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Elizabeth Bisbee Silber

Elizabeth Bisbee Silber

Posted: May 24, 2010 06:01 PM

Memo to Rand Paul: Free Enterprise Isn't Free

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I'm guessing Dr. Rand Paul is unmoved by the BP oil spill live feed posted by the House Energy Independence and Global Warming committee. I imagine he views photos of oil coated wildlife with similar equanimity. After all, as Dr. Paul stated last week, accidents happen, right? And, if you follow his logic, the real tragedy of the BP Oil Spill is not, in fact, the destruction of sea turtles or fragile aquatic habitats, or even the loss of revenue and jobs for the fishing and tourism industries. Rather, according the Senate hopeful from Kentucky, the disaster in the Gulf underscores the Obama Administration's persecution of poor, defenseless British Petroleum.

In an interview with Good Morning America, Dr. Paul called the president "un-American" and referred to governmental efforts to hold BP accountable for the ecological mess a "boot heel on the throat" of the oil giant. He goes on to offer that, "[m]aybe sometimes accidents happen," referring to both the Gulf oil spill and the recent coal mining disaster. If I'm inferring correctly, the candidate apparently believes the government should not seek to recover damages from BP, despite the fact that the company's failure to prevent this accident is projected to cost U.S. businesses and citizens billions.

Dr. Paul agreed to the Good Morning America interview in order to clear up earlier comments that seemed to question the constitutionality of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But the interview veered off into a range of issues that cut straight to the candidate's philosophy regarding the role of the federal government in regulating private industry.

In one particularly telling clip, the candidate indicated to Fox News that he had little use for either the EPA or OSHA, and complained they should get out of Kentucky's coal mining business. Yet, when pressed for a response to his own words, Dr. Paul visibly bristled, and stammered out some talking points that did more to muddy his position than to clarify it.

Conservatives, when discussing military matters (and guns, of course) like to pithily state that "freedom isn't free." I'd like to remind the senatorial candidate from Kentucky that neither is free enterprise. The natural resources of the both the oil deposits and the Kentucky coal mines are exploited by energy companies because the government provides the leases, and or healthy subsidies that help to finance such production. Dr. Paul seems to have no problem with government greasing the wheels for energy production, but then objects that placing safety and environmental restrictions on companies whose very function depends upon government investment is somehow unfair.

This is typical of the extreme, pro-business conservative. They lobby for tax breaks, subsidies, improvements in infrastructure, and manipulation of energy prices in order to keep their costs low. But I have yet to hear Rand Paul, or any other advocate of unfettered free markets, advocate that corporations build their own energy or telecommunications grid, pave their own roads, dig their own wells, inspect their own raw and finished materials, or provide their own police and fire protections. All of these, which are gifts from taxpayers via the federal government, bring bigger profits and increased productivity to corporations large and small. And the "small government" crowd accepts said gifts without so much as batting an eyelash.

However, ask these same corporations to clean up their own messes, to provide safe working conditions for their employees, to pay a living wage, to reasonably accommodate those who would patronize their businesses with an access ramp or an elevator, or to modify their business practices to preserve or protect some of our most treasured resources and habitats, and suddenly the small government crowd behaves like petulant, ungrateful children (see Wall Street Reform).

This is the problem with Rand Paul, and also with the larger Tea Party movement. They want all the benefits of large government, but with none of the costs or inconveniences associated with it. That's not conservatism. That's just magical thinking.

 
I'm guessing Dr. Rand Paul is unmoved by the BP oil spill live feed posted by the House Energy Independence and Global Warming committee. I imagine he views photos of oil coated wildlife with simil...
I'm guessing Dr. Rand Paul is unmoved by the BP oil spill live feed posted by the House Energy Independence and Global Warming committee. I imagine he views photos of oil coated wildlife with simil...
 
 
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
04:59 PM on 05/26/2010
You have a way with words.
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cintirich
Support the Constitution, not talking points.
12:02 PM on 05/26/2010
You're correct except in one area.

Many "real" conservatives do not want all the benefits of a large government.
12:42 PM on 05/26/2010
TRY TO BE MORE SPECIFIC CINTRICH. WHAT BENEFITS WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE UP?
THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM. GIVE US YOUR REFERENCES, YOUR THOUGHTS. WE'RE AWAITING YOUR SWIFT REPLY.
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cintirich
Support the Constitution, not talking points.
01:01 PM on 05/26/2010
Social Security, Health Care, artificially high taxes on easy to target groups like smokers, gov't "stimulus" sending billions to prop up the "greening" of houses of lower income people and getting vastly overcharged for inferior work in the process.

Is that a good start?

