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It's an Open Secret That Many Young Republicans Support Gay Marriage

Posted: 02/17/2012 11:59 am

While conservative bloggers Erick Erickson and Melissa Clouthier were complaining that young people at CPAC were behaving like a bunch of frat boys and "whores," Samuel Martin, the president of the Fordham College Republicans, was thinking about another social issue that's lately troubled the GOP: gay marriage. "It is something that isn't openly discussed, but I would say we generally are either in favor of it, or we see it as an inevitability. Many of us either are gay or have gay friends, and as young Republicans we don't discuss it very often. There are so many other important issues, and our time would be better spent focusing on jobs and the economy," Martin told a New York site, Loquiveri.

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It's not just college students. Martin's comments reflect what's more or less an open secret among the GOP's younger staffers, operatives and professionals. "I think that's exactly what it is," Martin said on Thursday. "I think we see the writing on the wall, and understand that gay marriage, whether we like it or not (and there is a good deal of disagreement on that point) is here to stay." This was even more obvious outside of the Catholic conservative circles on Fordham's campus. "The vast majority of younger Republicans I talk to don't seem too concerned about it. And there are good number that support it," he said.

Says a young GOP political operative: "More people inside the GOP are okay with gay marriage than outsiders and liberals would think. That being said, it'll be a while before a tipping point is reached where they come out and say it. I'm talking more staffers and operatives than electeds. It's something Dems want to fight for, but by and large it's something conservatives don't really care about. Meaning they're libertarian about it but don't want to spend their time fighting about it."

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But that doesn't mean that the party's on a crash course for reckoning with gay marriage. Reconciliation will be a slow-going process. "There's an unspoken truce on gay marriage with younger Republicans, we know it's gradually being legalized anyway, so we don't want to divide ourselves because of it," Martin says. "But also I think younger Republicans, many of us at least, don't want to get in to conflict with the party platform, which is against gay marriage."

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While conservative bloggers Erick Erickson and Melissa Clouthier were complaining that young people at CPAC were behaving like a bunch of frat boys and "whores," Samuel Martin, the president of the F...
While conservative bloggers Erick Erickson and Melissa Clouthier were complaining that young people at CPAC were behaving like a bunch of frat boys and "whores," Samuel Martin, the president of the F...
 
 
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racmd
Just riding the wave of life
12:55 PM on 02/21/2012
This reminds me of the good old days....when the comment, "some of my best friends are black" was the cry on the streets.
Republicans would burn gays at the stake...It is equal only if it is white and male.
I continue to write a platform that gay-lesbians of America must disarm their opponents. We do that by eliminating them from the equation. We take the fourth "R" out of the equation...remember....reading, writing and arithmetic? Well, add "religion"...cause the schools and the churchs preach hate. Eliminate them from performing same-sex marriages! Remember, the ability to marry individuals is licensed by the State!!! They want separation of church and state at all levels...the separate it...once and for all. This is a civil liberty...NOT a religious right. It was not my choice to be born gay....but it is your choice to be whatever religion you choose...for the latter can be changed with minimal distress, while the former leaves more than scars when attempts to make a gay child straight.
03:09 AM on 02/21/2012
I know many young republicans, my grandchildren and they most certainly do not support homosexual marriages!!!
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practiceempathy
Tolerance need not yield to willful ignorance.
11:55 AM on 02/21/2012
Well, color you grumpy old man.
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Skeptical Cicada
02:47 PM on 02/21/2012
Your desperate anecdotal evidence aside, public opinion polling supports what the young Republicans in this story are saying.
10:07 PM on 02/20/2012
I've noticed that the younger republicans who are my close friends are too very supportive of lgbt rights etc. But when it comes to fiscal issues, it's a whole nother ball game!
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Kenneth Alton
02:55 PM on 02/20/2012
If you really believe in less government and more individual freedom... well let's just say having government dictate a lot of traditional "social conservative" issues come across as overly intrusive. It's not just over gay marriage that many young Republicans are beginning to disagree with party orthodoxy.
12:07 AM on 02/20/2012
"There are so many other important issues..."

What a cop-out!

