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Why French Women Have More Sex Than Their American Sisters

Posted: 01/09/12 08:35 AM ET

Sex after 50 is a hot subject, even though research can't quantify what "hot" really means or how cultural grey zones shape our experience of it. That's a disclaimer to what I'm about to write, which is that back in 2001 a group of researchers got together to compare and contrast the sexual behavior of Americans and the French in a study published in the Journal of Sex Research. What they found, in short, is that Post50 French women seem to have more active sex lives.

Given the hotness factor and enduring cultural relevance of the study, I recently revisited my conversation with one of its principle directors, Alain Giami. Of his voluminous report Giami summed things up this way: "Our study shows that the possibility of having sex after 50 is strongly dependent on the capacity to be in a relationship. If one is not in a relationship, there is no sex.

"The fact that in the States marriage is the exclusive option for couples makes it difficult for men and women of this [older] age -- especially if they have already built a family in a previous relationship -- to get so strongly involved again," he added. "In France, the diversity of options for living in a couple seems to facilitate the bonding of older men and women."

That marriage is the "exclusive option for couples" in America is debatable, particularly with the rise of cohabitation in this country. That said, even with these shifting cultural values we're still deeply beholden to the institution and business of marriage, just as we're deeply beholden to its evil twin, the institution and business of divorce.

Not so in France, where cohabitation -- those "diversity of options" -- is entrenched in the culture across the entire socio-economic spectrum. "Marriage is not the only honest and responsible way of bonding," Giami said by way of explanation. Catherine Deneuve put it more bluntly in an interview when she declared: "Marriage is obsolete and a trap."

That's great ammo for those who love to volley grenades at the French for being "immoral" (and who are equally quick to forget that it's often the biggest moral pontificators among us who literally get caught with their pants down). That said, it's worth considering Giami's view that living together facilitates companionship for older men and women.

The implication here that older French men appreciate older women more than their American counterparts intrigued me enough to ask Giami to qualify his statement. "We can look at that in two ways," he replied. "We could say that Frenchmen are attracted to older women and to women of their same age. But we could also ask the question: Do American women remove themselves from the sexual market because they're not interested in sex anymore? They may continue to be sexy, with cosmetic surgery and so forth, but to look sexy is not enough to sustain a sexual relationship. So perhaps they don't want to have as much sex." Which I suppose is another way of saying that looking sexy and feeling sexy are two different things.

My unempirical assessment is that if older French do indeed have more active sex lives than American women, it's because they grow up and live in a sexier culture. And that culture has definitively shaped their awareness of themselves and the world at large.

Michele Fitoussi, former editor of French Elle, spoke to that point when I asked her what she felt was the single most defining difference between older French and American women. After pondering for a moment, she replied: "French women have a keen sense of the brevity of time and immediacy of pleasure."

That struck a chord, since it's safe to say that we Americans seem to have a keen sense of the immediacy of the future and the brevity of pleasure. How research might quantify that -- and how it dovetails into our sense of sexuality -- is another grey zone in and of itself.

 
 
 
Sex after 50 is a hot subject, even though research can't quantify what "hot" really means or how cultural grey zones shape our experience of it. That's a disclaimer to what I'm about to write, which ...
Sex after 50 is a hot subject, even though research can't quantify what "hot" really means or how cultural grey zones shape our experience of it. That's a disclaimer to what I'm about to write, which ...
 
 
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jenniferkizzy
zombie chick
02:29 AM on 01/29/2012
let's all move too france and test this theory out for our selves ok see ya viva la france bye lol
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h jablome
My micro-bio is empty? Your micro-bio is emptier!
04:40 PM on 01/20/2012
"Why French Women Have More Sex Than Their American Sisters"