PS: Capslock is not "cruise control for cool".
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cintirich
Support the Constitution, not talking points.
01:04 PM on 05/26/2010
Oh, also bailouts of GM, AIG, Big banks, as well as Fannie and Freddie.

The homebuyer's tax credit and the Energy Star appliance tax credit.

The list is virtually endless.
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dmurr
01:14 PM on 05/26/2010
Would that include the military, the highway system, Social Security, Medicare, farm subsidies, and student loan assistance? I haven't seen any major movement by Conservatives - real or imagined - to do without these benefits.
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cintirich
Support the Constitution, not talking points.
01:44 PM on 05/26/2010
From your examples, it's clear you don't even understand the argument here.

Classic liberals, now known as libertarians, don't argue that the government has a role, albeit strictly defined and limited. Among it's major functions are national defense and fascilitating interstate trade, i.e. the federal highway system.

Federally subsidized student loans are one of the major reasons that the cost of higher education has literally skyrocketed.

Social Security? No. The vast majority of people don't need it.
Medicare - I'd be fine with this if there wasn't so much fraud and abuse from both providers and recipients.
Farm subsidies - No. The government should not be paying people NOT to grow something, nor should they prop up the price of favored goods at taxpayer expense. This is 2010 - if you can't make money farming without taxpayer help, it's not a profession - it's an expensive hobby.
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Steve Magruder
Administrator, Metro Issues :: Louisville
12:10 AM on 05/26/2010
Insightful and quite a breakthrough of an article. It really is the perfect response to conservatives who refuse to see the whole picture of how an economy works.
08:46 PM on 05/25/2010
I see your problem. 'THE GOVERNMENT' is not a separate thing. It's us. THE GOVERNMENT isn't hurt by BP, it's us. If BP gives the government $100 Billion for cleanup do you think it's really going to help those effected? Like all those rich Katrina victims? Low interest loans still have to be paid back (with interest).
Let those affected sue BP for damages. And make THEM clean it up. Obviously THE GOVERNMENT doesn't have a clue of what to do (except ask for money to do some unspecified thing).
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HowietheScreamer
Yes yes, I know my Micro bio is still empty
01:23 PM on 05/26/2010
Pssst.... We ARE the government. Remember that silly little phrase "of the people, by the people, for the people"???? Yea thought not.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
05:10 PM on 05/26/2010
Exactly. So when a teabagger says they hate the govt what they really mean is that they hate the American people. Same thing with Rupert Murdoch wanting to drown the govt in a bathtub, this is what he wants to do to the American people, too. And when Rush prays that Obama should fail, he is begging for the (at least temporary) failure of the people of this country as some sort of punishment for having elected Obama against Rush's wishes.
07:42 PM on 05/25/2010
A breaking enviro-friendly technology has just been discovered that has been proven to clean and recycle the spilled crude in the Gulf.

Something needs to be done SOON! It has been over a month now and BP has yet to find a solution to this problem! Someone needs to tell BP to google "how to clean and recycle oil spill" and they will have the solution to this problem.

According to the United States Fish and Wildlife Services, there are 108 species listed as threatened or endangered in the state of Florida alone, a state who has just declared a state of emergency for 26 counties due to the Oil Spill, and an additional 154 listed in the surrounding States. Our economy right now can not handle the strain this will put on the entire Gulf region, so we need to act fast as concerned citizens ourselves. Please help by sharing this comment and/or link with your local news and radio stations http://pitch.pe/65751. Thank you in advance for helping to do our part in cleaning the oil spill ourselves.

This needs to be solved NOW!
09:39 PM on 05/25/2010
Where is the Army Coprs of Engineers waiver for Louisian's?
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ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
02:04 PM on 05/25/2010
"That's not conservatism. That's just magical thinking."

Bush Sr called it "voodoo economics"; essentially that's "magical thinking".
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WilliamBradford
Veritas vos Liberabit
12:03 PM on 05/25/2010
I shudder a little bit thinking that this author is teaching our high school students.

Those evil "corporations" out there are the ones that provide most of the jobs, invent most of the products, provide the raw materials, and pay the taxes that make this country possible. When we, as a society, represented by our government, make an "investment" in order to help a corporation do more or do it better, it is because that investment will, most of the time, return direct benefits in the form of jobs, or essential products, or tax revenue.

When a government, at any level, gives assistance or incentive to businesses in order to increase their productivity or encourage growth, we all benefit. These are not "gifts" from the government; they are truly investments that pay a dividend to society. These investments aren't always the best ones, and their is corruption and disappointment, but when government acts to facilitate or encourage commerce, it is fulfilling its primary role in promoting the general welfare.

