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There's No Such Thing as a Bully

Posted: 12/14/11 10:32 AM ET

Scandalous -- of course there are bullies! A bully is anyone who is mean to my darling child! Any kid who doesn't invite my child, who teases or mocks or pushes my boy, who turns a shoulder or doesn't answer a question, who chooses to hang out with someone else is a bully, right?

Except, wait a minute. My darling children have done some of those things to others. I'm sure they didn't mean it, of course! After all, nice kids aren't bullies, right? And bullies are mean, contemptible kids who will grow up to be thugs who are never happy, don't you think?

Sorry, no.

Everyone who has ever lived with a child knows that the most wonderful, good-hearted kids can behave in an ugly fashion at times. The idea that kids adopt a social role in elementary school and then live that role every day for the rest of their childhood is both naĂ¯ve and dangerous.

As Rachel Simmons, author of Odd Girl Out pointed out last year in her Newsweek article "The Nine Most Common Myths About Bullying" social roles flex and change constantly. The vast majority of children and teens will find themselves in each of the three roles in any bullying encounter -- victim, bully, bystander -- on different occasions.

So it's naive to label kids as bullies. Honestly, for a generation of parents who would cut out their own tongues before "labeling" a kid, you'd think this would be easier to avoid!

Why is it dangerous to call someone a bully? Because a bully is a bad kid. A bully is mean, contemptible, to be avoided or shunned. With all the anti-bullying curricula in schools, kids are crystal clear about this -- a bully is the villain. When a child or even a teen hears that she is a bully, she may very well feel stuck. Is this the only role available now? If she's "bad" it can seem impossible to fix.

Further, as a parent I have to argue with anyone who labels my kid as a bully. That is a condemnation. Tell me my child has behaved badly and I can jump in to improve the situation. Call my kid a bully? My knee jerk reaction may land my knee in your groin. Figuratively speaking, of course. Mostly.

Bullies are hard to redeem. Bullying behavior is much easier to change.

Most of our kids will bully someone -- a younger sib, a classmate, even a friend -- this school year. So how can we actually help? Stop calling anyone a bully. Start labeling the behavior instead of the kid.

Bullying behavior can be fixed. Feeling victimized can be stopped. Bystanders can use empathy to show leadership. All of these conversations are easier when adults recognize what kids already know -- almost all kids bully sometimes and almost all kids get bullied on occasion.

Change the conversation!

Take heart. If you completely disagree and you're about to blast me in the comments, you're not a bully! Just don't forget the empathy to limit your potentially bullying behaviors...

 

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04:36 PM on 12/16/2011
This article, and the accompanying comments are interesting to me, in that my program is called "No Such Thing as a Bully". I've received some flack about the title as well, but the material has been well-accepted by people who are looking for solid solutions and ideas to teach their children.
When I go into classrooms, I ask "Who in here is a bully." Usually no one says they are. Very sadly in one classroom a 7 year old stood up and said "I am a bully". And here we see the comments of adults being taken in by a child and used to create his sense of being. Will he ever see himself differently? Not unless we make some sweeping changes in the perspectives we're currently using to deal with, and talk about bullying issues. I hope we do it in time for him.
I've written a post about Casey Heynis and Richard Gale as well...two CHILDREN. But when adults become involved and start throwing around labels and comments, we are using bully actions as well. Some of the things said on the internet after this situation was publicized were absolutely horrendous. http://kariusandassociates.com/?p=463 In case anyone has the time or desire to have a read. More about our program can be found at http://nosuchthingasabully.com
11:24 AM on 12/16/2011
Better to realize we have a bully gene, everyone of us. If we can't kick our boss, we kick our spouse, or the cat. Not naming bullying behavior unacceptable is siding with violence and makes you an accomplance and does not respect the victim's right.