they're sluttier.
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collettethehedgehog
My micro-bio is So running on empty
12:47 PM on 02/04/2012
Belly laugh!
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blueinannarbor
My micro bio is now full
06:34 PM on 01/19/2012
Are there any jobs in France? It might be time to make a move.
06:53 AM on 01/18/2012
If you ever dare call a French woman "old" at around sixty years old, she will slap you.
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Brikdt x
xxxooo
01:23 AM on 01/17/2012
French women are enjoying sex in their 'Golden Years' and American women are not because of the superficial mentality in our country that over-emphasizes the importance of youth, beauty, money and prestige to the exclusion of everything else, including very sexy, intelligent women. Men completely pass up or likely do not even see these women to begin with, for various reasons which all in some way tie into the above superficial qualities. Many men in their 50's and 60's are coming to terms with disappointments related to careers that have not panned out, health issues, failed marriages, family relations etc. They are fearful and insecure and think that the only way out is the young and beautiful "sugar-candy" on their arms. This only perpetuates their misery in the end. Many men have not developed the depth in their personalities to accept changes associated with aging in themselves. 'Older women'serve as mirrors with bad lighting to these men, giving them glimpses of themselves to be faced maybe one day, but not today. Must be awful running from so many mirrors, while running into and connecting up with bright, shiny mirrors that serve as a constant reminder of past mistakes and painful lessons that get to be experienced all over again through the eyes of the superficial choice that will likely be gone after the first crisis has been resolved. Beauty vs depth, humility, kindness and sexy with a few wrinkles. Seems like an easy choice to me!,
05:33 PM on 01/19/2012
Brikdt x,you are so right ! I couldn't have said it any better !
03:29 PM on 02/03/2012
Wow. You saved me the trouble of typing all this out myself. Well said.
04:21 AM on 01/13/2012
I don't think one's nationality guarantees more sex in life than someone of another nationality. It's just as dumb saying French women are more attractive than American women. There's no basis for that presumption.
05:50 PM on 01/13/2012
They're certainly thinner. i can never understand how the French eat so much cheese and desserts and still manage to stay thin.
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Terence Manuel
Confine yourself to the present.
07:41 AM on 01/14/2012
No junk foods. Their diet consist of more "natural" foods. Frankly, they enjoy a much healthier diet.
05:42 PM on 01/19/2012
That's because we eat alot of Velveeta type cheese food,meaning., cheese with lots of extra ingredients,such as preservatives flavors,colors, whatever the food companies want to use,etc... They eat more natural foods, then we do here.
10:12 PM on 01/12/2012
Irma La Douce a romantic comedy set in Paris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ9O-jdOlFM&feature=related
07:31 PM on 01/12/2012
where can i find a french man?
05:43 PM on 01/19/2012
I'm looking too.
09:03 PM on 01/20/2012
Try France.
11:18 PM on 01/20/2012
Alright,OneVeryProudAmerican......that's funny ! lol We asked,you answered. lol
02:51 AM on 01/21/2012
rather love the US men & they do have just as much sex...they don't feel the need to brag
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jeffrey678
You don't happen to make it. You make it happen.
10:49 AM on 01/12/2012
Why French Women Have More Sex Than Their American Sisters ? 35 hour workweek and 6 weeks of guaranteed vacation.
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Terence Manuel
Confine yourself to the present.
08:47 PM on 01/12/2012
OK. Then how do you explain the women who are stay at home moms with a nanny not having sex with their husbands? They are getting sex. But it is from the tennis pro or karate instructor for the kid.....Let's stop being delusional.
05:51 PM on 01/13/2012
Yeah Europeans are more relaxed. Americans are overworked and stressed. Time to go socialist and let the government take care of some of our needs.
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TheBluesGuy
I'm too old to be governed by fear of dumb people.
09:38 AM on 01/14/2012
Hummm. Do the overworked Germans have less sex than the French?
09:06 PM on 01/20/2012
That's a joke right? You do realize that "the government" is not an entity but an amalgam of your fellow citizens...
11:03 PM on 01/11/2012
How many French women have American sisters?
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D. A. Wolf
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08:24 PM on 01/11/2012
I find this remark to be particularly true, in my experience. (No, I don't have a representative sample!):

"Frenchmen are attracted to older women and to women of their same age..."

There is also the mutually enjoyable act of flirtation, which needn't culminate in the sexual encounter, but certainly makes both men and women more conducive to it. And yes, it's easier to feel sexy in a culture (French) that views women as more of a "whole package" than we do here in the US.

My two cents, having lived, studied, and worked there on several occasions, as a teen, a 20-something, 30-something, and, as "une femme d'un certain age."

Besides, if we exempt a few notable exceptions (DSK, entre autres), there IS a reason that French men are irresistible.

http://dailyplateofcrazy.com/2010/03/11/are-french-men-irresistible/
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08:08 PM on 01/10/2012
Embers are every bit as enjoyable as flames.
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henriette and hube
my goal is to live each day
02:28 PM on 01/11/2012
The embers last longer.
11:47 PM on 01/12/2012
Especially if you have someone who knows how to fan them into a flame!
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onefineseamstres
07:50 PM on 01/10/2012
If they are having more sex... it's doubtful it's with husbands... Most over 50 have sort of
"died in that dept" lol
DocWylie
microbio with herbs..yumm
10:18 PM on 01/10/2012
Are you ever hanging out with the wrong guys.
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onefineseamstres
10:31 PM on 01/10/2012
most women over 50 = post menepausal.. = dryed up... also many men have greatly slowed down... they lie more about sex than they actually have it...

and MY DEAR... I'm 63 I do not "hang out" with guys. I've been married for over 40 yrs
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belldn3
Fascinated by red polish on women
07:39 PM on 01/10/2012
Because French women still look good at 50........Would that have anything to do with it? I mean, men do have to get a hard-on from something when it's go time.
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henriette and hube
my goal is to live each day
02:31 PM on 01/11/2012
French women do look great at and over 50. They take better care of themselves and value themselves and are exude confidence. I admire them greatly.

I know many women over 60 who are still sexy, my mother being one of those at 67 and looks fabulous.
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peteschwarze
common sense libertarian
07:09 PM on 01/10/2012
What about the cultural fallacy in american that once a woman can't have kids anymore her sexual usefulness is done. This church inspired nonsense has been holding women back for over a century. Even if a woman wasn't raised in such a household, the culture, madison avenue and every main st in america resonates this lie. Why can't a 60 year old be sexy? Why is it wrong for a 60 year old woman to teach a 30 year old man a thing or two? And what's wrong with having sex for pleasure instead of breeding?
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seereene1
More genius in a cracked pot than a whole one.
12:05 AM on 01/12/2012
Not a dang thing!