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Are Primary Care Physicians Going Extinct?

Posted: 05/03/11 09:28 AM ET

Fewer medical students are entering general internal medicine these days, recent headlines trumpet. But this primary care problem has been going on for some time. And for family medicine (which is the other main specialty that makes up the field of primary care*), there are concerns as well. At my institution, Saint Louis University School of Medicine, the number of students choosing family medicine went up this year, although last year the numbers had dropped by 50 percent from 2009. Nationally, the number of students matching in family medicine in 2011 increased for the second year in a row. This was an encouraging change to a downward trend we've been experiencing and hopefully it will continue.

The matter of declining -or simply not enough- primary care physicians is a huge problem because the numbers of those in need of general medical services are going in the other direction: up, up, up.

The number of Baby Boomers, who will be needing more health care in coming years, is expected to jump from 40.2 million in 2010 to 54.6 million in 2020. And with health reform opening the flood gates to all those who are currently uninsured, the numbers of people clamoring to see the doctor will go even higher.

The huge problem with this, which I barely saw anyone talking about during the ongoing health reform debates, is who, exactly, is going to be providing all this care? The primary care work force is already overburdened and burning out. Add heavier patient loads onto fewer workers who can share the cases (another point is that many doctors currently in practice are planning to retire or transition to other careers much earlier than in years past), and you can see the writing on the wall.

Houston, we definitely have a problem.

As I mentioned, this is nothing new. Compared to many other developed countries, America has a higher ratio of specialists to primary care physicians. About one-third of all physicians in America are primary care physicians, compared to half of doctors in most other industrialized countries.

It is obvious how this shortage of primary care physicians can affect you: Firstly, who ya gonna call when you aren't feeling well? Secondly, the adverse effects of this shortage are far-reaching when it comes to the cost and quality of medical care. A primary care doctor has the potential to lower your costs in many ways. Having more primary care docs can lower health spending per individual. Also, having more primary care physicians in a given area is associated with less use of health care services. In fact, each 1-percent increase in the proportion of primary care physicians has been associated with 503 fewer hospital admissions, 2,968 fewer emergency room visits, and 512 fewer surgeries for an average-sized metropolitan area.

And this means more to your health than you might realize: Adults with a primary care physician have been found to have lower health care expenses and a lower risk of death. Primary care has also been linked to lower death rates from cancer and heart disease, longer life expectancy, and better health overall. Care from primary care physicians has also been linked to improved patient satisfaction and well being.

This shortage of primary care docs hits at a time when we can ill-afford the deficiency. It arrives at a time when millions of new patients, many of whom will have much greater need of the health care system, come flooding in. My advice? Make sure you have a primary care physician now, and try to use the health care system less by doing your part in avoiding costly chronic disease that are largely preventable. I have loads of specific tips for you along this vein in my book The New Prescription: How to Get the Best Health Care in a Broken System.

*(Pediatrics and OB-GYN are the other two that make up the big four specialties in primary care, but for the purpose of this piece, I am focusing on primary care doctors who carry the greatest load in primary adult medicine.

 
 
 

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Fewer medical students are entering general internal medicine these days, recent headlines trumpet. But this primary care problem has been going on for some time. And for family medicine (which is the...
Fewer medical students are entering general internal medicine these days, recent headlines trumpet. But this primary care problem has been going on for some time. And for family medicine (which is the...
 
 
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10:51 PM on 05/04/2011
Our doctor sees my grandmother, my parents, my brothers, my niece and nephew and the 7 of us. I am grateful everyday for him. He has been amazing through the years. I appreciate his insights and interest in us as a family. For those who haven't experienced this type of care I am sorry for you. However I feel it is in everyones best interest to support doctors and nurses to become their best. Good luck to those entering the field and to those searching for a doctor who they too can be thankful for.
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Margo Arrowsmith
Elizabeth Warren in 2016!
06:20 AM on 05/05/2011
Fanned!  A good old family doctor! 