When I cared for delinquent foster children if hitting erupted both were punished, but I also knew damn well which kids were not provoking. My strategy then, the bullies had to protect that kid from all bullying. Some even became friends.
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Dr. G
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12:27 PM on 12/16/2011
That is a very useful strategy, especially in the home. And thank you for caring for foster kids.
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dadw5boys
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02:30 AM on 12/16/2011
Bullys do exist. Just ask any kids who plays sports and takes positions on teams away from the Popular Kids because they have more talent. I was one of those kids and attacked by several guys who tried to hurt me so their friend could get the star position bad. My own son was recently slammed to the mat hard injuring his back. He took a star position on his team from a friend of the guy he had to prastice with.
Bullies do exist and often their attacks are planned even paid for.
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Dr. G
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12:26 PM on 12/16/2011
This is true if you define a bully as someone who exhibits awful bullying behavior. Which is exactly the definition we've used for years. I'm only encouraging adults to talk about the behaviors so that it's addressed every time, not to write off a kid based on his bad behavior.
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09:29 PM on 12/15/2011
I agree with you. As a teacher sometimes it's hard not to "label" kids and focus instead on the behavior. All kids have good in them, sometimes because of their circumstances all the good gets covered up by the negative behavior. You have to make a concentrated effort to really hone in on the root of the bullying behavior. Why is this child bullying and how can you connect with that child to help them understand the effects of their actions and words. Sometimes the kids that are doing the bullying are the ones that are struggling the most.
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Dr. G
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12:25 PM on 12/16/2011
Absolutely true. But even if adults can't find anything lovable or admirable about a child who is bullying, we still need to lead that child on a path out of the behavior that can be so damaging.
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10:27 AM on 12/15/2011
Having been bullied during my K-12 days, I can state most emphatically that there ARE identifiable bullies, who pick on others for no discernible reason whatsoever, other than that they can. There are also lots of great kids who NEVER bully others. Sure, it's true that all of us have moments of weakness but it's a matter of degrees. Furthermore, the bullies of childhood often carry their behaviour over into the workplace...
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Dr. G
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05:55 PM on 12/15/2011
There are absolutely kids who spend a great deal of time bullying, and that is not acceptable. Children and adults should be held accountable for all bullying behavior - I couldn't agree more.
04:31 PM on 12/14/2011
I do think there is such thing as a bully -- but in order to be a bully, one needs a victim. I was bullied brutally from childhood, first by my father, then by my peers as a child and a teen, then by strangers as an adult. I'm sure there have been studies; perhaps otherwise normal, if not healthy, kids will bully when a opportunity presents itself. You could say I was a walking opportunity. I blame my situation on the fact that I was conditioned to be a target. As for the people who bullied me, some people do seem more predisposed than others. Some bullies are downright sadistic, torturing animals, exhibiting violence towards weaker people or even peers to the point of sociopathic behavior. I believe a bully-victim dynamic can escalate dangerously out of control, especially in a group vs. scapegoat situation, as in the case of Dylan and Eric -- also an example that retaliation is not a solution. That event in particular shows that "victims" can ultimately inflict the worst damage. I support zero tolerance; it needs to be nipped in the bud as quickly as possible. Violence isn't the only form of bullying; verbal cruelty, threats, hurtful rumors, humiliation, blackmail, vandalism, and theft may not involve bodily harm, but I believe administrators have an obligation to monitor such behavior and enforce limits. Experience has shown me some tormentors require intervention as they will not stop until someone stops them.
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Dr. G
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06:36 PM on 12/14/2011
I am sorry for your pain. You are absolutely right that bullying requires intervention. Certainly many tormentors will not stop until someone steps in. I wish you all the best and hope that you are able to stop the cycles of violence that have victimized you.
04:14 PM on 12/14/2011
Interesting - I have instructed my son to tell the kid that he's bullying him, this to label the behavior for the kid. Sometimes the kid just thinks they are being funny, or messing around and having my son label the behavior not being nice has made another kids realize they are hurting instead of being funny. He has told a kid that he was being mean and labeled it as bullying - which is not tolerated in the school - that one word has more power than the others combined, especially if the kid knows he will get in trouble. Mainly, I just want my kid to throw the other kid off with his response instead of cowering and playing the victim.

I understand why the child shouldn't be labeled - it's like the word stupid or BAD. Once labeled, a child internalizes that as their being instead of being able to identify that was not a smart choice. We try and focus on choices here and label the behavior - which still needs to be clarified that it's the choice not the child that was bad. Great Post - this subject is hot and your insight is not one that has been approached often enough. They don't have to fit the mold - let's break them out!

