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If You Liked Iraq, You'll Love Iran

Posted: 08/26/2012 8:05 pm

Five years ago there was considerable media speculation that the United States was about to bomb Iran to stop its nuclear program. Despite the hype, it was clear that was not going to happen. Times have changed. Now a war with Iran is not imminent, but it is inevitable. And if you liked Iraq, you will love Iran.

A war with Iran will be far worse. For starters, Iran has four times the land area and three times the population of Iraq, so it is not a small challenge. While Iraq had no nuclear program, Iran has a well-developed one, which it claims is for peaceful purposes, with 14 different industrial sites supporting it. Some of them are hardened to withstand an attack and are well defended. So an air war to destroy them won't be easy and a ground war is unthinkable, even for the most hawkish chest-thumpers.

Another problem is the reaction to an American attack. The Bush administration justified invading Iraq by citing its violations of a number of U.N. resolutions. When the United Nations would not authorize the use of force, the United States then ignored it, robbing the operation of its legitimacy. The United States went ahead anyhow, but 48 countries went along. It was a coalition of the coerced and co-opted, but it gave a fig leaf of international acceptability.
If we attack Iran, no country, except perhaps Israel, will be joining us. There will be several Sunni autocrats quietly urging that we hit the Persian Shiites hard, but they will contribute nothing else. No other nation will be willing to kill Iranians and have its forces be killed by them.

While the attack will be condemned around the world, its effect in Iran will be even worse. Invading Iraq brought down Saddam Hussein, but an attack on Iran will consolidate the power of the regime in power. The advocates of war say the Iranians will topple their government once it begins. But an attack will only strengthen the grip of the Iranian leadership just as 9/11 did for President George W. Bush.

At that point the Iranians will have no reason to hide any intention to build a bomb and every reason for doing so. An air campaign would set back their program by two years at best. So it would not be a few air strikes and then victory parades. It would mean a semi-permanent state of war.

And the Iranians will react to being bombed. At a minimum, the unrest and their geographic position on the waterways that carry much of the world's oil will make four dollars for a gallon of gas seem like the good old days.

Then there are the unintended consequences. What if the day after the bombing starts an intelligence report comes in saying factions of the Pakistani military were so angered by an American attack on a fourth Muslim country that some of their nuclear weapons have gone missing and may be on their way to being used?

Is that an impossible scenario from the hosts of bin Laden and the planners of the Mumbai terrorist attacks? A recent New York Times article talked about the real possibility of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal falling into the hands of Islamic extremists.

But why if a war is such a bad idea, is it inevitable? The answer is domestic politics. If Mitt Romney wins in November, he has already made clear, during the Republican debate in Iowa, that Israel will dictate his policy in the Middle East. And he will need a war, just like Mr. Bush, to distract people from the failure of his economic policies, which are just like Mr. Bush's.
If President Barack Obama wins, one might hope for a different outcome. A recent opinion piece in The New York Times was titled "How America Can Slow Israel's March to War." It was written by Dennis Ross. He worked in every administration since Jimmy Carter was president, with the exception of George W. Bush's, and is thought by many to have never been more than a front man for the Israeli right. His program for postponing war consists of providing political cover for an Israeli attack, providing political support once it happens and providing weapons and more weapons to make it possible.

With bunker-busting bombs and midair refueling capabilities donated by the United States, Israel will be able to start a war, but it won't be able to finish one. Invariably the United States will be drawn into the conflict to protect its interests and Israel.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu knows there is a good chance his old friend Mitt won't be moving into the White House. And he knows that once re-elected, his leverage on President Obama will be drastically reduced. So the list has no doubt already been presented to American officials and, in order to avoid a crisis in the midst of an election campaign, promises to fill it have already been made. The article by Mr. Ross is just preparing public opinion for the day the payoff is made.

It would be nice to think war could be avoided, but the steps necessary to do that are unlikely to be taken. On the American side, we could offer to open an embassy in Tehran to conduct some real diplomacy rather than shouting at each other through the media. The United States could also recognize that regime change in Iran will come from within and not through saber rattling from abroad.

As for Israel, Iran would have no excuse for threatening it if peace were made with the Palestinians. The outline of what a settlement would look like has been on the table since the Clinton administration. Mr. Netanyahu is not Menachem Begin, however, who negotiated an agreement with Egypt with the help of Jimmy Carter. Mr. Netanyahu would rather hold on to power than take a chance on peace -- even if that means a war he can't win and the United States can't avoid.

