The Clintonian Uncertainty Principle

Posted March 18, 2008 | 09:44 AM (EST)



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As Florida and Michigan edge closer to delegate reselection compromises, the Clinton campaign should see nothing but bad news ahead. With a pledged delegate deficit that even her campaign views as insurmountable, and a superdelegate lead that appears to be narrowing by the day, the primary rationale for Clinton's continued candidacy is uncertainty.

It is uncertainty that has prevented Clinton from being forced from the race by her party. It is uncertainty that fuels the mainstream media's coverage -- the only justification for describing a race that Obama cannot lose as a virtual tie. Why, the Clinton campaign argues, should Hillary concede defeat in a race filled with so much uncertainty?

But as the race moves into its final stages, and as the Michigan and Florida sideshow is resolved, the race moves ever closer to that one thing the Clinton campaign cannot afford to accept: certainty.

It appears likely that Michigan will hold a state run primary, funded by private donors. In January, Hillary faired quite well in the primary, garnering 55% of the vote. This, of course, was at a time when Clinton had blunted Obama's Iowa momentum with a victory in New Hampshire, a time when many wondered if Obama could possibly survive. It was also, as is well-known by now, a primary that excluded Obama's name from the ballot, the result of a pledge taken by both candidates, but honored only by Obama.

Without another major candidate on the ballot, Clinton still won a smaller percentage in Michigan than Obama won in Alabama, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, Virginia, Maryland, Wyoming, Mississippi, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Louisiana, among others. She ran unopposed; unopposed nearly won. Michigan is especially advantageous to Obama demographically. A win for him in the state's second effort is likely. A delegate rich victory for her is all but impossible.

Florida offers little more promise for the Clinton campaign. The vote-by-mail plan, originally floated by the state party, may not have been dead on arrival, but it was clearly mortally wounded. Neither campaign was comfortable with the option, and the entire Florida Congressional delegation expressed its opposition. For logistical reasons, neither a new primary or caucus was feasible. As of yesterday, the Florida Democratic party announced that there will not be a revote.

Senator Nelson's recent suggestion, to seat the January delegates, but with half a vote each, seems as though it will be the only viable option. In that scenario, Clinton will net only 19 delegates. To put that in perspective, Obama netted 10 additional delegates at the Iowa county conventions last weekend, an event that passed largely under the radar. Even if Clinton enjoys the support of 75% of the Michigan and Florida superdelegates, she will only gain an additional 14 delegates.

Each available option provides Clinton with too few gains and even fewer alternative paths to the nomination. Even in the popular vote count, the addition of Michigan and Florida will be insufficient for Clinton to overtake Obama.

The Clinton campaign is running out of options and running out of time. If a compromise is not reached before the convention, the fate of Florida and Michigan's delegations will be in the hands of the Credentials Committee, a committee guaranteed to be controlled by the Obama campaign. In such a situation, each delegation would be undoubtedly seated, but with a 50/50 split, netting zero delegates for Clinton. Hillary Clinton cannot afford to allow the Florida/Michigan controversy to continue to the convention, but she also cannot afford to have the chaos resolved now.

Certainty has become her greatest enemy.

A compromise is on the horizon. At this point, that appears all but inevitable. But short of a miracle, or at least a major unforeseeable event, the locomotive that is Hillary Clinton's campaign is coming perilously close to running out of tracks.


 
 

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- JonDev See Profile I'm a Fan of JonDev

The Monster has lost but cannot see. Colbert saiys she's like the fiend who loses her head but keeps crawling towards you. If she were not a woman (say a John Edwards) she would be forced out by the leadership long ago. By the way she looks terrible, tired and fat. Bush looks like he's back on the sauce. When either of these tow are on the tube I either turn off the sound or change the channel. McCain is like Elmer Fudd and I can relate to his memory loss but not his politics. Go Ari Spears......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 03/19/2008
- DasBoot See Profile I'm a Fan of DasBoot

Exactly. The certainty of defeat if things go the regular way explains why the Clinton campaign has gone nasty the last few weeks. They realize that the only way to win for them is to take Obama down, to attack him until he is damaged goods and hope for a major skeleton in his closet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 03/19/2008
- skwan91607 See Profile I'm a Fan of skwan91607

You are totally wrong by your conclusion that said Clinton could not accept that or those. Since you are not Clinton herself nor representing Clinton. The only thing your want to do is belittling Clinton's character. That is also failing to do because a lot of people know who Clinton was before and is now. Your poison bill has no effect. Period. However, you and other Obama's supporters do not get mad while Obama fails to get the nomination. Do not join the terror group to get revenge Americans will be better off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 AM on 03/19/2008
- Valkyrie See Profile I'm a Fan of Valkyrie

Huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 03/19/2008
- WakeUpBill See Profile I'm a Fan of WakeUpBill

How soon until after Hillary wins will the list of who Bill has been "Spitzering" the last 8 years come out in the press?