Large parts of our country, for instance, depend on coal for their electricity. This process has many drawbacks, but it is a product that most people don't want to do without. The local and federal governments assist this effort because the product it is absolutely essential for the continuing operation of our society. That's not "big government", it's a bare necessity.
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Bibulus
On my way back from Hawaii with the long-form bio
12:29 PM on 05/25/2010
Not all corporation are evil. Some certainly are. Broad strokes seldom paint a fine picture.

I'd like to take issue with your first paragraph sir and hopefully you can clarify a few things.

Small business not large corporations provide most of the jobs.
The earth provides the raw materials, not corporations as you claim.
Individuals pay the bulk of the taxes in this country not large corporations.

...it's hard to take your arguments seriously when you lead off your paragraph with falsehoods.
Try again.
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WilliamBradford
Veritas vos Liberabit
12:38 PM on 05/25/2010
The author does not distinguish between large and small businesses, both of which are corporations. It's true that most people work for a "small" corporation, but these are just as likely to be "guilty" of the accusations the author makes.

"The earth" doesn't provide. It exists. For the most part, it is only the industry, investment, and toil of people - working for corporations - that turn the potential of the earth into raw materials and other useful output.

It's true that most tax revenue comes from individuals, but most of those individuals - and especially those that pay most of the taxes - work for corporations. So, it is the successful and (pardon the term) profitable operation of the corporation that makes the tax revenue possible.
12:44 PM on 05/25/2010
But it's not a necessity to prevent business from discriminating against groups of people? I guess everyone has their own priorities.
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WilliamBradford
Veritas vos Liberabit
12:57 PM on 05/25/2010
This article was not about discrimination.
DanBest
My micro bio is empty
11:36 AM on 05/25/2010
Libertarians are a lot like the drunk guy in the passenger seat making car sounds and steering with a paper plate. By all means let them think they're actually driving the car. No harm in that. Just don't put them behind the actual steering wheel or we will all end up in the ditch.
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ChiBloger
And the truth shall set us ALL free
11:52 AM on 05/25/2010
So what If? What if he actually gets to drive the car? This guy could possibly be the next senator from KY. Of course he would only be representing Kentucky but he would also be voting on things of benefit to us all which his philosophy prohibits him from supporting. In the not so old days we would call this guy a loose cannon or worst a kook and he would never be in striking distance of our institutions.
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Renifer
Tea-Partiers are really Neo-Birchers
12:58 AM on 05/26/2010
In the old days we had the fairness doctrine and news organizations that did not need to make a profit and were not beholden to sponsors and advertizers in a 24/7 news cycle.
In the old days we didn't have a concentration of only 6 corporations that provide all of the "news". We didn't have Fox "News" blasting from every tv in every public place, propagandizing us and making everyone feel that this tiny minority of religious-hate-filled-whackjobs, anti-goverment-secessionist-racists and free-market-Reaganomics-flat-earth -Thomas-Friedmann-crackpipe-smokin-crackpots who believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old matter in the least. We would have laughed at them.
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peterg76
Freelance medical transcriptionist
11:31 AM on 05/25/2010
To intellectually honest people, hypocrisy is a terrible, shameful accusaion. Other people are proud of it, or will vote for a hypocrite fully expecting them to be hypocritical.
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Jdaddy1951
11:03 AM on 05/25/2010
Dr. Paul will not win in November. More than two-thirds --- 68 percent --- of Kentucky's voters registered as Democrats in the recent primary election. Next senator will be Jack Conway, the Democratic nominee.
11:11 AM on 05/25/2010
They may register as Democrats but they vote like southern Democrats of the forties and fifties.
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Jdaddy1951
01:22 PM on 05/25/2010
Hmm ... then you'd think they would have voted in the GOP primary, since Rand Paul is obviously targeting those Dixiecrats. Could it be they see him as more of a carpetbagger than a Teabagger?
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PathofTotality
Regret serves no purpose
12:41 PM on 05/25/2010
Though it's not 100% related to the article, this might be of interest plus, maybe I can get some answers. The below link is to the Kentucky State Board of Elections. The link in it that sayd "Voter Registration Card" will open a pdf file that you can fill out if you want to register or change your political affiliation. This second thing is what I started to do last week. I stopped based on the verbiage where you check "Republican", Democrat" or "Other". I started to check other but the statement below it stopped me. My question is, is this the same for all states?