These days people are going to have to be their own PCP.  Or perhaps find a good PA who are more likely to do general practice.

http://changingtheguardblog.com/
03:03 PM on 05/04/2011
I've actually written about this: Declarations of a Dinosaur; 10 Laws I've Learned as a Family Doctor. It's even the tag line of my blog: Musings of a Dinosaur: Solo Family Practice; I may be going the way of the dinosaur, but I'm not dead yet.
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DaveChase
CEO of Avado, a patient relationship management co
12:12 PM on 05/04/2011
Primary care doctors and patients should do themselves a favor and go to the HuffPost search bar and search for "Do it yourself health reform". Doctors and patients win in the model laid out. There's also a link in that article to a little reported aspect of last year's health law. It addresses the fact that we're paying what I call a 40% "insurance bureaucracy tax".

Does one really need insurance for routine primary and preventive care? No. But somehow health care has become synonymous with health insurance. Insuring primary care is like insuring lunch. You know you're going to need it. You know you can afford it. Why on earth would you pay a third party to pay the restaurant on your behalf, adding overhead and taking a big chunk out of the money you pay—and because of the process, have to wait a week to get a table and then have only 10 minutes to eat?

The model ref'ed in the DIY Health Reform piece has shown it reduces the most expensive aspects of care (surgery, ER & specialist visits) by 40-80%. Denmark "stole" this idea from the U.S. decades ago. It's been so successful, they closed many hospitals as they simply weren't needed. Ben Franklin was right - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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mudman
10:47 AM on 05/04/2011
Wow, Matthew Christopher, jsgaetano and mixpixlix must be really smart and talented. They can accurately diagnose themselves and with a little familiarity of how the human body are able to manage any of the complex chronic illnesses that humans get. I'm assuming you have a working knowledge of all the medications out there, their adverse effects, contraindications, interactions with other medications and food. Not to mention all the risks and benefits of testing and knowing when it's safe to just watch and wait and when you need to act more urgently. I didn't realize that what I did could be done by anyone with a modem and initiative. Either the 3 of are lucky and haven't ever been sick or you are just here to be snarky provacateurs. You want to be your own doctors, go ahead. It's like what they say about a man who is his own lawyer, he has a fool for a client. If you have some idea that only subspecialists (because all primary care doctors, whether general internists, or family practitioners ARE specialists) are of value, then go find one who will take care of your parents when they have dementia with psychotic features, and type 2 diabetes and congestive heart failure and need to be on multiple medications, but they can't because some of the medications don't agree with the other ones. And,to be clear, I have no issues with nurse practitioners or physicians assistants. We work together. But we do different things.
08:00 AM on 05/04/2011
The so called CRISIS related to lack of primary care physicians is not new, it's been the rally call of some sections of the physician community for nearly 3 decades. It's a lot of hooey, too! I moved to a relatively small town in TN almost 5 years ago. I was startled at how many physicians set up practice here, and at their big city prices.

Since physicians work far fewer hours than they did a generation or so ago, waiting time for an appointment can be a week or longer. If the caller feels like it's an emergency from a cut to asthma, they are advised to go to the hospital. This only runs up the bill.

I was so turned off by the greedy let do this test and that test attitude of physicians here , I found a physician's assistant who understands that budget constraints apply, picks pharmecuteticals off the Wal-Mart $4 list and when a referral is necessary tries to find a physician to work within the patients financial constraints.

Of course there are times that high-tech is necessary. But if you need a scan make sure you go to a free standing facility and NOT one that is hospital based. The cost difference is astounding, especailly if the hospital is doctor owned.
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Matthew Christopher
07:38 AM on 05/04/2011
We would have more primary care docs if there wasn't an artificial shortage of doctors due to medical school's actively preventing new ones from opening.

In reality the answer is nurse practicioners, you don't need 10 years of training to diagnose the diseases that primary care doctors take care of. In many cases the internet has enough information to tell you what is wrong with you (assuming some level of intelligence of course). There are specialists for the more complex things, and as you noted we have more than enough of them.
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jsgaetano
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01:37 AM on 05/04/2011
I've always had a lot of trouble and frustration dealing with so-called "primary care" doctors.
 
Best advice I can tell people is to familiarize yourself with how the human body works, and what areas of the medical profession deal with what sorts of problems, then do limited self-diagnosing, and try checking with a specialist in the first place.
 
