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Posted: December 19, 2009 04:20 PM

Harry Reid Should be Asked: WWLBJD With Lieberman?

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If former Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Baines Johnson was still around today, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) would not be holding health care hostage. Droopy Joe would be singing soprano in the choir.

It's long past time for Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nevada) to ask, "WWLBJD?"

What Would Lyndon Baines Johnson Do ... with Joe Lieberman?

We all know the answer: by now, Joe would be an aging eunuch, looking around to find out which wall his proverbial drooping manhood had been nailed to.

If Harry Reid had some LBJ in him, Joe would not be Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee. And if President Obama had some LBJ in him, Joe would find it very hard to get anything done on his pet projects in Connecticut.

Just imagine if a hypocritical, back-stabbing 1960s Lieberman had told LBJ that he was going to hold hostage the creation of Medicare or Medicaid or the Civil Rights Act of 1964 until LBJ met Lieberman's demands.

Ha. You could have sold tickets to that conversation.

First, LBJ might have just laughed and acted like Joe was kidding. Then he would have tried to charm him. But if Joe didn't back up very quickly and completely, LBJ would have gripped Joe's jacket lapel, pulled him close, and leaned that huge body and intense face into Joe's suddenly shrinking persona.

And he would have asked, "Joe, do you like that committee chairmanship?"

"Oh, God, no," Droopy Joe would have wailed. "Not my chairmanship."

Then LBJ would have told Joe that if he ever wanted another federal dollar to be spent in Connecticut, he might want to reconsider his game playing.

If Joe still didn't back up, LBJ would have flashed that big Texas smile and told him to have fun living in the wilderness.

And LBJ would have already had Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) and Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) and Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) and all the blue dogs whipped into line. Along with a few Republican senators.

"Heel," LBJ would say. And the blue dogs would heel.

Of course, by now, Joe would have already been in the wilderness. Imagine what LBJ would have done if a 1960 Joe Lieberman had backed Nixon-Lodge against Kennedy-Johnson or a 1964 Lieberman had backed Goldwater-Miller against Johnson-Humphrey.

"Joe who?" LBJ would be saying today.

Yes, Harry Reid needs to ask, "WWLBJD?"

 
 
 
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08:30 PM on 12/21/2009
Agreed.

"LBJ would have gripped Joe's jacket lapel, pulled him close, and leaned that huge body and intense face into Joe's suddenly shrinking persona."

What's ironic, is we have already seen Obama do this to Joe. remember in the senate?
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LiberalDem
12:27 PM on 12/22/2009
Yep. LBJ would have brought Lieberman to heel, or else Lieberman's only leadership role would have been counting paper clips in his office...which would be the smallest, least desirable one available in the building.

But, Obama and his staff have no principles that they consider worth fighting for-that's why they are willing to make any and all deals.
01:47 PM on 12/22/2009
yes.

Obama and Lieberman, clinton, Rahm are all DLC best buddies.

the DLC democratic leadership council, corporate bribed fake dems.

Vote for the real Liberals, the "Progressive Caucus", Kucinich, Dean, Grayson, MoveOn picks.

Get Candidates to take the Pledge:

Outlaw all political contributions,

They are Bribes.

Bring Democracy to the USA.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
05:37 PM on 12/21/2009
WWJWJ?
What would John Wayne do?
10:57 AM on 12/21/2009
Somebody please make a WWLBJD Tshirt!!
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
01:41 PM on 12/21/2009
I'll buy the bumper sticker.
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John Garner
09:25 AM on 12/21/2009
Amen
07:39 AM on 12/21/2009
Lieberman loves big, sloppy Lobbyist BJs. What are you talking about?
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Rosanneofpgh
some days youre the dog;others the hydrant
03:14 AM on 12/21/2009
LBJ would have had lieberman for lunch and then spit him out.
09:28 PM on 12/20/2009
Both Reid and Obama do need to find their 'inner LBJ.' to get anything done. Good gawd we've supposedly got 60 freaking votes in the Senate but we can't pass anything good. Incredible!

Or take a page from the GOP playbook...... they don't allow their politicians to deviate from the party line one inch. Even though they are fundamentalist corporate whores, I have to admire their effectiveness and organization.
09:10 PM on 12/20/2009
What would LBJ do?

First he would reach out to the Republicans and get them on board.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed with a 82% of the Republicans backing it.

Obama has not done that.
09:32 PM on 12/20/2009
Republicans are under orders from their leadership to oppose anything President Obama and the Democrats are for. Whatever Obama is for------they are against it and it doesn't matter what 'it' is.

Obama could find a cure for cancer and republicans would make up excuses to oppose and criticize it.

