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Diane Ravitch

Diane Ravitch

Posted: January 16, 2010 12:34 PM

Last week, the nation's press reported something that most teachers found unbelievable: Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, said that teachers should be evaluated by their students' test scores.

Teachers hate this idea because they know that teachers are not solely responsible for their students' scores. The students bear some responsibility, as do their families, for whether students do well or poorly on tests. District leaders bear some responsibility, depending on the resources they provide to schools. Teachers also are aware that the tests are not the only measure of what happens in their classrooms and that even the Secretary of Education Arne Duncan has said that we need better tests. There is a fairly sizable body of research demonstrating that test scores are affected by many factors beyond the teachers' control.
I was surprised too when I read the headlines and the press accounts.

But when I read Randi's speech on the AFT website, I discovered that the media stories were wrong. In fact, Randi offered a far more complicated and nuanced proposal than what was widely reported.

She laid out a far-ranging plan for evaluating teachers, which I suspect most teachers would find fair and reasonable. Here is what she said:

First, states should set out clear professional standards that describe clearly what teachers should know and be able to do. Then, to determine whether teachers meet these standards, districts should use "multiple means of evaluation," including classroom observations, self-evaluations, portfolio reviews, appraisal of lesson plans," and a variety of other tools, including student test scores. But the scores should be based on "valid and reliable assessments" and they should not be derived "by comparing the scores of last year's students with the scores of this year's students, but by assessing whether a teacher's students show real growth while in his classroom."

What this means is that districts would have to test students when they enter a specific classroom in the fall and again at the end of the school year to see how much progress they have made in that teacher's class. Hardly any district does this now. Most do exactly what Randi said was inappropriate: They test students in the spring and compare this year's students to last year's students. This is not a reasonable way to measure the teacher's effectiveness, since the groups will vary considerably from year to year.

Randi also said, as part of her package of prescriptions, that the goal of evaluation was not merely to identify teachers who were good or bad, but to help teachers get better at their work throughout their careers. So she proposed that every district should offer "solid induction, mentoring, ongoing professional development, and career opportunities that keep great teachers in the classroom."

In other words, Randi Weingarten laid out a very serious policy proposal, not a simplistic concession to allow schools to judge teachers by their students' scores. It is also an expensive proposal and very far removed from the now popular but simpleminded idea that teachers can be graded by whether their students get high or low test scores. Randi also made clear that the evaluation system must be adopted simultaneously with a fair system of due process. Neither alone is sufficient.

Only a day or so before Randi gave her speech at the National Press Club (January 12), the superintendent of schools in Houston and the Houston school board announced its intention to fire teachers based on their students' scores.

Houston, and other districts, should review Randi's ideas before proceeding.

 
 
 

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06:02 PM on 01/23/2010
Since Diane Ravith is critical of the press' interpretation of Randi's remarks I felt obligated to share the Houston Chronicle's interpretation of what Dr. Ravitch described as "firing teachers for their students' scores."
"The school board on Thursday gave initial approval to a policy that allows the district to dismiss teachers whose students consistently perform below expectations on standardized tests. The change represents a move to make personnel decisions based more on student learning instead of relying solely on principals' classroom observations of teachers.
Grier and school board members have emphasized that the district's goal is not to fire teachers but to help them improve. Teachers' job evaluations now will include their so-called value-added scores, a statistical measure of their effectiveness in helping students reach their potential on standardized exams."
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06:17 PM on 01/18/2010
I saw the name Randi in the title and thought it was about the amazing Randi. Disappointed!
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03:55 AM on 01/18/2010
I have no problem with teachers being held accountable for doing their job. I don't think that measuring that by comparing student scores across the board is the answer. Until every school has EXACTLY the same resources, curriculum, materials, training and staff....then you can't really compare. As it is, urban schools are bare (resources and support staff) while suburban schools have an overabundance. It is not fair to compare. And charter schools often have the option to hand pick their students and kick out the behavior problems and non performing (i.e. special ed)...no one ever mentions that.
scipio2009
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03:01 AM on 01/18/2010
Reforming the public education system in California (possible template for the entire system):

