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Once Again for the Cheap Seats: We're Still Creating Jobs Where We Were Once Losing Jobs!

Posted: 05/04/2012 8:42 pm

Okay, we know it's political silly season but sorry I still don't see the reason for the outrage! When there is an addition to the number of jobs added and a subtraction to the unemployment number... how is that a bad thing! And by the way for those not clued in to the "real America", not everyone who falls off of the unemployment rolls is a hard luck story. Many statistics show that some people who were unemployed are now starting their own businesses, in fact I have two friends who have been out of work for over 9 months who teamed up to start their own event planning company about 8 weeks ago and both are doing just fine. But for those who say those 115,000 jobs added mean nothing, again I say, ask those 115,000 people who finally got a job last month just how much it means!

Maybe I'm way too far outside of the so-called beltway, but I still don't get it. How is adding jobs EVER a bad thing? Even if it isn't exactly how many we thought it should be, at least we're not losing jobs. Remember how that felt?

In just over 3 short years, we have come from losing 700,000 jobs per month to gaining over 100,000 jobs per month, I don't care what any overpaid economist says... that's GOOD NEWS! Are we supposed to shrivel up in a corner because some egghead says that we should have 160,000 jobs one month and instead we have 120,000? Oh please! No one will ever convince me that after the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, any month where we actually ADD jobs is a bad thing. Now, when we start losing jobs, wake me up!

And the stock market? If we have learned nothing else, we have learned that the stock market overreacts to anything. A dead bee on the sidewalk in front of the New York Stock Exchange could send honey futures plummeting while a stray cloud in the sky could send the Weather Channel's stock soaring! So I usually refrain from taking my cue on the state of the economy strictly from how the stock market reacts to anything. (and by the way, if some Republicans have their way, your health care benefits and your Social Security will depend on the life span of that little bee... think about it!)

Bottom line, once again, we had another month of job growth. Yes, it's not as much as we want or need and it's mostly in the private sector, which is where most jobs are created these days since our Republican governors are slashing public sector jobs as quickly as we can say 'partisan politics'! Isn't it funny how no one in the media is asking why over 600,000 jobs in the public sector (mostly government jobs) have been slashed while the private sector is steadily growing? If you think it's a coincidence that Republican governors across the country are slashing jobs in the middle of a recession during a Democratic presidency, you're smoking something really strong... or really good! Anyone who's anyone knows that the jobs number is what everyone is looking at to judge Barack Obama's presidency and if our little GOP minions in various state houses can add to that misery virtually unnoticed by cutting a few thousand jobs here and there, well that's all the better, right? FYI... this is the part where you start asking questions media!

Look, maybe our jobs gauge is not on 'F' where we want it or need it; but it's certainly not on 'E' which is where it was just over 3 years ago! And my friends, that extra little tank of gas (however pricey) is still a reason to celebrate!

Respectfully-
Dee Evans

 
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Okay, we know it's political silly season but sorry I still don't see the reason for the outrage! When there is an addition to the number of jobs added and a subtraction to the unemployment number...
Okay, we know it's political silly season but sorry I still don't see the reason for the outrage! When there is an addition to the number of jobs added and a subtraction to the unemployment number...
 
 
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05:40 PM on 05/07/2012
Dee, you're my hero! Amen. Amen. Amen. This whole thing of looking at the glass half empty is to give some in the "news" media something to talk about and to "create" a news story of their own making. Their positions of what is happening with our economy means very little. We should take much of what is being said with a grain of salt. They have no credibilty.
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Only truth remains when fear is denied
08:09 PM on 05/06/2012
Dee, you should know better than to use cooked statistics for your Pollyanna Piece. The jobs numbers don't include "structural" unemployment - people who are out of the market because they've given up but should be in the market because they're able-bodied. When we add 120,000 jobs, and the unemployment rate drops, it completely ignores the structural unemployed - or the underemployed who get a checkbox under "employed" but aren't spending enough hours working to earn a living.

