Killer Classifieds


Jim Buckmaster must think we're stupid. He's the C.E.O. of Craigslist the popular and controversial internet classified ad site. Faced with another major public relations disaster, this time the murder of a young woman who reportedly hooked up with her killer via Craigslist, all Buckmaster had to say was, "I would not describe any section of our site as 'sex related.'" He admits Craigslist does feature an "erotic services" section but, he says, it was not designed to offer more than "legitimate escort services, sensual massage or exotic dancers."

What does he think "erotic service" leads to - a game of paddy cake?

In case you've been on a different planet lately Craigslist is a worldwide internet site featuring millions of ads on everything from "Jobs, housing, goods, services, romance, local activities, advice - just about anything, really."

The most recent story has to do with the brutal beating and shooting death of 25 year old Julissa Brisman in a luxury Boston hotel room. That's where police say she met medical school student Phillip Markoff, now dubbed the Craigslist killer. At this writing Markoff is charged with Brisman's murder and is wanted in connection with the kidnapping and assault of at least two other women he met through the same site.

Let me set the record straight. Craigslist includes ads for sex, lots of ads for sex. So either Mr. Buckmaster doesn't know his own product or he's parsing words to an extent that would put Bill Clinton to shame. Besides the erotic services section there's a whole "Personals" section with subtitles such as: Women seek men, women seek women, men seeking men. Just what does Buckmaster think these people are seeking - a ping pong partner?

Suzy Spencer, a bestselling author who's researching a book on sexual trends in America, tells me the Craigslist "Casual Encounters" section is also sexually oriented. "It's where men and women go specifically to find partners for spur of the moment, no strings attached sex, not a date for dinner and a movie. I know. It's where I've found many of my (book's) sources, and they've told me in minute detail about the sex they had with partners they found via Craigslist."

Look, I'm not blaming Craigslist for this young woman's murder. But you'd think its corporate culture might include the acceptance of some responsibility, maybe even a public admission, that their site has been a facilitator for predators on the prowl. Supporters of the site have said it's actually a good thing Markoff turned to Craigslist because police were able to follow the computer clues right to his doorstep. I say there's never much good news when someone has been murdered.

The complaints about Craigslist and sex ads aren't new. Last year 40 State Attorneys General put pressure on the company and forced Craigslist to take steps to tone down its salacious postings. In March 2008 Craigslist began requiring all those who placed erotic ads to supply a telephone number, thinking that would be a deterrent. It wasn't. In November 2008 the company agreed to charge erotic service advertisers a small credit card fee which could go to identify them. Craigslist, then put in the uncomfortable position of both running and profiting from the erotic ads, declared the money would go to charities fighting human trafficking and child exploitation. That was nice.

Not much changed, however, as thousands of the scandalous ads continued to crop up on the site. Just last month Tom Dart, Sheriff of Cook County, Illinois filed a federal lawsuit against Craigslist or as he called it, "the largest source of prostitution in America."

A veteran social worker source of mine in Oakland, California agrees with the Sheriff. She says Craigslist continues to be a major path of income for young girls she works with. Some of them brag that they were as young as 12 when they began to tap Craigslist classifieds whenever they needed to make some cold hard cash. For the men who responded - that was felony statutory rape.

CEO Buckmaster insists most of his site's classifieds are for furniture, appliances, jobs and legitimate services. Only about, "one percent of ads posted on Craigslist are in the erotic services section," he says. So, a question. If they constitute that small a contribution to Craigslist and the site makes no money from them why not take the high road and refuse to run them? Who among us wouldn't applaud that course of action? Wouldn't that be a better public relations move than insisting Craigslist is not culpable in any way?

I wonder what Craig himself thinks about all this. Yes, the site's founder, Craig Newmark, still works there as its iconic head and customer service representative. I wonder if he's totally proud of what his corporate creation has become.

>Diane Dimond's weekly columns can be found on her web site www.DianeDimond.net Daily posts are found on www.TrueSlant.com/dianedimond

 
 
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09:55 PM on 06/03/2009
Craigslist should not be charging $5 or $10 per ad for these ads. That could be seen as being an accessory to prostitution pretty easily. If they want to charge credit cards to establish identity, etc. they could charge a penny.

Other than that, Craigslist has no culpability and consenting adults should be free to do whatever they please.
04:02 PM on 05/16/2009
Sex Professionals of Canada, condemns Craigslist's decision to ban its Erotic Services category. By capitulating to the recent bad publicity, the website is conceding that they played a part in the murder of our colleague. They did not. The murderer is the one who is fully responsible for his actions and we hope he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Craigslist is no more responsible than they would be had the advertiser been offering a babysitting service or selling a used car.

A better approach for Craigslist would be to hold its ground and stand with sex workers and sex worker rights organizations. Instead, Craigslist has chosen to shield itself by limiting our choices. This only increases our vulnerability.

