child rapist. That really ought to be top of the list.
But I sense somehow it won't be. Don't get me wrong. One of the things that irks me most after 9/11 is that we still don't have our borders secure. I am for immigration reform, I want it to be humane, speed up the applications, widen the field where we can - but I want it done because I want to feel that not just anybody can sneak into my country. I don't like leaky borders. It's flat out not safe.
But I also don't have use for profiling. When that becomes the objective, the law goes out the window. It just gives bullies a free rein. Today it's someone else, tomorrow it could be me. We can't allow this kind of bullying.
And I get the feeling that this sherrif is basically Lou Dobbs with a badge.
Adrian Gonzalez Cruz is an illegal alien, and Phoenix is a sanctuary city for illegals. I doubt Arpaio had anything to do with his escape. It's far more likely that mayor Phil Gordon ordered his police to give him a key to his shackles. Phoenix is famous for letting rapists, murderers, and other assorted criminals loose as long as they are illegal aliens.
Since Cruz is one of those "undocmented immigrants" you guys seem to love so much, why would you care if he is walking the streets of Phoenix? If Arpaio ever caught up to Cruz you would probably accuse Arpaio of racial profiling the minute he was arrested and sent to tent city.
I live in Sun City, AZ, (which is policed by Maricopa County) where the 'shurrif' deputizes some of the residents who drive around town doing whatever they do. Little uniforms and an MCSO car. Folks tend to love the Fascist pig here. We're an over 55 community and I guess the old folks like the uniforms. (Nothing against old folks, I am one).
He is like a little fat Nazi. (Nothing against fat folks, I am one). His arrogance is astonishing. They sweep into hispanic communities like stormtroopers. We can't seem to un-elect him because too many people here seem to think illegal immigration is the country's biggest problem. As if.
I grew up here but lived in Chgo for many years and about 5 years ago moved back for the warmth. I don't remember it being this bad, but there was always a hierarchy of hate, with Mexican people being the most hated. Don't know why exactly. Indians were less hated, African Americans less hated. But the Nazis were less forthcoming then.
Granny -- it's easy for somebody in whitey neighborhoods like Sun City to sit back and complain about Arpaio. Sun City is racist and ageist and I'm sure you support their discrimination against minorities and young people. Elitists like you have nothing to worry about because you live behind locked gates. Most people like me don't have that luxury.
Besides being elitist you are a bunch of racists. Prove me wrong Sun City -- allow minorities like Mexican day laborers to rent your foreclosed houses at discount prices. That way the five families per home that will live there can walk to work to mow your lawns and clean your houses.
The vast majority of us don't live behind locked gates, and we can't choose our neighbors because we would be prosecuted by Arpaio for racism. We appreciate what Arpaio is doing because just like you, we don't want to be next door to drop houses, meth factories, and neighbors that own chickens and goats.
You and your Arpaio hating friends will be the first ones to beg him for help when the hungry illegals start busting down your walled communities. When that happens, call Arpaio because he is the only one that will help you. Fortunately most people in Sun Lakes are smart enough to support Arpaio, so the deputies that you ridicule might even save you.
I'll bet you complain about the border fence too. What a hypocrite!
Wow guyinAZ you were certainly hard on "Granny". Did you actually read her whole post? You know, "The Sheriff" treats ALL prisoners just as badly as he treats the Hispanic population. This is NOT a brown only issue, this is a human rights issue! Help the white and black prisoners too while you are at it!
Look, Sherriff Joe has had years in the limelight, not 15 minutes of fame. He's taking himself seriously thanks to AM talk radio. Put Joe on Oprah, the View, the Daily Show, Rush Limbaugh, Dr Phil & Dr Laura, maybe Larry King too. Has Joe done FAUX's 2 Often Seen, Bile O'Really yet? Give him an hour with Gretta too. Shall we see what happens to Joe's fame.
Do not let Joe near Steve or Jerry in Chicago. It would be sadistic. Oprah can be a steel magnolia but throwing Joe into Steve & Jerry's meat grinder is more than sadistic.
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