That, my dear, is why the economy is slowing down: the constant death by a thousand cuts of government job elimination and spending cuts takes money out of the economy and keeps new demand from being generate, which creates jobs. It's Econ 101, basic economics that won Keynes a Nobel Prize. Today, we're told that "Keynesianism" is some kind of defective cult, like "Communism" but in fact, it's much more solid economic science - proven multiple times including during the Great Depression - than any of the voodoo economics of "trickle down", "supply side", or "Laffer Curve" mumbo-jumbo that is mostly wishful thinking, justification of greed, and gross oversimplification that doesn't work. Keynes showed that with an adequate tax rate, government spending lifts the economy enough to increase tax receipts enough to cancel the increased debt and thensome. Private industry may succeed in getting us out of the Great Recession, but government can do it much, much faster - with little to no long-term debt increase.
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sadcitizen
03:28 PM on 05/06/2012
HEAR, HEAR, Since when is good news looked at as bad news? I remember, as soon as Barack Obama became President.
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rbelmonte
always grateful
01:52 PM on 05/06/2012
Is the glass half empty or half full?
03:58 PM on 05/06/2012
hey...as long as we have a glass...and there is something in it...We're doing okay. Its when the glass is empty and then we break the glass that things are bad.
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Under Fed yet Fed Up
Always great distaste for both political parties
12:12 PM on 05/06/2012
Without enough wage earners to pay taxes to fund the government programs, we, as a nation, become less wealthy every month.

Celevrate 100,000 jobs? Go ahead. It slightly slows the rate of financial decline in this country. Very slightly.

The loss of 300,000 plus people from the workforce was bad news. Very bad news. These people won't be paying taxes anytime soon, if ever.

And by the way, those two friends that started their own business are now employed. They were not removed from the workforce.
Dad24
The Right is Wrong
02:57 PM on 05/06/2012
How many of the 300K people who left the workforce did so because they retired? That isn't bad news. And, last time I checked, retired people do pay taxes. So, there goes your false premise.
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bigmaddy
Retired Union, USN
04:50 PM on 05/06/2012
That's what I did when I got laid off but was able to retire, but I would of rather worked another 3 years. But there are alot of people who weren't as lucky as me to have a penison too fall back on and I also was a widower so I was able to receive my late wife's SS at 60. The thing I never understand about those on the right is how they think people who are employed by the Government don't pay taxes or don't put their money back into the economy. I'd bet that a store owner don't care where a person gets their pay check from as long as they leave some of it in their store.
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Under Fed yet Fed Up
Always great distaste for both political parties
07:43 PM on 05/06/2012
According to the government something less than a third retired, many not by choice.

Retired people pay considerably less in taxes on average than working people.

What false premise? These are facts.
09:38 AM on 05/06/2012
He put as little effort into creating jobs as he could. He did not stand up to the banks and wallstreet. Getting rid of dictators worldwide sounds noble. But he cannot even run our country. Not enough of a business middle class background. Even the right misses bill clinton.
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HST
Conservatism = selfishness
11:22 AM on 05/06/2012
Not enough of a "business middle class background".

One of the silliest comments I have ever read.

1. leading a government and leading a business are related as much as fish and bicycles are related.

2. I suppose you think Mitt Romney who makes 21 million a year off of his "investments" and has no job is middle class.
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JWerner
Beware Macduff; beware the thane of Fife!
04:04 AM on 05/07/2012
Indeed. I'm sick and tired of people constantly claiming that 'business experience' helps you govern anything. We need to get the hell away from that line of thinking, it's already caused enough damage as it is.
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bigmaddy
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04:53 PM on 05/06/2012
Obama created more jobs in 3 years than Bush did in 8. Obama has one hell'va a hole to dig out of left from Bush.
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08:12 PM on 05/06/2012
I don't think your comment is strictly true, bigmaddy. If you subtract the number of people employed at the start of the presidency from that at the end, Obama is doing a lot better than Bush did, and for that, I blame Bush for being one of the worst presidents ever - mostly because he everything he did caused the problem or made it worse (though he was hardly the only one responsible.) On the other hand if you count new job placements during a presidency, Bush still has Obama beat. The fact is that after 9/11, the entire economy never really recovered, except in the eyes of the wealthy.
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
08:23 AM on 05/06/2012
Republicans have been obstructing this Democratic Administration since before President Obama took office. Republicans were installed in most government agencies to do one thing only to disrupt the process. When the republican senators put their "secret holds" on almost every person The President puts forward to run an agency it hamstrings that agency. When they use the courts to hold up elections that keep an elected Senator who would provide a filibuster breaking vote for more than 6 months they are corrupting the Republic.
Whether you think it is racial or politics the fact that this President has been hobbled is undeniable.
History is also undeniable, during the Great Depression FDR was making progress at ending the mess he was left with and Republicans stepped in to reverse his policies which caused a deeper Depression and lengthened the recovery we see the very same principles at work today. WWII ultimately ended the great depression... and it was a GIANT Government stimulus. something we are missing now.
Those on the right who keep the lies going that we had a "failed stimulus" ignore the facts.
George Picard
Send lawyers, guns and money
07:24 AM on 05/06/2012
Face it this is the weakest economic recovery ever.