It's better going to one doctor who knows what's wrong because he's seen it a million times than it is having to deal with a primary care doctor guessing at what the problem is, and not knowing what the best and most current kind of medicine or proceedure is to treat it.
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Matthew Christopher
07:39 AM on 05/04/2011
It's funny, I basically said the same thing before I read what you wrote. I agree completely. Before I go to the doctor I almost always have a good idea what they will say is wrong with me (unless it's an emergency of course). This way I don't end up getting prescriptions I don't need or diagnoses that make no sense.
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05:00 PM on 05/16/2011
Or you could get the specialist who diagnoses you with something he's seen a million times and it's something else entirely. (When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail)
12:04 AM on 05/04/2011
I'm a specialist. Yes, lots of doctors are moving toward specialties. But its not all about money. Its about the job quality. Medical care has become so much more complex over the last 30 years but the amount of time physicians have to spend with patients has decreased. Most of us are not drawn to medicine by the money you can make. We sincerely desire to be helpful. But the brutal schedules of trying to see 20-30 patients every day (which is typical for a primary care doctor) and dealing with every increasing amounts of paperwork is burning doctors out. How can you be a physician if you are only given 15-20 minutes per patient? It’s just rush, rush, rush. Modern medicine is starting to reach the point where increasing complexities of testing, medications, medical records, insurance and so on, is no-longer enhancing our well being. In the last 20 or more years we've seen an explosion of medical testing, medications, surgeries, and other treatments but no change in life expectancy or quality of life for most Americans. Throwing more money at doctors won't help. You'll have to give them back a quality of life which includes seeing fewer patients per day, spending more time with each patient and getting rid of much of the burdensome complexity. Read The Collapse of Complex Societies by Joseph Tainter. Then look at the medical system. What he says about societies in general applies quite nicely to medicine.
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mudman
12:29 AM on 05/04/2011
I'm a general internist and I agree, it's not about the money. I actually like what I do. I like my patients, I like to help them manage their chronic diseases and I like to see them improve. I agee that the last couple of decades has seen an explosion in things that we are able to do, but only now are people starting to research whether we should be doing them. A lot of the time I feel like the most important thing I do is protect people from unnecessary testing and unnecessary treatments. Not only are many of the tests and treatments unnecessary, many can be harmful.
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Brash and Harsh
01:37 AM on 05/04/2011
rbeck999

Let me suggest a solutions to your problem of getting a better "quality of life".

a) Go to electronic record keeping. Other professions have done it years ago.

b) Think about learning to live on $150,000 a year, plus your interest income, the income you make as a "consultant", and the free vacations you get to give a lecture.

That might require you to spend less time stressing over the fluctuations in the stock market.

c) If you have a very high mortgage payment, think about living in a regular gated community, not in a "doctor's house". If your mortgage is paid for, then sell your mansion, buy a smaller home, and invest the rest.

d) Of course you drive a car worth over $75,000. You can get a nice ride for $40,000. Of course that will give you less prestige. Consider reducing the number of cars you own to two. It will reduce your INSURANCE bill, which I am sure you hate.

d) As a specialist you must earn over $200,000 a year, probably closer to $500,000. PLEASE
CORRECT me if I am wrong.

e) Consider having your spouse do more than appear at charity events as the "doctor's wife".

f) Consider spending less than a $1,000 a month on eating out.

g) Cancel your next cruise, unless someone else pays you to take it.

Then you can have a better "quality of life.

Before you attack me in response, kindly mention your gross and net income.
MommyMD
MD, Professor, Mom
02:38 AM on 05/04/2011
Let me answer in defense of rbeck: I know this is only my story not his/hers.
You had two d's, so I will include them each:
d. I am a specialist too. I make 150,000/yr and still have 300K to pay back for my schooling. No consulting.
d. I spent 13 years earning < $3000/month for 100+ hours/week. This is less than minimum wage.
d. I drive an old Honda Accord. My husband drives a '95 Passat (he is also a specialist).
c. We cannot afford a home now, with two kids. We rent.
e. I am the doctor's wife and the doctor.
f. I have eaten out 3 times in the past 3 years
g. Never been on a cruise. One vacation in the past 3 years.
-We have two small children who go to public. school.
a. Electronic record keeping is often NOT in the best interest of pt. care. Unless medical records can "talk" to each other...get lab results etc, they are worthless.