P.S. I have a MIL that bullies in her own way - maybe I should start labeling that for her too! HA
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Dr. G
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05:29 PM on 12/14/2011
I wonder (not that you should pay them to do this or anything) what would happen if your child labeled Grandma's behavior as bullying!
02:44 PM on 12/14/2011
Hmm, I like the idea of labeling the behavior and not the child. Unfortunately, as a teacher, I did see kids who consistently exhibited bullying behavior, year after year. When kids exhibit that behavior and have consequences, many of them change their behavior. But some kids had parents who would not acknowledge or actively encouraged that behavior. Those kids, unfortunately, I considered bullies in my head, not because they were "bad" kids, but because they didn't have incentive to change their behavior.
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Dr. G
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05:31 PM on 12/14/2011
It is true that kids can grow up to be full-time bullies. But I do believe that talking to a parent about a child's bullying behavior is more likely (though not guaranteed) to spur their involvement; telling a parent that their child is a bully likely just spurs their anger and withdrawal.
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02:01 PM on 12/14/2011
Did you go to school and interact with other living, breathing children? There were absolutely specific children were horrible, abusive marauders and bullied their peers every chance they got. All the counseling in the world wouldn’t fix their behavior, because it was too much a part of who they were.
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02:19 PM on 12/14/2011
I have met adults who fit that description for sure. I do believe that most every child can be reached, and that their behavior can be improved. When we cast a child as the villain, he or she almost always will try to live up to the label. When we hold them accountable for horrible behavior (and we must!) then they can do better.
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01:05 PM on 12/14/2011
As a teacher of 12 years, I am in full agreement with this piece.

Labels do long term damage. I spend more time helping young people peel those labels off than teaching my subject - or at least it feels that way sometimes.

Thanks for the breath of fresh air.
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02:20 PM on 12/14/2011
Thank you, very much!
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rockysparks
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11:10 AM on 12/14/2011
Sure, nice kids can be bullies. But that still doesn't mean it should be tolerated, Doc.

I have seven kids --- six boys and a girl. All adults now. But guess which one was the bully.

My daughter was the survivor of a childhood sexual assault --- while in her mother's custody, her mother's boyfriend raped her. It took me a year to get custody of my daughter, but I did, despite being a single dad with a house full of boys.

My sons were tall, easy-going kids. My daughter was an angry little pit bull --- full of rage about what had happened to her. I shared her anger, but I had a house full of kids to supervise and that was my main priority.

Her rage was misdirected at me and her brothers. She acted out --- a lot of back talk. Punching and kicking her brothers. They wanted to hit back. I said, "No. We don't hit women. You have to outsmart her. Figure it out."

The next day, her underwear started disappearing. After 10 days, she complained.

I called a family council meeting.

"Boys, are you stealing your sister's underwear?"

"Yup, Daddy."

"WHY, for God's sake?"

"She keeps hitting us. You told us not to hit her back."

I thought about it. Then I asked, "Will you stop stealing her dadburn underwear if she stops hitting you?"

"Yup."

"Daughter, the decision's yours."

And that's how my daughter stopped hitting her brothers.
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Dr. G
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02:22 PM on 12/14/2011
Rocky, that was brilliant! Really excellent parenting. Creating more resilient kids by encouraging creative problem solving and teaching them about natural consequences.

Also, please don't misunderstand me. Kids bully. For sure, and often and it can be awful! Children should be held accountable for their behavior, even if they have been through something awful themselves. I just want to change the focus of the conversation to bullying behavior, and away from casting kids into the role of "bully" since they may not find their way out.
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rockysparks
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04:05 PM on 12/14/2011
Well, Doc. I believe that parents should be willing to admit when their child has a problem with bullying. And as you understand, I let the kids work it out. We handled it "in-house," so to speak.

But the fact is, there ARE parents who let their kids get away with bullying other kids or are in denial that their little snookums could POSSIBLY be a bully. These are the ones who are threats to others. If the bully child is a threat to other kids, then the only solution is for the adults in charge of the safety of all the kids is to take that child out of the equation. One warning, and then that child doesn't get to participate anymore. Period. I am an advocate of zero tolerance of bullies in society. I'm not concerned about "labels". My concern is protecting the children from bullies.

And I apply that rule in the adult world, as well. If an employee is bullying other workers, then that employee gets one warning and then termination. And if a bully is doing it in society, he gets one warning and then he's prosecuted.

Yeah, it's fine to come up with "creative" solutions, whenever possible. But frankly, most teachers, employers and law enforcement officials don't have the time to try to "understand" bullies. That's the job of the responsible families. I did it with my daughter/ I expect other parents and family members to be able to curb their bullies, too.