We need to add at least 160 to 165K jobs per month just to stay even.

The only reason the unmployment number is going down now is because people are running you of unemployment benifits and or just giving up looking.
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Graham Huff
Pragmatist.
09:15 AM on 05/06/2012
Bush's last years in office, jobs were lost and the economy was worse. Romney wants an economic stagey worse than Bush's. Is this what you want?
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HST
Conservatism = selfishness
11:25 AM on 05/06/2012
"Face it this is the weakest economic recovery ever."

Recovery from what? 8 years of Bush economic policies that Romney wants to go back to.

So you're upset that Obama isn't cleaning up Bush's mess fast enough.

Boo-hoo.
GreatGrand mama
We must make our choices with care
12:33 PM on 05/06/2012
republican men keep their wives under their thumb and it is the brain washing tactics as the right aisle has done... I hope it will make women think before they vote for their rights. Husbands aren't always right. believe me.. I am now widowed close to 15 yrs..
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LunaPark
Don't believe it until it's officially denied
12:37 PM on 05/06/2012
Our problems go back further than 8 years, starting with the Wilson administration.
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02:12 AM on 05/06/2012
Right on Dee, I especially liked the part about the media asking questions.
GreatGrand mama
We must make our choices with care
12:35 PM on 05/06/2012
I hope more and more women.. ask questions.. and don't rely on their husbands for political correctness. because 90% of the open public believe what the emails sent to them, regardless of it is truth or fiction.
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03:23 PM on 05/06/2012
That is a very wise statement. The uninformed public believes dogma as fact. Also, I see a lot of family members accepting the agenda of elders (I'm old myself), without investigation.
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parlimentMike
It's not un-American to investigate 4 crimes.
01:53 AM on 05/06/2012
Nothing the short sighted CoC likes better than low-wage jobs. Until it goes looking for customers, that is.
11:38 PM on 05/05/2012
Consider Michigan-with it's wonderful Governor Snyder-who promised jobs, jobs, jobs. If it wasn't for Obama saving the auto industry, Michigan would now be a ghost state. Oh, yeah-Snyder has created a few jobs-- he appoints financial managers who take over and rule by fiat. Soviet Michigan.
zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
09:53 PM on 05/05/2012
Grateful for your post, Ms. Evans, especially since Romney was "blowharding" about how Obama should be creating 500,000 jobs a month...which would mean that the country was on a high roll economically instead of creeping up from a deep recession. The guy lies like a rug...and apparently thinks that if he throws enough mud at Obama, some of it is bound to stick.

What bothers me about the neocons is that they haven't tried to help people at all...as you said, they're laying off state workers. Their only priority is to see Obama become a "one term president", regardless of how many people suffer from their lack of cooperation and gridlock. Poor people just don't matter to them, but there are more poor people than rich, and I hope that they remember who did the laying off in November.

I wonder how President Obama is doing with retaining Federal workers...I thought that a lot of them were laid off, too...which I feel is a wrong move, since during a recession, when the private sector isn't hiring, the government should be the "employer of last resort".
GreatGrand mama
We must make our choices with care
12:45 PM on 05/06/2012
Unfortunatey due to the 2004 thru 2006 bust.... on federal and state level... Jobs are available when there is tax money from the areas in which those jobs are available or as needed. I am ony seeing more postal workers being hired.. Budgets are getting tighter.. The schools in my city of 87,000 any side activities.. the parents pay for the activity. 50 yrs ago.. I played in a band.. and mom paid the rent for the last year of High school. now schools are going back to old rules. Parents are playing more ..
zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
02:18 PM on 05/06/2012
Because of the recession, people aren't able to pay any increases in property tax, so schools in all but the richest areas have been forced to cut back, since they rely on property taxes for their funding. Where I live, over 84% of my town taxes go to the schools...up from 79%, which means that there is less spent on town projects...but the schools are still able to provide all the extras for students.