-I am sorry if you have been disappointed in your medical care. I'm sure you spend enough money. But there are wonderful doctors who have given up their twenties and thirties to give you stellar care. Please write to your congress person regarding the terrible health care system we have now.

h. I expect your insurance company CEO is driving a lovely car.
06:00 AM on 05/04/2011
I'm a physician in the US military. While I make more money than many other people in the military, my pay is below that of many physician assistants working in the private sector. I make about $100,000 per year. I am on call 7 days a week. I work about 55 hours per week. I don't own a home. I have one car that is worth about $4000. I started medical school at the age of 33 after working as an educator for 8 years making about $12,000-$20,000 per year. I would never say that I make too little money being a doctor. I feel very fortunate to have a job at this time when many people around the world are struggling. But here's the problem, currently there is no way for most physicians to decide to work further hours or see fewer patients, or even to make less money. Most of us are hired employees of businesses or the government, and the jobs we take are not flexible. The hospitals want us to work even harder, this is how they make money, they will not willingly let us scale it back. The work I do generates income for about a half dozen people. There are very few part-time or reduced load jobs for physicians. It’s nearly an all or nothing situation. For many of us, you can take the relatively high salary and be extremely unhappy or you can get the heck out.
11:51 PM on 05/03/2011
Primary care is a ripoff for physicians.
Most are now EMPLOYEES. Corporate managers control much of a doc’s life – such as patient QUOTAS. Since managers must be cost-centric, there may be less support, increasing clerical loads on physicians. (Since support staffs often do NOT report to docs, they are often able to unload many tasks to the physicians, especially in unionized situations.) Some new information systems add HOURS of work each day to the docs’ workload, turning docs into data entry clerks. (Generally true when management selects systems without doc input, genuine Dilbert situations. Systems that work just fine for non-docs in a hospital may be disasters for physicians themselves.) Docs pay is mostly stagnant – given typical long hours, some specialty nurses may earn a higher wage on a per-hour basis than primary docs, with a much shorter work week and no real legal liability. Specialist docs often disrespect primary care – they'll dump their own followup work on the primary docs if they can. In corporate arenas, primary care docs generally are at the bottom of the pecking order, with specialists ruling the roost. Docs can be penalized if their patients do not do well - EVEN given that many patients will not follow docs’ orders (I suspect patient ignorance and stubbornness may be the greatest underreported threat to the entire health system). I doubt many docs will recommend a primary care specialty to their children.
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Brash and Harsh
02:02 AM on 05/04/2011
Gandalfix

Such suffereing that doctors endure. Maybe they should consider being teachers, soldiers, lawyers, bus drivers, engineers, artists, chefs, accountants, professors, social workers, politicians, architects, or dentists. Oh, I FORGOT, no job pays as well as being a doctor.

How they do suffer, having to conform to the rules of a workplace, having to deal with people they can't fully control, having to deal with an ignorant public, having to deal with arrogant collegues who think they are better than they are.

Oh, I FORGOT, that seems to apply to every job there is.
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Matthew Christopher
07:43 AM on 05/04/2011
Sounds like a normal job. Being a doctor is similar to being a car mechanic, you are just more highly trained, more trusted, and better paid.
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mudman
11:47 PM on 05/03/2011
Post continued:

Somehow, people have missed the above message and have used this board to attack primary care doctors as greedy, lazy, useless, a barrier to actually getting good care. There is no other specialty that does what we do (and yes, general internal medicine and family medicine are specialties and require multiple years of residency training after medical school). People who try to get care for their multiple chronic conditions from multiple subspecialists end up with crappie care. Even subspecialists would agree with that. Cardiologists, pulmonologists, gastroenterologists, etc. don't have the interest or the skills to diagnose broadly across disciplines or to manage multiple, often competing, problems.
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mudman
11:42 PM on 05/03/2011
I think a lot of people on this board have missed the whole point of this post. The way payment for medical care occurs in this country favors procedures over cognitive work. Over time that has skewed salaries so that there is now a huge gap in income between primary care physicians and subspecialists. This has occurred at the same time as the cost of medical school has exploded, causing many students to graduate with enormous debts. The income differential combined with the debt burden has skewed the distribution of medical specialties. For the last couple of decades many more med school graduates have been choosing subspecialties over primary care. They are allowing economics to dictate specialty choices rather than need, or even what they enjoy doing and are good at. I like being a general internist, and I personally feel like primary care doctors make a fine living and don't really understand people's need to have so much income. But students indebted with a quarter of a million dollars of debt or more don't see it that way. They are scared they will never pay off their loans. The implications of a shortage of primary care doctors is a more expensive and frankly poorer quality system of care. The subspecialists need me and I need them. The patients need me much more frequently than they need subspecialists and their care suffers when they can't find primary care doctors.
MommyMD
MD, Professor, Mom
03:00 AM on 05/04/2011
Fight the good fight, mudman, I'd be priveledged to have a consult from you any day. (Endocrine)
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mudman
10:54 AM on 05/04/2011
Thanks. It's sad to me how ignorant people are about what doctors actually do everyday. This perception that we are all greedy and just in it for the money is just damaging to society. I don't think any of my patients would ever think that what I do is just make money at their expense. Oh well. By the way, I drive an old Mazda 3. Can't really afford the Beemer : )
10:14 PM on 05/03/2011
Who needs primary care doctors when I have Web MD? A person can self diagnose themselves by spending a few hours on the internet better than a primary care doctor can in the 2 minutes they are in the room with you. If the doctors monopoly on being the gatekeeper to effective medicines was eliminated primary care physicians could be eliminated easily.
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mudman
10:45 PM on 05/03/2011
Let us know how that turns out when you have a constellation of serious symptoms that requires testing. But what test? Hmm, might need someone who actually knows the operating characteristics of the tests (false positive, false negatives etc.). You might want someone who knows when a symptom is serious and needs further evaluation and when it's self limiting. You might want someone who knows the risks and benefits of doing tests and prescribing treatments. You might want. . . . a friggn doctor. Apparently all those years I spent in school were for nothing. I could have just studied Web MD. Who do you think writes the articles on Web MD?
11:05 PM on 05/03/2011
Touched a nerve have I? I didn't say there wasn't a need for doctors just primary care ones. I have allergies and I get ear infections about once a year. Every time I have to go to a primary care doctor and pay him off for about $100 for the privilege of buying a $4 course of antibiotics.

Technology changes things. I am a mechanical engineer. We used to have something called draftsmen that did drawings for us. Now we have CAD software that lets us do our own drawings. The same with Medicine. Expert software systems can do a great job at diagnosing symptom because the patient can spend much more time with the software than they can a doctor that is constantly checking his watch so he can make it to the next patient. Now if there is something potentially serious the software would make the recontamination to see a specialist.
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Matthew Christopher
07:46 AM on 05/04/2011
How often do people actually get a situation where there are cascading serious symptoms? Maybe once or twice in their life? I have to go to the doctor about once a year for sinus infections from allergies. I know exactly what is wrong with me and what the treatment is within about 24 hours of it starting. Of course I still have to go to a doctor to get some freakin penicillin (and tell them "no, I don't need the other 3 things you want to give me"). If primary care doctors were seen only when needed the load on them would be much less. Bring on more nurse practicioners.
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05:20 AM on 05/04/2011
Once a year I go to the doctor for my thyroid medicine and thyroid tests. I could easily manage it myself. I wish I could make big bucks so easily. Of course, if I had a problem that I was not intimately familiar with, I would seek medical advice. But the thyroid prescriptions are an unnecessary bonanza created by free market restrictions.
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Brash and Harsh
09:46 PM on 05/03/2011
Let me add a personal note to my previous comment.

I am a white American of European descent. (Such disclosures seem to be de rigour these days).

I have been on Medicare Advantage for two years.

The first year I paid the Medicare Advantage provider $96 that was taken directly from my Social Security check. That included Part D.

This January I switched to a new Medicare Advantage Provider and I pay NO PREMIUM whatsoever. Nothing is taken from my check.