-Certify and re-certify all teachers every couple years.
-Create a framework/test to evaluate a teacher's performance, with a combination of factors, like student test scores, in class observations/assessments, etc.
-Give school boards the flexibility to remove ineffective principals.
-Give principals the flexibility to remove ineffective teachers.
-Reward teachers who are able to demonstrate that they are able to teach at a high level with 'bonus money'.
-Better compensate teachers, at the baseline level.
-Increase the incentives to motivate college students into becoming teachers, be it with grant money, loan assistance, or other incentives, with the caveat that those who commit to these incentives will also be committing their first few years in teaching to the public school system.
-Cap class sizes, in all cases that doing so would not affect the quality of education that is received, at 25 students.
11:59 PM on 01/17/2010
At the end of the day, we all know that our current school education system, measured by any yardstick is a colossal failure. All I can see here is teachers defending the status quo, with valid and not so valid excuses. These excuses do not solve the problems. The first step to solving problems is to admit that one exists. And I do not see that here.

We never had the current problems a generation ago. So what went wrong? Why cannot we do what we did a generation ago or whats done in the rest of the world; which does a better job at education at a fraction of the costs???
01:58 AM on 01/18/2010
Actually it's not a colossal failure. There are pockets of failure and those correlate with pockets of poverty. There are so many elements that go into a student's success or failure in the classroom. Let's fix the inequalities between districts and the inequalities between students before we start blaming the educational system as a whole.
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03:46 AM on 01/18/2010
You are right about not having the current problems a generation ago. Just to name a few things that are different: Families are failing to do their part, special ed kids are included in mainstream classrooms with no extra classroom support for teachers, video tv and computer games have stolen children's attention spans, testing has become more important than teaching and last of all....respectful behavior in school is a thing of the past.

Teachers are doing the same things they have always been doing, but they cannot make up for these things that create a classroom environment NOT focused on learning. Teachers have to spend too much time on behavior and testing rather than teaching.
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JusdaTruth
a proud child of the 60's
06:14 PM on 01/17/2010
Why hasn't anybody asked why test oriented curriculum's are directed at the poor in the inner cities. The suburbs are well equipped financially. Who will benefit from this type of "education" on the cheap for the poor. Charter schools for profit maybe. Maybe they will be given immunity from anti-trust laws and they will give us the same great service our health insurance industry gives us.
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Margery Kempe
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09:45 PM on 01/17/2010
You make an excellent point. Something about "test-oriented" education is deeply disturbing to me as an educator...for rich or urban districts. I am so glad that as a college professor, I do not have to deal with this crap when I teach, but my son is being tested out of his wits.

Whatever happened to having education be about the learning process or even the joy of learning?
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03:48 AM on 01/18/2010
Yeah, I find it interesting that professors are never mentioned as being held accountable for their teaching. Are their students measured for progress and learning? Nope.
05:39 PM on 01/17/2010
Randi is right to emphasize PROGRESS as the key focus of concern (fyi: it's called longitudinal tracking), and so are you, Diane, by writing this column. Now, please tell this to Illinois's state legislature and the city of Chicago - and many other states and cities - that are letting schools be closed and teachers fired with NO regard to PROGRESS made with students. Instead, the amazingly ill-advised focus of the state test results is on LEVEL, even though the measurements are of different groups of students, as you point out. The shocking result is that they're making fateful decisions while paying no attention at all to recognizing and rewarding the most effective and dedicated teachers. Truly Shameful.
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Erzsebet Gilbert
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03:01 PM on 01/17/2010
It may be important to ensure that the classroom is giving students a necessary education - but standardized testing isn't the way to do it. As other users have here pointed out, numerous factors influence scores, related to family, health, language, experience, moving, etc.... Moreover, how are multiple choice questions supposed to gauge intelligence in any viable or significant way?
With pressure to turn out students capable of high scores alone, teachers are forced to omit or minimize real education in favor of teaching-to-the-test, and most often this kind of lesson doesn't even stick past the test day. But I sincerely believe that real intelligence, actual and lifelong and valuable, isn't the sort of thing that can possibly be measured by a mere number. Intellect isn't only filling in a bubble about "cow is to pig as toaster is to..." It's a body of knowledge and method, and the creativity to use it.
And... sigh... I know students need "real-world" skills, and I'm an old idealist, but what the heck happened to learning for its own sake????
09:57 AM on 01/17/2010
It is similar to paying doctors based on if their patients are non-smokers with healthy BMIs and good diet, exercise and lifestyle choices.
09:39 AM on 01/17/2010
Parents should have an input but cannot have an input if they themselves are under-educated...
08:56 AM on 01/17/2010
Employees need to be fired when they are not doing their jobs, not just passed around. As dollars get more scarce in the future (and you ain't seen nothing yet) we need to get the best value for our tax dollars. Some people in the profession are not cut out to be teachers, simple fact, but tenure and unions make it prohibitively expensive to fire an ineffective teacher. We have to get past the notion that tax dollars are limitless.
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blindjester
English and ESL teacher
04:19 PM on 01/17/2010
I agree that bad employees should be fired. And sometimes they aren't--in any profession you want to name.