I never had children, but still had to pay my share for the schools, and my taxes are 20% of my total income. I never minded the kids getting the stuff that I never got in school, but I really resented the waste, since I'm not wealthy myself and had to struggle to make ends meet...so I was always at grievance day every year trying to get the taxes reduced.

After the crash, the schools cut back on the waste, which they should have done years ago...when the money was really rolling in, and they didn't know how to throw it out! When you lose your income and can't pay your taxes, the town will sell your house in a tax sale after three years. I was lucky, because I was three years behind on my taxes before I got my income back...and it took me over a year to pay the taxes, plus interest and penalties off.
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bigmaddy
Retired Union, USN
05:04 PM on 05/06/2012
Cutting taxes for the rich is a big problem to the states, look at Wisconsin big tax cuts to the rich then blame the workers for the budget shortfall caused by those tax cuts, typical republican playbook. By the way that's what the Ryan budget does gives three trillion dollars of tax cuts to the wealthy and then pays for it by breaking Medicare and Social Security.
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08:16 PM on 05/06/2012
I'd like to see Mittens' advice on how to create 500,000 jobs a month. Keynes proved conclusively that there is only one way to do it: massive stimulus. Even if you reduced the minimum wage to $1 and removed all the "surplus" of regulation, the economy would just crash because there would be no demand due to low salaries.
zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
09:59 PM on 05/06/2012
Romney's blowing out of his @ss! Economists said that the economy would have to be ultra-strong for that amount of jobs to be created. He's using any lying tactic to make Obama look bad, and his lunatic fringe base is eating it up.

So far, we haven't heard one squeak from him about any plans that he has for the economy, which means that he doesn't have any...only the same old, failed "trickle down" policies that the neocons have been using since 1980, which made them, and their cronies in big business and big finance rich.

I'm sure big business wouldn't mind if the minimum wage became $1...they wouldn't have to go overseas for cheap labor. That, along with deregulation, would have most of the American workforce sneaking over the border into Mexico!
09:10 PM on 05/05/2012
Some people think that it's a problem that only 63.6% of the workforce is
working. The lowest level since 1981! The fact that private jobs are
increasing is a good thing but the total working is bad, really bad.
GreatGrand mama
We must make our choices with care
01:11 PM on 05/06/2012
1981 aaa yes... bad .. bad year.. and went on into the 1982.. when I left so. calif..
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jjsardo
Proud liberal in a red state.
08:17 PM on 05/05/2012
The loss of government jobs is an offset to stimulus, works against economic growth and contributes greatly to the Great Recession.
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Allen Clark
08:15 PM on 05/05/2012
Its a mystery! Not only are people dropping off the unemployment line because their bennifits are up, but also seniors are taking early retirement with a penalty and now the quantity of people on disability has risen considerably. So, why Is unemployment going down, It does not take a brain surgion to figure out that Obama needs a lower rate, so he calls somebody who calls somebody and mysteriously, it goes down. That is our President. He can make the economy recover by just making a call.
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jmdziuban1
Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
08:49 PM on 05/05/2012
The manner in which unemployment is calculated has not changed since 1994, except to take into account new census data every 10 years, most recently in 2003 following the 2000 census. The President cannot unilaterally alter these methods.

Beware, unfounded conspiracies can be dangerous.
MHT73
words matter
08:21 AM on 05/06/2012
exactly right, F&F
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sadcitizen
03:35 PM on 05/06/2012
The most recent census was taken in 2010
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feelingdisposable
Obama 332 - Romney 206
09:33 AM on 05/06/2012
I really don't think you're fully awake to be saying that the official unemployment number can be made to shrink with a phone call from the president. If there was anything to your theory, then we would also be seeing gas at $1.79/gal. Either give us a link to prove your point or discard your "conspiracy" theory. It doesn't hold up to even casual scrutiny.