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Elayne Boosler

Elayne Boosler

Posted: January 13, 2011 03:27 PM

Sometimes, if you really don't know how you feel about a topic, reading how both sides argue it can help. There is a deluge of heated rhetoric regarding the Arizona shooting tragedy. Emotions are high. Yet seeing how people make their cases can give one valuable insight as to who stands where. It can help you decide where you want to stand, what kind of person you want to be.

My belief is that guns are too easy to get in America. My belief is that the NRA has bought much of our congress, to the point that guns are actually the only unregulated consumer product in America. Think about that. It's stunning. Rather than "exploiting a terrible situation", I say these things again now because when else are people on either side really listening? It's like those year-round Christmas stores, they don't do much business in July.

I also say these things not as a pundit, a liberal, a democrat, a "lefty", a comic, or anything but a citizen; a registered Independent who voted for Nader, and who tries to stay informed. We all have the right to post opinions. There, those were mine.

Because I have said this, I have been attacked on radio, twitter, and conservative blogs around the country. It would trouble me if the counter-arguments were presented as I have presented mine. Instead, it is meaningless to me. No one who walks upright could take any of it seriously. I can't believe anyone could even type these things while holding a banana. Or a gun. Or a "banana". They have learned the NRA playbook and are now applying it to individuals. The NRA annihilates every candidate running for office who mentions any kind of gun legislation; from getting automatic, or armor piercing, or airplane reaching, weapons off the street, to keeping guns away from schools, or promoting background checks at gun shows. Now their members are trying to do the same thing to people. "Consider the source" has never rung truer.

The following are verbatim. They are the sum total of my gun topic tweets:

"Don't Retreat, Reload." National Surveyor's Motto.

Doesn't matter "why". The "why" is always the same. It matters that it's so easy 2 buy weapons of mass destruction, even if ur insane.

Yes, you can kill with a knife. But I've never seen a 1 handled knife with 30 blades.

Yes, cars "kill people" 2. But if car mfgrs had the freedom from oversight the gun industry bought itself, cars would kill 10 mil a year.

Automatic weapons 2 hunt rabbit? Is there some kind of key chain/stew Olympics we're not aware of?

Outlawing automatic weapons might infringe on some hunting weapons? If u need 100 rounds 2 kill a deer, maybe hunting isn't ur sport.

NRA isn't abt "rights", it's abt money. At least drug dealers have the decency 2 not claim its the "pursuit of happiness."

The right 2 b an arms bearer guarantees the right 2 b a pallbearer.

The "right 2 bear arms" guarantees the right 2 unbearable sadness.

I wrote this hoping 4 change. We got it. Worse now.

Maybe Sarah Palin has finally shot herself in the foot?

"This is not what we meant!" ~ Thomas Jefferson.

"Stop letting corrupt mental midgets twist our words!" ~ John Adams.

We've lost r view of the Greater Good. Everything was written with the caveat of the Greater Good. Now it's narcissism.

Of course it's the victims' fault. If only they had been carrying automatic weapons 2, this wouldn't have happened.

The only industry the NRA benefits is itself, lobbyists, the teddy bear and flower industry. Enough!

Those were my tweets. Now, whether you think I'm funny or not, whether or not you've kept up with my career and philanthropy, none of that should have any bearing on the argument about guns in America, right? Here's just a sampling of tweets to me:

i hope you're beaten to death by wilding teens as they tell jokes funnier than yours, & CCW citizen chooses to not intervene

You're an idiot !! Go NRA they defeated #Al Gore Shut up cunt.

Bake a pie, broad

No ones heard of you for twenty years. Go away moron.

You look like the kind of lady that has a really smelly vagina. Most liberal, beasts in a pant suit do.

I will never forgive Andy Kaufman for encouraging you to become a comedian. It was the cruelest prank he ever played.

(Actually, that one made me laugh - EB)

if you keep retweeting @elayneboosler's tweets, she will mistakenly think she's relevant

Are you a good shot, cunt? I like to say, "I'll keep my guns, you keep the change!"

just another liberal asswipe using tragedy to push a political agenda. Disappear jackass...

this irrelevant cunt doesn't know what she's talking about

You unfunny piece of shit

Ok, how bout we take your 1st amendment away you slob

@ElayneBoosler would be a pretty easy trigger pull for me

if you look like you do. all leathery and caked on make up. why would you make your icon that big and close up? ccccunt.

That cooz @ElayneBoosler is beyond unfunny. She is the Anti-Funny. She is the fucking reason clowns cry.

shut up you fat slob, the 2nd amendment is about RIGHTS not $,How about we take away your 1st amendment to spew your garbage?

are you that fucking white? Think like a criminal bitch and you will know you are in danger always.

This lady @ElayneBoosler sounds like a cunt

god damn it, this @elayneboosler is pissing me the fuck off. I absolutely hate people like this. Choke on your tongue dickhead

haha slob.