But it is just not true that unions prevent the firing of bad teachers. This is a myth. Teachers can be fired anywhere in America. It costs nothing to do it. It's an evaluation process.

People hope that the solution to problems in education are as simple as "better teachers." When you find out our teachers are just about as good as you can get (and I know a lot of really good teachers), you realize that the solutions are much more complex than you anticipated.
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10:40 PM on 01/16/2010
..So Randi said look at other factors besides test scores to evaluate teachers, but she DID say that it is all right to use test scores as part of teacher evaluation. As a UFT member, I have disagreed with her on this from the beginning. To suggest testing the same students at the beginning of the year, then again at the year's end in their subjects, then to use the "progress" measured to even partially evaluate their teacher is just plain wrong! There are already SO MANY tests that take up precious class time and, therefore, INTERFERE with learning instead of measuring it, that I just can't imagine adding MORE tests to an already overburdened student body! As a high school teacher, every year I found more time being dedicated to not only test prep, but to statewide, citywide, national, A.P., English proficiency, reading proficiency, and pilot tests, just to name a few. There was less time to actually TEACH each year!

Randi shouldn't agree to let teachers be even partially evaluated by their students' test scores because many students are absent for significant chunks of time (kids with health or family issues and ESL students who visit family overseas, for example). A student who's been absent a lot has missed important classroom time and won't make good progress. Using test scores to evaluate teachers insures one thing: more teaching to the test. THAT is not the same thing as teaching.
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JusdaTruth
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12:47 PM on 01/17/2010
So true Euranya. The problem is the AFT/UFT leaders are playing politics with this issue and don't want to seem like obstructionists to improving the schools. Even if the political forces want to tie tenure and teacher evaluations to test scores, the Union leaders know it is wrong. If teachers were going to be forced into this situation the Union should acknowledge that fact and continue to object to it even if they can't prevent it from happening.
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11:57 AM on 01/18/2010
Jusda,
You are correct. This is all about image, not truth. The union leadership should admit that tying test scores to teacher evaluation is wrong. However, Randi has always bee way too conciliatory on this point and other issues, rendering the UFT and now the AFT into paper tigers.
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TRex86
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09:21 PM on 01/16/2010
The tragedy of American imperialism has been the neglect of education. Our overseas adventures and the explosion of the prison-industrial complex at home have created a death spiral. Young people can join the military or deal drugs. High skill jobs have become scarce and qualified people equally so. As a product of California public education in the 60's I can attest to the success of investing in high quality education for all qualified students. Reagan ended all that. It's been downhill ever since.
07:19 PM on 01/16/2010
I do not see the balance of accountability all the way around. I see what is being asked of the teachers, but where is the accountability and requirements of the parents, school administration, and the students.
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FogBelter
Illegitimis non carborundum
07:05 PM on 01/16/2010
If you go into some school districts in some states (Texas and California for instance) you will find that many teachers have classrooms where English is the second language for many students and at home English isn't even spoken. The implications of this is that many students come into classrooms with language comprehension problems and when they go home they don't have parents with the language skills to help them with their school work. It would be unfair for Teachers to be held accountable in those situations for test scores designed for Students who are proficient in English. I figured that the media coverage of this statement by Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, was wrong, for certainly the President of the AFT would have a better understanding of the dynamics in the Modern American classroom than that.