Reference Ford's assessment of Bill as a "sex addict".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 03/19/2008
- goodsnservices See Profile I'm a Fan of goodsnservices

Facts, call me a wonk, but I love facts.

Fact 1. Hillary Clinton has 1242 pledged delegates, plus approximately 237 superdelegate endorsements, for a grand total of 1479 votes so far for the convention this summer.

Fact 2. Obama has 1413 pledged delegates, plus approximately 208 superdelegate endorsements, for a grand total of 1621 votes so far for the convention this summer.

Fact 3. One of the candidates needs to garner *at least* 2024 votes to take the nomination uncontested.

Fact 4. There are only 552 pledges to be assigned from the remaining states.

Fact 5. Obama needs 403 out of the 552 remaining pledges pledges to get the nomination straight up. That's 73% of the votes in all of the remaining contests.

Fact 6. Hillary needs 545 out of the 552 remaining pledges to get the nomination straight up. That's 99% of the votes in al lthe remaining contests.

Fact 7. There are 794 (out of a total of 4047) superdelegates, of which 445 are already in play. That leaves only 349 superdelegates sitting on the fence.

Fact 8. All the remaining unassigned pledged delegates and all the remaining unaligned superdelegates taken together are 901, enough taken together to give either candidate the nomination.

Since 100% win and endorsement for either candidate is a ludicrous proposition, let's examine what percentage each of the candidates would require:

Hillary: total delegates (pledged and super) 1479. She needs 545 more delegates for the win, or 60 percent of the remaining.

Obama: total delgates (pledged and super) 1621. He needs 403 more delegates for the win, or 45% of those remaining.

Finally, let's look at the relative wins of the candidates. CNN has a scorecard that tracks all the primaries and caucuses at http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D. There are menu choices and tabs that will take you to each of the state contests, where you can examine the percentage of the vote that went to each candidate. Here's the interesting fact summarized from all that data:

The calculation of all votes percentages taken across all contests for all the states so far yields an average of approximately 55% vote for Obama, and approximately 40% for Hillary. (The remaining 5% went to the other candidates while they were still in the race.)

Clearly, the 45% of remaining delegates that would put Obama over the top fall well within the AVERAGE performance he has shown so far. On the other hand, Hillary's anemic 40% of the vote does not give any indication that the 60% of the remaining pledges that she needs will simply swing her way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 03/18/2008
- BenMurphyNYC See Profile I'm a Fan of BenMurphyNYC

I like your post except the last paragraph, which is a little deceptive. Obama had some blow out victories - but the blow outs were in states that don't matter for Democrats electorally (UT, ID, AK, KS) or where Hillary could not be competitive because of the state's demographic make up (DC,SC,GA,MS,AL). It would probably be better to use the popular voter number which is Obama +2.6%

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 03/19/2008
- MrWinky See Profile I'm a Fan of MrWinky

Very well done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 03/19/2008
- 2belinda See Profile I'm a Fan of 2belinda

Thank you for the breakdown .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 03/18/2008
- XYZ See Profile I'm a Fan of XYZ

No I think they improve it. Look at today, more of this and not even god will be able to deny Obama the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 03/19/2008
- goodsnservices See Profile I'm a Fan of goodsnservices

My pleasure. Someone had to give the information that all the wonks are using to predict that Hillary has a nearly impossible task if she wants to win the nomination. Too many people have painted this assessment as merely propaganda.

There's a solid basis for the complaint that Hillary's continuing the contest is hurting Obama's chances in the general election, while adding nothing to her chances to win. If she succeeds in convincing enough people that he can't win the nomination, she'll still lose, but the stigma to Obama just might carry over into the general election.

I just wish the superdelegates would get off the fence and put this farce to an end!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 03/19/2008
- goodsnservices See Profile I'm a Fan of goodsnservices

Facts, call me a wonk, but I love facts.

Fact 1. Hillary Clinton has 1242 pledged delegates, plus approximately 237 superdelegate endorsements, for a grand total of 1479 votes so far for the convention this summer.

Fact 2. Obama has 1413 pledged delegates, plus approximately 208 superdelegate endorsements, for a grand total of 1621 votes so far for the convention this summer.

Fact 3. One of the candidates needs to garner *at least* 2024 votes to take the nomination uncontested.

Fact 4. There are only 552 pledges to be assigned from the remaining states.

Fact 5. Obama needs 403 out of the 552 remaining pledges pledges to get the nomination straight up. That's 73% of the votes in all of the remaining contests.

Fact 6. Hillary needs 545 out of the 552 remaining pledges to get the nomination straight up. That's 99% of the votes in al lthe remaining contests.