The modern republican party is much more of a cult than the GOP of Johnson's era.
10:35 PM on 12/20/2009
Oh so right you are! Fanned.
07:42 AM on 12/21/2009
If Obama found a cure for cancer, Big Pharma would say "but we make waaaay too much money treating cancer. If you cure it, it will be bad for our bottom line!"
10:43 PM on 12/20/2009
That's where Obama made his mistake- trying to get a coalition bill passed, when he should have known it wasn't going to happen. (Jim DeMint declaring that defeating health care reform was the best way to 'bring down Obama' might have been a clue!). It was fear that LBJ might "reach out" in an unpleasant way that so persuasive.
08:32 AM on 12/21/2009
LBJ didn't write it of as knowing it won't happen. He made it happen. He invited Dirksen to the White House and worked with him. When was the last time McConnell went to the White House?
08:19 PM on 12/20/2009
I've said it before and I'll say it again: They are happy with LIEberman. He did exactly as he was told. Remember, he either is retiring in 2012 or running as a Repug. He was the perfect foil to pull off the gutting of this bill and the transformation of it into the biggest piece of corporate welfare in US history. Why do you think Obama thanked him after he did this? They want Droopy Joe to take all the heat so they can pretend that the plan wasn't cooked up by Reid, Obama, and Rahm. Unfortunately for them, the Left is not stoopid.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
01:44 PM on 12/21/2009
Don't forget the Daschle, the 5 star general of the lobbiests....
03:53 PM on 12/20/2009
And if LBJ were around today, Fox News would have shredded him to pieces by now for his liberalism. MSNBC would have been demanding his resignation because he made some intemperate comment about a minority.

In fact, LBJ probably would have made some anti-Semitic remark and Joe would be a martyr.

Lawsuits would have been filed by Connecticut Tax-Watch groups to protest the unfairness.

It's easy to be a legislative thug when 24/7 news stations aren't following your every move.

LBJ would be powerless to mess with Joe.
05:57 PM on 12/20/2009
In fact, LBJ was known for NOT being anti-Semitic, having saved 42 Jews from the Warsaw ghetto and arranging for the smuggling hundreds of Jews into the United States through Galveston.
While he certainly would have done something about Lieberman, he wouldn't have descended into bigotry and prejudice to do it. That would have been the tactics of a Richard Nixon, who constantly railed against the liberal political activism of Jews.
It's easy to blame the media for politicians not having the courage of their convictions but 24/7 news coverage is no excuse for our elected leaders not to do what they promised.
02:45 PM on 12/20/2009
At 6'4" tall LBJ was no one to fool with. He knew politics inside out, and was very effective before becoming V.P. LBJ used every tool in his vast arsenal of being the leader of the Democratic party. I would be the very first thing he would do is have Joes office moved. You can bet you sweet rear end Joe would be in a very small corner office in the basement. The pet projects would dry up in a flash, and of course his chairmanship would evaporate. Same thing for the so call Blue Dogs as well as tools like McCain who think they are tough. It is dirty unfair politics, but at least he wasn't afraid to resort to it if the cause was right.
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billw8017
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06:11 PM on 12/20/2009
His civil rights legislation had a close call with 5 Democratic Senators more than now and Republican support. Of course, more of the Democrats were "conservatives."
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11:00 AM on 12/20/2009
Yeah, great advice: Be LBJ, Harry. Like that's going to happen. Though it may add some pizzazz to his waning days in Washington, as curtain time is quickly approaching. Adieu, Harry, we barely knew ye. But the little we knew was more than enough, believe me.
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billw8017
Obama/Biden 2012
06:15 PM on 12/20/2009
Reid has worked a marvel in herding his 60 cats and keeping them together. It's more a triumph on behalf of our nation than for Nevada alone. As such it is a model of disinterested patriotism that he does not come out of without some scars.
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Jim Jaffe
09:19 PM on 12/19/2009
I take it your description of LBJ is how he convinced Ev Dirksen to support the civil rights act?
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a long the riverrun
01:15 PM on 12/21/2009
Ah, a conservadem apologist for Congress's ineptitude chimes in.
09:14 PM on 12/19/2009
Lieberman would be toast. When LBJ was Senate Majority Leader he was just that......Leader. No if's, and's or but's.
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billw8017
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06:25 PM on 12/20/2009
William Proxmire of Wisconsin made his reputation by opposition to LBJ, the party leader and won election with 60+% of the vote and less than a $100 campaign expenses.

Republican Warren Knowles telling how he had won the governorship over Proxmire somewhat before described a "carpet bagger" and "ivy leaguer" from the east who was married to a Rockefeller, and got the question,"Did you choose him, yourself?" This changed when Proxmire finally entered the Senate.

Proxmire was a character and a perpetual campaigner. Maybe everybody in Wisconsin shook his hand at some point.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
01:47 PM on 12/21/2009
I don't understand the second paragraph, but it sounds very very interesting...
02:43 PM on 12/21/2009
I don't recall Senator Proxmire ever campaigning for a Republican. However I do remember, with great delight, his wonderful Golden Fleece Award.
08:59 PM on 12/19/2009
I read somewhere that Harry Reid grew up in a mining town, hardscrabble, fight-for-everything-you-get environment. Sure is hard to believe now the way that wimpy SOB gets slammed around by the likes of Lieberman, Nelson, and Landrieu.

We can forget about Reid or President Obama using those tactics. They are "bred and broken" Dems in the finest tradition of today's Democratic party. I really hate to say that because I'm a Democrat. But, it's true.