Guns or no guns, it's "pussies".

it's so easy to be an unfunny empty-headed twit and pitch Fantastick spray cleaner. Go scrub a countertop, dummy.

My tweeps, I have read the counter-arguments above with great concentration and an open mind, and I am ashamed to admit, they just haven't changed my mind about the prevalence of too many guns, and too little oversight, in America. I know, I should be more flexible. I appreciate all you guys who took the time to tweet, and I know you tried your best to make a good case. Maybe it's me. Maybe I just can't get my silly little head around such lofty arguments. I do recommend you call in to as many talk shows as possible and repeat your arguments, so others can at least see where you are coming from, and really understand who is freely walking around with guns in our country.

 

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11:59 AM on 01/21/2011
It's my right to get gunned down at my local grocery store by a lunatic with a thirty shot clip. Thank you Arizona.
03:06 PM on 01/18/2011
Elayne,
California has a set of safety standards for handguns. They must pass a drop test and then pay a fee to be put on a roster of 'safe' handguns for one year. Fee renewal is up every year. If you want to sell a gun of a different color, barrel length, or any cosmetic feature that gun requires a $50,000 fee and three test guns. Gov't agencies can buy guns that aren't on the list. A gun unsafe for me is 'safe' for the IRS Agent or the Beat Cop down town. Can you defend that?
It gets better. Single Action revolvers(Western fim sixguns) are exempt from the testing process because they cannot pass and are dangerous. So dangerous people that own these six-guns carry them with the hammer resting on an empty chamber.
So, your consumer protection fantasy makes it much more expensive to sell guns in my state, exempts gov't employees and allows the only guns certain to fail this testing to be exempt.
Even though it is a total sham, shakedown of firearms manufacturers(not to mention the public) it does NOTHING at all to promote or encourage safety. It actually does exactly what it was intended to do. Disarm the masses.
Anybody think the police will protect you?
Google 'Castle Rock Vs. Gonzales' A Supreme Court Ruling that I'm certain Boosler will try to spin somehow.
I challenge you Elayne be brave and funny and tell Mrs. Gonzales your opinions on protecting yourself.
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Olaugh
If you are sure, you've stopped listening.
03:38 PM on 01/20/2011
So what you are saying is that Ms Gonzales should have been armed and shot her husband dead when he showed up at the wrong time?  Or are you saying that she should have threatened her husband with the gun and then been shot dead by him in a gun battle that would have sprayed bullets around the neighborhood.  Your point is pointless.  A gun would not have helped in this situation.  People would still have died.  Though I will give you props for throwing in a court case that seems to support your point (though it actually has nothing to do with the point).  Your use of pathos in your final challenge is marvelous but alas beside the point.  Had Ms Gonzales had a gun she would have either ended up killing someone or joining her children in death.  Even if in this case killing her husband (in cold blood) had saved the lives of her daughters, can you imagine the precedent this would set?  Disgruntled exes all across the country, gunning down their former spouses and claiming that they had no choice.
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04:41 AM on 01/18/2011
well they most definitely recognized yuo don't possess a Y chromosone. Identity is a finely honed craft toward NRA maneuvering and pitching the vital 'merits" of their dogma. Comtemplate when you are reading both sidese: Had the identities been reversed in the Tuson tragedy. Daniel Hernandez ( the hero that saved Gaby Giffords life) been the crazed shooter assassinating a white Republican representaive; The NRA would have been furiously driving the white, right to arm themselves with every type of firearm they hold sacred and imperative...NOW!! The Tea Party would be arriving in Tuscon in masses we have yet to see.

The NRA would take the postion of the nation's ONLY viable protectorate.

Their would be no dialogueing... The dye of the optics would be cast, with indentity the driving force for gun amassing that would make the NRA swoon.
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CanisLatrans
Progressive/2nd Amendment Jewish Iraq war vet.
06:49 PM on 01/17/2011
For the love of God, you went searching for wisdom on Twitter!?

That was your first mistake.
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Elayne Boosler
Writer, comedian, founder Tails of Joy.
09:55 PM on 01/19/2011
Of course I didn't. I was sad to see the Huff Post moderators add that sentence as the preview line of my already completed piece when they put it up. It's a terrible setup for the piece, but too late for me to do anything about it. Sigh.
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blueken
Finger Picking blues man
03:53 PM on 01/17/2011
In most households the biggest score for a burglar is a hand gun. Enough said?
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
02:01 PM on 01/17/2011
I think even the "Brady Campaign To Enforce Existing Gun Laws" realizes that the movement is away from gun control and towards citizen carry.
03:15 PM on 01/17/2011
"Citizen carry" is precisely what enabled Loughner to commit his atrocity. Your "movement" may need to check its compass.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
04:11 PM on 01/17/2011
Hi Guffie!  You mean that Jared Loughner would have reasoned, had he been capable of reasoning, "Gee, maybe I better not go and commit mass murder because I could get arrested for carrying a handgun without a license and then I'd really be in a heap 'o trouble?"
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
07:03 PM on 01/17/2011
Do you really think that had concealed carry been completely banned in AZ that it would have slowed Jared down even a nanosecond?
07:24 PM on 01/17/2011
Didn't do the people in Tucson much good, did it? The ones who disarmed Loughner were unarmed themselves. The one citizen with a gun, by his own admission, very nearly shot one of the heroes who'd subdued Loughner.