http://elect.ky.gov/register.htm
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BuckJ
I read a book once.
01:06 PM on 05/25/2010
I don't know the numbers, but I do know that SOME states allow people to vote in primaries who aren't party registered.
11:01 AM on 05/25/2010
lol...look at the lack of rational comments from the right wingers here....lol
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Nutcase
From Nashville, Tennistan.
10:55 AM on 05/25/2010
Libertarianism in no way qualifies as a philosophy. It is a temper tantrum by spoiled brats who want what they want and scream and stomp rather than offer rational arguments. We heard cries last year about how terrible it was for the government to offer stimulus funds. It was said to be un-American. Now Bobby Jindal is on television every day complaining that government help is too slow in coming. Did any of these principled philosophers turn down the government help when a natural disaster hit them? How about when a 'free market' banker destroyed their economy or a 'free market' corporation devastated their ecology and economic base? They have no philosophy other than hypocrisy.
10:09 AM on 05/27/2010
What does Bobby Jindal, or the rest of the Republican Party for that matter, have to do with Libertarianism?
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Nutcase
From Nashville, Tennistan.
10:15 AM on 05/27/2010
Their claimed devotion to small government.
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xenubarb
Nebulon V
10:42 AM on 05/25/2010
Ahem. If corporations were left to roam our landscapes unfettered, it doesn't take a genius to predict what would happen.

All we need do is look to China as an example. Or the toxic dumps and poisoned lakes found in the former Soviet Union. And if we look to the past, we see things were even worse. Upton Sinclair's 'The Jungle' focused on the miserable lives of exploited workers in the meat packing industry. Black lung disease plagued coal miners of old. The death toll due to the negligence or lack of concern of the rich for the poor is historical proof that corporations absolutely cannot be let off the leash without dire consequences.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
05:23 PM on 05/26/2010
This is the part that Ayn Rand left out of her elist-glorification propaganda.
10:40 AM on 05/25/2010
Rand Paul needs to read Ian Bremer's "The End of the Free Market".
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old timer 37
Retired CEO, engineer
10:36 AM on 05/25/2010
We have an interesting and fallacious cultural myth: that the role of management is simply to maximize the return on investment to the stockholders, as if they are the only ones responsible for the existence and health of the corporation. No obligations to society or financial debt to a healthy government.
Without laws enforced by government and mostly voluntary adherence to them due to universal education, there would be no mechanism to pool investors’ resources and operate them, no stockholders, no intellectual or corporate property rights. Such laws evolved from the 17th century to the present. Government pays for codifying and enforcing laws and for universal education that enables us to follow them coherently..
Without an effective transportation infrastructure, largely paid for by government including the education for how business and individuals can use it jointly, policed by government to eliminate "highway robbery" as a cost of business, businesses couldn't deal with large markets without building in the cost of private security forces and weeks to transport goods.
The list goes on, but Rand Paul and other juvenile politicians lack any sense of the intimate involvement of a healthy government in any successful business; a role for which most large businesses already get a free ride! They are the greatest recipients of welfare, much of which the executives suck out of the companies to pad their compensations. We have created “hot house” corporations that couldn’t exist in a cold cruel world.
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WilliamBradford
Veritas vos Liberabit
12:29 PM on 05/25/2010
What is "juvenile" is to see the world as some kind of conflict between corporations and people. Most of our corporation are managed by citizens, employ lots of citizens, and provide the products and services demanded by our citizens. This also creates the taxable activity that fuels our governments.

Of course, we do want government facilitation of industry and trade. This benefits our citizens. We also want government regulation and standardization to improve the quality and productivity of industry and trade. This benefits citizens and corporations alike.
12:41 PM on 05/25/2010
Bill, stop with the common sense and rationale thought. You're hurting my head.
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old timer 37
Retired CEO, engineer
01:43 PM on 05/25/2010
There are both mutual benefits and intrinsic conflicts between corporate interests and those of people... including employees, investors, suppliers, bankers, etc. Look at the oil spill where safety was sacrificed for costs and schedule, or the Massey coal mine disaster. The issue is how do we resolve those conflicts (post facto with legal proceedings and pro-actively with education) and who pays for the infrastructure that avoids or resolves intrinsic conflicts. Right now, corporations are getting a free ride and their executives whine like juveniles that they're overregulated.

If you think there are no intrinisic conflicts between corporate interests and those of citizens, then I suggest you need to re-examine your position. I started 4 companies, 2 successful, and was a CEO for 16 years.... I fully appreciate the benefits of corporations to society, but worked with intrinsic conflicts between the two for most of my career. There is nothing "wrong" with intrinsic conflicts.... they just are and must be properly managed, they can never be resolved. I've posted several essays on this subject on my blog. One of them is :

http://www.dismountingourtiger.com/business-health/how-we-abuse-entitlements-and-mismanage-intrinsic-conflicts-to-cripple-our-nation-part-2/