The Reason:

Almost all of the Internists provided by my new Medicare Advantage provider are foreign born. My new provider is of Maylay descent and was educated in a Caribbean medical school. He did his internship and residency in New York. He is Board Certified in both Internal Medicine and Geriatrics.

In addition he is thorough, very comptent, and unlike many American trained doctors, a very pleasant person.

I had to change doctors to my new policy. My old doctor, who by the way was born and educated in Mexico, would not take the lower reimbursement provided by my new Medicare Advantage Provider.

My old doctor was very good, but he moved into a much more expensive office, and needed more money that the new office. He also drives a nice sports car. He was, also an excellent doctor.

Allow in those foreign born doctors who meet All of our requirements. It will be good for them, good for America, and keep medical expenses down.
MommyMD
MD, Professor, Mom
04:02 AM on 05/04/2011
Foreign born docs may be great. But Americans who can only get into Carribean med schools are often (no always) subpar. Why not repair our health system (disgusting for patients and providers alike) so more bright people go into medicine (instead of business or law)?
Oh yes, no attacks please. See my above post about compensation. Just trying to be honest and helpful.
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Brash and Harsh
09:25 PM on 05/03/2011
This is in support of PaulArt:

I agree we need to return the medical profession to the model we have used througout the history of our country.

We need to do what we have done throughout our history. Encourage QUALIFIED immigrants who meet all of the requirements for the job. Pass all license requirement, including background check, and language proficiency.

We allow qualified physical therapists into this country, because we have a shortage. Why not physicians?

The answer is the American Medical Associaltion. That is one cartel (read union or anti-competitive conspiracy) that needs to be busted.
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Overshadow
intellectual honesty, one issue at a time
03:09 PM on 05/05/2011
The AMA is not a union... it is an interest group for physicians. A single stakeholder among tens of thousands. All groups are entitled to expressing their opinions and trying to influence policy in our system of pluralism. It is the responsibility of lawmakers/ policymakers to decide and cast votes on how things are done...

I don't think every problem can be solved with importing cheaper labor. That can be part of a solution of course, but it doesn't address the underlying issues that have caused the shortage in the first place.
09:05 PM on 05/03/2011
you barely saw anyone talking about this during the healthcare debate??
maybe you only listened to its supporters, opponents have long predicted a shortage of doctors especially with the expansion of Medicaid to include 30 million more people
The reason medical students go into specialties instead of primary care is because reimbursement is so much higher. That is a result of the Medicare reimbursement schedule which pays highly for procedures but not consultations. Private insurance adopted the same schedule. It has been a major driver of healthcare costs as providers adapt to maximize revenue.
Just another success of socialized medicine which liberals now want to extend to the rest of us through ObamaCare
The solution: change reimbursement to pay for an episode of care instead of pieces of it, pay according to outcomes, incentivize patients to seek out the most efficient and best providers, a good generalist would do well in such a system
Unfortunately, that system is not ObamaCare
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10:58 PM on 05/03/2011
Another very important factor that has contributed to a shortage of primary care doctors is medical school loans, which had been run by the banks for a very long time. Instead of looking out for the good of society, the banks sought to squeeze medical school students so they could make bigger profits. I totally disagree with your solution because paying for outcomes means insurers would only cover the healthiest people and stops the sickest people from geting care. To not provide the sickest people care is inhumane.
11:51 PM on 05/04/2011
if you don't reward efficient medical pratice, it will remain inefficient
there is no reason why the sickest would be denied care in such a system
there premiums would be higher but they would receive greater subsidies

re banks, its not their responsibility to "look out for the good of society" but to make profits
any medical student who was being "squeezed" could take his business somewhere else, that is how competition works and we neeed to extend it to healthcare too
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intellectual honesty, one issue at a time
03:13 PM on 05/05/2011
I agree...It's not just that reimbursement is higher- it is the fact that current reimbursement does not cover costs to keep the doors open.

Some people run with the 'docs want more money = greed' argument... but really it is basic economics. We don't expect other professions to do their highly skilled labor at a loss.

Medical-loss ratio is the key, in my opinion. Outcome-based care reimbursement has a TON of holes in it, especially for certain specialties.