Originally published online for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

 
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08:49 AM on 09/02/2012
"As for Israel, Iran would have no excuse for threatening it if peace were made with the Palestinians.".... Thats an assumption I do not believe and History does not support.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
04:16 PM on 08/27/2012
I'm sure it'll cost $50 billion tops and will pay for itself with oil revenues.

It'll be a cakewalk....
The boys will be home by Christmas.....
11:59 AM on 08/27/2012
Starting a war with iran takes courage that Israel doesn't have. That's why there won't be a war.
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marignymitch
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12:58 PM on 08/27/2012
No problem. The always war-hungry USA will eagerly start war for Israel, as ordered.
02:47 PM on 08/27/2012
Wash out your mouth.
11:48 AM on 08/27/2012
Your analysis is spot on except you fail when you come to your Obamabot conclusions about our current president who is PUSHING for war with Iran, not deflecting it. He may in fact encourage Israel to start it if it looks like he is losing the election which PEW experts predict he will lose. Israel has already set a date to attack Iran next month. They will do it, Obama will join in and there we go. The rest of your assessment is very good. I would add that Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, Egypt and Pakistan will join in an alliance against us. They have had it with our destabilizing attempts at fascist empire building in the Middle East. Not to mention our war crimes. WWIII is on our doorstep. Obama will do it to keep power and gain more, Romney will do it for the same reason. Ruling classes always think a big world war will restore economic growth and silence dissent. They have been wrong every single time but that won't stop them from committing the same folly again, only this time they may extinct us.
10:11 AM on 08/27/2012
You will really like Iran when it has nukes. The US or any other country will not be able to live with an Iran with nukes.
11:52 AM on 08/27/2012
Oh I don;t know, the USA and Russia had and still do have the world's supply of nukes and the world is still here. Oh but are you falling in line with racist propaganda that the Iranians are somehow more irrational and stupid? More dangerous than Pakistan with it's nukes, or India, or Israel or how about an ambitious amoral Russia or how about the lunatic fringe USA who has the despicable honor of being the only country so far to have used nukes on a civilian population.
05:13 PM on 08/27/2012
The Iranians may be irrational but they are not stupid. They are playing the Americans like a violin. Pulling the strings and watching the Americans quirm.
11:59 AM on 08/27/2012
why not? We lived with russian nukes and North korea and china and pakistan nukes. Why not Iran? MAD has worked before and it'll work again.
05:14 PM on 08/27/2012
Iran is a terrorist supporting state. What will happen when they transfer nuclear weapons to their terrorist allies? The world will never be the same when Iran has nuclear weapons.
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09:14 AM on 08/27/2012
Solution is simple, US should ignore Bibi who is suffering from serious freeloading illness...and as for neocons and aipac, give them infamous quote 'are you with US or against US' if answer is latter, then put them on the next flight to Israel...they can go and fight for eretz israel altogether..no more American blood for these war-mongers...
07:47 AM on 08/27/2012
You're just forgetting that the Iraq war was a huge success. Remember? It had the "mission accomplished" banner and everything, so it has to have been a success! Right?...please?
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06:18 AM on 08/27/2012
Today I read that the global (war) weapons market is estimated at 85.3 billion US-dollars in 2011, and the US exports at 66.3 billion US dollars. US arms exports have tripled from 21.4 billion dollars in 2010. The bulk of those exports went to the middle east.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/world/middleeast/us-foreign-arms-sales-reach-66-3-billion-in-2011.html?_r=2&ref=world

We also know that the founder of Blackwater is leaving in a gulf state.
We also know that Saudi Arabia is sunnite wahabi (state religion) and in Iran people are predominantly shiite.

And there is a lot of oil produced in the region.

The US don't even have to fight I suppose, military advisors might do. Anyhow a whole bunch of people like the conflict already, methinks.
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11:00 AM on 08/27/2012
correction: "... is living in a gulf state."
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Peter Leary
So long and thanks for all the fish.
05:21 AM on 08/27/2012
America has to do the right thing, albeit in a big way... It has to accelerate withdrawal from Afghanistan, reduce its political and military presence throughout the Middle East and make clear statements indicating a reduced future role in overseas issues.

With the election still running so close, such actions seem highly unlikely. From their online presence at least, many Republicans seem hungry for war without appearing to have any real idea why beyond an unspecified hatred for Iran, Ahmadinejad in particular. The dire consequences - which you have identified in the clearest, most accessible terms - still aren't being grasped.