Of course there are other important issues. There will always be other important issues. But there is NEVER a wrong time to stand up for human dignity and civil rights. And here in the United States, this land that prides itself as the "land of the free," that promises "liberty and justice for all," this should be doubly true!
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practiceempathy
Tolerance need not yield to willful ignorance.
11:56 AM on 02/21/2012
So fanned for that.

All Americans, whether or not they are gay-supportive, should be VERY troubled by the current trend we've adopted: voting on our countrymen's rights.

Our national character and integrity should indeed be a top priority!
08:57 PM on 02/19/2012
Glad to hear it. I even know several older Republicans who support marriage equality. It's a good thing. :)
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
11:57 AM on 02/18/2012
"so many other important issues like jobs. " Well, yes jobs are important, but equal rights are also important and as easy fix. The job market is not. I am disgusted that gay republicans ( I shudder at those 2 words together) would say this nonsense and basically fall into the GOP trap.
12:31 AM on 02/18/2012
Like the article says there are many young Republicans who are in favor of Gay Marriage, however, also in the article they clearly state they are not the majority. Rather than cause a fracas which could cripple the party the pragmatic thing to do is slowly change the party from within. Bold action is well and good but it is not always the smart thing to do.

Making judgment calls about how these people are purposely harming or otherwise taking advantage of the GLBT community is both short sighted and ignorant. You cannot possibly know how loudly, or how tirelessly these young Republicans may be working for change, yet you demean them all the same. For shame.
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Daniel Myers
Then man created god in his image.
10:55 PM on 02/18/2012
I left the party, that will have an effect. The party doesn't seem interested in introspection at the moment, time will tell if they care. I distinctly know they can be a stubborn minority for very long periods like '54 to '94.
07:45 PM on 02/17/2012
"...but by and large it's something conservatives don't really care about. Meaning they're libertarian about it but don't want to spend their time fighting about it."

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! Then why do I have to spend my energy fighting conservatives for equal rights? If they don't care, stop fighting us! If they don't want to spend their time fighting about it, STOP FIGHTING US!!

Phew... thanks for letting me vent.
06:55 PM on 02/17/2012
If this is the case they need to step up to the plate and start challenging their peers in their party. They need to be more vocal and insistent on lgbt rights. Their silence does none of their friends and family who are lgbt any good. Their support on the other hand could change their lives.
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grittyreboot
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04:06 PM on 02/17/2012
"More people inside the GOP are okay with gay marriage than outsiders and liberals would think. That being said, it'll be a while before a tipping point is reached where they come out and say it"

That's because conservatives are cowards who put public perception of their ideology over doing what's right.
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Skeptical Cicada
02:50 PM on 02/21/2012
But exactly the same could be said of President Obama, whose position remains that gay marriage is unacceptable because "God's in the mix."
03:41 PM on 02/17/2012
Wait, you're in favor of it, but you don't want to do anything about bringing it to fruition? Half of being in favor of it is fighting for its legality.
12:20 AM on 02/20/2012
Or as Elridge Cleaver said, "You're either part of the solution or your part of the problem."
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DerFarm
A mis-spent youth -- I coulda been chasing women
03:38 PM on 02/17/2012
sheesh, what a self-serving, cowardly lot those guys are. I've never voted Republican in my life (12 pres. elections) but I'd much rather have Santorum than those cs children. Talk about privelege.
03:24 PM on 02/17/2012
Awesome!!

Even the bigots know this... and shudder.
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Jack Hope
Occasionally quoted by Mainstream Media
03:00 PM on 02/17/2012
I'm sure that most young Republicans support gay marriage.

But just like most gay Republicans, they can put a price tag on the civil rights of gay people.

So they march happily off to vote for anti-gay Republican leaders. Their support of gay marriage adds up to virtually nothing.

But at least the got that tax cut.
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Skeptical Cicada
02:52 PM on 02/21/2012
But remember that no marriage equality bill has passed in any state without some votes of moderate Republicans. Those breaks with the party will become easier and will increase in the coming years. It does add up to something.
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Jack Hope
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05:22 PM on 02/21/2012
Barely. A couple of breakaway Republican state legislators (in mostly blue states) hardly constitutes some sort of gay rights breakthrough.

It still doesn't change the fact that a large number of gay voters are desperate for a pat on the head from people who hate them. And that they can put a price on their civil rights (and the civil rights of their 'loved' ones) that in most cases is probably a couple hundred bucks a year.