On behalf of Sex Professionals of Canada, (SPOC)
Amy Lebovitch and Valerie Scott
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03:12 PM on 05/13/2009
"Paddy cake" is pattycake with stereotypical Irishmen, I take it? You really CAN find anything on the internet!
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JLRoberson
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02:59 PM on 05/13/2009
NewMARK, not Newman. You might want to proof your column.
12:28 PM on 05/13/2009
Certainly its fair to call out Craigslist on the "Erotic Services" section, which is definitely filled with adds for prostitution. I agree with the author on this, Craigslist should remove that section and any and all adds related to prostitution.

However, I don't understand the point of the following comments:

"Besides the erotic services section there's a whole "Personals" section with subtitles such as: Women seek men, women seek women, men seeking men. Just what does Buckmaster think these people are seeking - a ping pong partner?"

First off, the personals section is just a place to find a date. I've used it before and met a few nice people. While I can't speak for everyone's motive on a personals site, since when are adults seaking out dates on the internet a problem? Why aren't you going after Match.com or eharmony as well then? No one is breaking the law placing a personals add to meet someone to date ..... so how is it related to your arguement about the Erotic Services section, which is clearly about someone paying for sex, which is illegal?

As mentioned, the Casual Encounters certainly is more skewed to "hooking up" with someone rather than moretarditional dating. But again, so what? Thirty years ago people used singles bars to hook up with someone (I'm sure they still do today as well) .... two people deciding to have a "casual encounter" isn't illegal so again ... what's the problem?
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Dale Andersen
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03:57 PM on 05/06/2009
Memo to andygaus:

Your statement that "when prostitution is legal, women and men can ply their trade in secure circumstances" ranks one click on the stupid meter below Miss Teen South Carolina's blather on South Africa...
jhNY
Mercy.
04:42 PM on 05/04/2009
It's not as of the Craigslist guys put a gun to the woman's head and made her respond to the listing. That would be the killer.
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Diane Dimond
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02:18 PM on 05/05/2009
As stated in the column and re-stated here - no one ever said anyone other than the killer was responsible for that woman's death. Oh, and I'll add - SHE was responsible too. ~DD
04:14 PM on 05/04/2009
You have just condemned every alternative newpaper in the US. Do you really want to drive the few remaining alternatives out of business?
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Diane Dimond
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02:16 PM on 05/05/2009
BobLaBlah -
what the hell are you talking about?
I'm a syndicated newspaper writer....I'm not advocating condemnation of "every alternative newspaper in the U.S."
Did you mean to say that I'm advocating getting rid of all classified ads, which provide the capital for those papers? Because if that's what you were trying to say you are completely off base.
Read the column again....it was about corporate responsibility and being straight and honest with customers.
Sheesh. ~ DD
03:09 PM on 05/04/2009
Andy below has a very good point, but that aside... since when do we hold corporations responsible for these kind of things? We don't blame Beretta or Colt when someone is killed with a firearm. We don't blame General Motors when someone is killed in a car accident. We don't blame Bacardi when someone drinks and drives. Craigslist is providing a service that millions of people make perfectly legitimate use of. Please stop trying to excuse those who twist it for illegal purposes by trying to shift the blame around. The blame belongs only in one place. With those who choose to do illegal things.
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Diane Dimond
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02:13 PM on 05/05/2009
Yoo-hoo! Guys .... I clearly said in the piece that I don't blame Craigslist for that woman's murder. She made free choices and while I think they were BAD CHOICES they were clearly hers to make and her fault.

My column was about the head-in-the-sand hypocrisy of the Craigslist response. None of our ads is sexual? Oh, come on! And further - if those ads constitute only 1% of their traffic and bring in NO REVENUE then how's about taking the high-road, Craigslist? ~ DD
02:19 AM on 05/06/2009
My apologies for misreading and misconstruing, but I personally don't see a reason why Craigslist should feel any need to respond at all - and they'd probably be better off if they didn't. It just gives the media more fodder. They provide a service. One no different than a million other services which can be twisted for illicit purposes, should someone decide to do so.
02:45 PM on 05/04/2009
Craigslist has every reason to be proud and no reason to be ashamed. What puts young women in danger is not Craigslist but the illegality of prostitution. As long as we try to "stamp out" prostitution by making it illegal, women will be at risk. When prostitution is legal, women and men can ply their trade in secure circumstances, can be inspected regularly for health concerns, and can go to the cops if they are abused. As long as prostitution is illegal, we will continue to have plenty of it, but the women who engage in it will be in danger with no one to turn to.
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Diane Dimond
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02:14 PM on 05/05/2009
Yeah, if I'm Craig I'm really really proud of the two years worth of negative publicity my brainchild company is getting.
09:39 PM on 05/05/2009
do some research, my friend. the theory that legalizing prostitution makes women safer does not match the reality on the ground. besides, murder, robbery, and rape are all illegal and we have plenty of them too.