However, I still think Obama is very much in control. As someone said earlier, if he was white he'd be considered one of the most calm, articulate and intellectual presidents in many decades. He has had to fight not only prejudice against his genealogy but also to court the American right on issues such as foreign policy and gun control - to alienate those voters in a first term would have been political suicide. But a second term brings a different kind of confidence... a greater sense of trust. It also allows Obama to get tough and say "OK, you really want me to fix this country? Then here's how it's going to work..." He's going to have to upset a huge number of people in the process, but with luck, four years should be enough to show America there is another way...
10:13 AM on 08/27/2012
And leave the Middle East and all of its oil to Iran. All they export is oil and terrorism. That makes a lot of sense.
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12:53 PM on 08/27/2012
Actually, that would be Saudi Arabia. Our good buddies.
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marignymitch
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01:00 PM on 08/27/2012
You're correct. That oil belongs to us.
01:34 PM on 08/27/2012
Peter truer words were never spoken. Give Obama a second term and he can really get things done despite the Koch brothers and the Bushes. F'd and f''d
uk progressive
He took a face from the ancient gallery
05:14 AM on 08/27/2012
I have a horrible feeling that the UK along with Israel would be dumb enough too support a suicidal attack on Iran.
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Peter Leary
So long and thanks for all the fish.
05:31 AM on 08/27/2012
I can't see that happening. Possibly the one good thing Cameron has going for him is a lack of real guts. He's ok with a little local bullying of the weak at home, but on a world stage he'll do what he's told by the UK electorate and be glad to do so. He's not a statesman and I doubt he wants to be one.
uk progressive
He took a face from the ancient gallery
05:47 AM on 08/27/2012
I don't know we are upto our necks in Afghanistan, got on board in Libya and are currently embarrassing ourselves with the assange Ecuador farce all for the US.
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Wisdo
semantics shamantics
09:02 AM on 08/27/2012
I would have thought the same was true of Tony Blair, who morphed from a reasonable, mild mannered schoolmaster of a guy into the lying sack of warmongering manure given the chance at stamping his name onto a lovely little war.
07:32 AM on 08/27/2012
Just be glad that Tiny Blur is gone.
01:15 AM on 08/27/2012
Thank you for the article.
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12:11 AM on 08/27/2012
As usual we will do what Israel tells us to.
09:00 AM on 08/27/2012
And as usual, the rest of the world can't believe, how the most powerful nation on the planet is being toyed with.
10:15 AM on 08/27/2012
By Iran of course.
11:39 AM on 08/27/2012
They can't believe how Israel leads our government around by the nose.
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realitytrumpsbull
Two 'alves of coconut!
11:21 PM on 08/26/2012
Will Iran develop the Bomb? Will they be dumb enough to launch it, if they do? Duck, and cover...right now, countries are pondering ways to just get rid of nuclear technology completely, shutting down reactors and decommissioning them completely. To me, that's progress. What is Iran doing? Sun shines in Iran, just like it does everyplace else, if they did the same amount of engineering work as other countries, their country would be solar-powered, too. Atoms aren't toys, you break one, you'll regret it...
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Boduognat
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05:32 AM on 08/27/2012
"Sun shines in Iran,"

It shines in Texas and Arizona as well, but still the USA, which is believed to have around ten thousand nuclear warheads in it's arsenal, needs a new War every few years so that they can strip Middle Eastern countries of their natural resources.

Or surely you're not going to tell me that the USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, and have bases in Turkmenistan, Azerbeidjan, Tadjikistan etc. etc. because their main export product is broccoli?
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Richard Pearce
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07:40 AM on 08/27/2012
Of course, reality trumps your bull, because Iran invests as much in its solar and wind power programs as it does in its nuclear power program. It even invests in 'pumped hydro' (a pretty efficient way of storing energy from solar and wind for times when the weather isn't co-operating), but, because it is pretty hard to convince even Americans that solar and wind energy programs are actually weapons programs in disguise (I mean, one could claim that the solar program was secretly aimed at developing laser weapons, or, because it relies on a massive nuclear reactor, the sun, that it is in some way a nuclear weapons program in disguise, but even the majority of Birthers would see through that) those programs don't rate the sort of hysterical attention that Iran's other non-carbon energy program gets. PS, ever crunch the real numbers for solar and compare them to the demands an industrialized nation has? Be sure to include the demands for underground hydroponics to replace the farmland you cover with solar panels.
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Blackstone3
10:56 PM on 08/26/2012
No more Middle East nonsense. Forget Iran. Get the troops our of Afghanistan. I very much want to go back to forgetting where those countries are. Israel want's to take on Iran, fine with me. Have fun. Send postcards (not the "wish you were here" cards though). Develop America's oil and energy and leave the funny looking guys and the women you really cannot see alone.