So why do we need all these people with guns, again?
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
01:05 AM on 01/18/2011
The one guy who was carrying was inside another store at the time and had to run out of that store and down to where the shooting was taking place. He was not in the crowd when the shooting started. By the time he got to the scene, the gunman was already down. And claims that he nearly shot another responder are quite exaggerated. He never drew on anyone.
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Wendy Johnson
09:15 AM on 01/17/2011
"Overall, gun control groups spent just $180,000 during the first nine months of 2010 and employed nine lobbyists, according to research by the Center for Responsive Politics. Their ideological opponents, meanwhile, hired 49 lobbyists and invested $3.9 million during the same period."

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/01/after-arizona-shooting-gun-control.html
10:24 AM on 01/17/2011
Additionally, the NRA's campaign spending spiked 40% in the election cycle immediately following Virginia Tech. We can expect similar in 2012, owing to the latest massacre.
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Wendy Johnson
10:35 AM on 01/17/2011
If you spend enough money, you can convince a certain sector of the population to believe anything. I am reminded of Joe Camel, convincing kids to try smoking.
08:06 AM on 01/17/2011
Wow. My best hope is that most of these comments were sent from a very secure institution.
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Americulchie
10:49 PM on 01/16/2011
"I don't think psychopaths having access to guns is what makes
this country great. But, Elayne Boosler is what makes this
country great." I have to ask what was wrong with this post?
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Livin in Spin
Corporate Fat Cat is keepin teh bonus
10:15 PM on 01/16/2011
Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? -Ernest Gaines
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
12:33 AM on 01/17/2011
I have no problem with either.
08:45 PM on 01/16/2011
"A registered independent who voted for Nader"----------------------------really "independent" there sugar. I mean, real tough to figure what end of the spectrum you're on. I'm sure it was real tough, Reagan?-----------------or Mondale? Nader-------------------or Bush/Gore? Tough call between the three in 2001.
08:34 PM on 01/16/2011
I strongly disagree with this, and I'm about as socially liberal as they come.
Guns exist - and people like this shooter are not going to be greatly deterred by making it harder for legitimate owners to buy them. The push to ban the high capacity ammo is, as far as I'm concerned, an excuse for the legislators to pretend they actually did anything relevant.
I couldn't care less about the NRA, nor do I have any interest in owning a gun, but I absolutely support others' right to own one. The idea that somehow criminals won't be able to get guns when you make it harder for legitimate buyers simply doesn't hold up, and as such it's better for potential victims to be able to defend themselves.
Again, I say this as someone who is extremely socially liberal in every other sense.
Dayne
People are people
08:47 PM on 01/16/2011
Very good post sir. You eloquently stated your opinions with rational thoughts and without calling someone a school ground name. This may sound strange, but as a gun owner and 2nd amendment proponent, you are the type of person I would be proud to protect with my gun if the need arose. Its people like you who help remind others that violence isn't always the answer. Sometimes it takes more courage to stand up to someone armed only with your courage and conviction than it does with a gun. A good day to you.

Sincerely,
Dayne
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aceempress
10:23 PM on 01/16/2011
Actually, MOST time it takes more courage to stand up to an armed person.
08:56 PM on 01/16/2011
You sound more like a Tea Partier than you think (which is good in my book). Think it's about time to leave the "children of the left"? Most all the TPers I've met fall into that catagory------socially liberal, (in a "live & let live" sense) gun owners, just one more element to go-----fiscally conservative. Ready to join?
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TremoluxMan
Politics: BS on Steroids.
08:30 PM on 01/16/2011
The best arguments for strict gun control are made by those opposed to it.
08:57 PM on 01/16/2011
Meaning?
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HisXLNC
No.
08:15 PM on 01/16/2011
" My belief is that the NRA has bought much of our congress, to the point that guns are actually the only unregulated consumer product in America."

Quite the contrary. Guns are the only consumer product that are so highly regulated that if you make one too small, too quiet, or one that doesn't work properly, you can be put in a federal prison for 10 years, pay a $100k, and lose your right to ever buy a gun ever again.
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thismachinekillsfascists
Why are humans so silly?
08:01 PM on 01/16/2011
All good reasons why crazy people do not deserve to own guns, legally or illegally. Obviously those people who tweeted their filth and vitriol have not progressed beyond a fifth-grade mentality.