Fact 7. There are 794 (out of a total of 4047) superdelegates, of which 445 are already in play. That leaves only 349 superdelegates sitting on the fence.

Fact 8. All the remaining unassigned pledged delegates and all the remaining unaligned superdelegates taken together are 901, enough taken together to give either candidate the nomination.

Since 100% win and endorsement for either candidate is a ludicrous proposition, let's examine what percentage each of the candidates would require:

Hillary: total delegates (pledged and super) 1479. She needs 545 more delegates for the win, or 60 percent of the remaining.

Obama: total delgates (pledged and super) 1621. He needs 403 more delegates for the win, or 45% of those remaining.

Finally, let's look at the relative wins of the candidates. CNN has a scorecard that tracks all the primaries and caucuses at http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D. There are menu choices and tabs that will take you to each of the state contests, where you can examine the percentage of the vote that went to each candidate. Here's the interesting fact summarized from all that data:

The calculation of all votes percentages taken across all contests for all the states so far yields an average of approximately 55% vote for Obama, and approximately 40% for Hillary. (The remaining 5% went to the other candidates while they were still in the race.)

Clearly, the 45% of remaining delegates that would put Obama over the top fall well within the AVERAGE performance he has shown so far. On the other hand, Hillary's anemic 40% of the vote does not give any indication that the 60% of the remaining pledges that she needs will simply swing her way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 03/18/2008
- willowbarcelona See Profile I'm a Fan of willowbarcelona

2 words: Clinton Fatigue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 03/18/2008
- rwferr See Profile I'm a Fan of rwferr

She has a clear path to the nomination and I am sure you know that but like all the other obamanuts want to pretend it isnt there. The superdelegates have to decide to lose with Obama or win with Clinton its as easy as that choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 03/18/2008
- S1m0n See Profile I'm a Fan of S1m0n

If superdelegates are going to save Hillary's bacon, they'd better start soon: she's a stellar -7 since superTuesday, while Obama is +48.

The Hail Mary fantasy currently playing in H-block is just that: fantasy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 03/19/2008
- JavaCityGal See Profile I'm a Fan of JavaCityGal

A clear path to nomination -- how's that? Get the superdelegates to overturn the will of the people?

Get real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 03/18/2008
- FreedomLoverX See Profile I'm a Fan of FreedomLoverX

Clear path? LOL. What is it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 03/18/2008
- billis3811 See Profile I'm a Fan of billis3811

Should Obama get the Nom, will you support him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 03/18/2008
- LeftyLadig See Profile I'm a Fan of LeftyLadig

Someone need to sit her down and explain that it is over. She is done. Barack Obama will be the next president of the United States of America. She can save her "legacy" by getting out of this race and helping the party win in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 03/18/2008
- Triangle1 See Profile I'm a Fan of Triangle1

If Obama could get the job done more convincingly, or if he had substantially more voters, there wouldn't be doubt floating around. Just today I read a CNN.com report that Hillary would be ahead of Obama against McCain. (Within the margin of error, blah blah) How this all means Hillary should hand over her half of the votes and leave the race is beyond me. Obama is outspending Hillary 2 to 1 and he still can't gain full "certainty." Obamaniacs should remember that the reason he isn't clearly winning is because about half the voters have voted AGAINST him. If Obama was leading in Florida, you'd all be "pumped" to get those delegates counted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 03/18/2008
- MrWinky See Profile I'm a Fan of MrWinky

Mostly b/c they are not her votes. Her owns words were that the election did not count for anything, then she started losing, and then the outcome of the votes were in her favor. Clinton is completely going against everything she said before about MI and FL, she has zero integrity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 03/19/2008
- KQuark See Profile I'm a Fan of KQuark

This is like the first or second time Clinton was ahead of Obama in that poll while Obama had his worse week. I know Hillary would like on candidate elections for her coronation but this is America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 03/19/2008
- XYZ See Profile I'm a Fan of XYZ

CNN = Clinton News Network. Get real I don't think CNN even knows what the true delegate count is I keep on hearing them say a slim lead for Obama, there delegate numbers are so old they have mold. Sorry obama won like 10 delegates over the weekend and there was no race. Plus I have not seen a single delegate goto the clintons is six weeks. Sorry I'm calling her bluff she only has a pair to Obama's royal flush.

There are few possibilities for Hillary to pull this off now, sorry but reality must set in. Even in the Clintonian distortion field there has to be some semblance of reality. What the supers are going to strong arm the voters?? Get real, if Clinton is going to pull supers out her arsse I want to see them now.

If the supers back the Clintons they will not have a party to even reach the election with. I'm surprised these super delegates don't have any survival instincts.

Money = Obama
Delegates = Obama
Popular Vote = Obama
Downtickets = Obama

Any questions super-delegates????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 03/19/2008
- goodsnservices See Profile I'm a Fan of goodsnservices

I don't understand what it is about the facts that are eluding you. Obama has won more than twice as many states as Hillary. He has 150 more pledged delegates. He's gathered nearly 50 superdelegates in the past month, while Hillary has lost superdelegates. He has more than a million more popular votes than Hillary. The best she can hope for from a Michigan revote is an even split of delegates from that state, a situation that will not help her close the delegate gap. With no revote possible in Florida, again, the best Hillary can hope for is if the committee decides to seat the Florida delegates 50/50, again, no help to Hillary. There are only 10 states left, and although PA is favoring Hillary, she doesn't have enough of a lead to take a significant portion of even those delegates. Of the nine states after PA, most of them favor Obama. Huff and Puff all you like, there is no way Hillary will be able to take the nomination from Obama at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 03/18/2008
- FreedomLoverX See Profile I'm a Fan of FreedomLoverX

CNN report? Your trusted network? Apparently you have missed ALL the pther poles that say the opposite is true. But, I understand, since you live in a CNN world, why you might be distorted about this. I hope you had their findings verified by Fox.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 03/18/2008
- SamThornton See Profile I'm a Fan of SamThornton

Watched a rerun of "Primary Colors" last night, the fictionalized account of the 1992 Clinton campaign. One line that stood out from the Bill Clinton character was, in rejecting a suggestion to trash his opponent, "Any damn fool can burn down a barn." Of course, he later relented but it's still a cogent observation.

Sen. Clinton appears well-positioned to burn the barn down. A little more race-baiting, a little more fear-mongering, a few more spin-doctored half-truths could at least light the match. If the match does get lit, I'm betting it'll be used to ignite a flame-thrower, just to make sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 03/18/2008
- Montanamotor See Profile I'm a Fan of Montanamotor

I honour your fears, but: After Obama's today's speech, EVERY attempt of Hillary to act as you indicate, will turn out as a shot in her own foot. Obama's speach was no sermon, but a limelight: It brought to light with relentless clearlaness and, sharpness all the tricks and fouls, others like so much to play in the twilight of innuendo, the darkness of prejudice. From now on, Obama's speech will stand out like a beacon in the night - to deny the sinister characters opposing him their foul play in the twilight and, in the dark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 03/18/2008
- XYZ See Profile I'm a Fan of XYZ

I wouldn't go that far the republicans are spitting on it and laughing. However the joke will be on them when they realize that not that many people want to take part in that type of politics any more. 2 of my republican friends have defected today on Obama's speech today ROFLAMO. I'm gonna close the deal with some Audacity of Hope, and Dreams of my Father.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 03/19/2008
- Poboy See Profile I'm a Fan of Poboy

Here is a hard, cold truth:

IT IS TIME FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO PUSH CLINTON OUT OF THE RACE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 03/18/2008
- salamanda See Profile I'm a Fan of salamanda

"It was also, as is well-known by now, a primary that excluded Obama's name from the ballot, the result of a pledge taken by both candidates, but honored only by Obama."

Pardon? On the contrary, it is well-known that Obama CHOSE to remove his name from the ballot and persuaded Edwards to do the same in an effort to genuflect to Iowa and New Hamphsire and make Clinton look bad. You are also incorrect about the pledge - the pledge the candidates signed was to not campaign in Michigan or Florida, which Clinton honored. Obama ran TV ads in Florida citing as the excuse that it was a national commercial and they couldn't tell them one state not to run it.

Look, as a Clinton supporter I don't disagree with your larger premise which is that uncertainty is becoming certainty, and not in her favor. But a part of the reason for that (not ALL but part) is bloggers and reporting like yours and the narrative that has been created that she has played dirty and he has not. All of the twisting of the Florida and Michigan debacle is ridiculous - it was those states that "broke the rules", according to the DNC, not the people of those states. The people don't care about the crazy infighting or reasons why our primary calendar needs to genuflect to Iowa. In spite of that, Clinton signed the pledge and stuck to it. Don't try to make the reality of her probable loss of the nomination about anything more than it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 03/18/2008
- TekTami78 See Profile I'm a Fan of TekTami78

Seems to me that this was Shrillary's plan from the beginning. She kept her name on the Michigan ballot and held 'events' in Florida as a 'just in case' fallback plan. Just in case she wasn't the clear victor after Feb. 5th, just in case this upstart Obama didn't realize that she was owed this nomination and just in case she couldn't find anything else to throw at Obama in desperation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 03/19/2008
- MrWinky See Profile I'm a Fan of MrWinky

I don't think she played dirty in MI or FL, the dirt came after when she contradicted all her prior statements and said that they now counted. Not only that, she claims both were fair and should be seated "as is." That is just so dishonest, I really don't know where to begin. Up to that point, however, you are right she was not at fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 03/19/2008
- XYZ See Profile I'm a Fan of XYZ