During the Democratic debate in Philadelphia, Hillary Clinton gave the following gloss on her Bosnia fairytale: "I can tell you that I may be a lot of things but I'm not dumb... On a couple of occasions in the last weeks, I just said some things that weren't in keeping with what I knew to be the case ...on a few occasions I was not as accurate as I have been in the past... So I will either try to get more sleep...or have somebody who is there as a reminder to me. "
Huh?
Ordinarily, saying things that aren't in keeping with what one knows to be the case is called "lying". And what's dumb got to do with it? No one ever accused Hillary of being dumb. And dumb couldn't explain her Bosnia remarks anyhow.
Yet bizarrely enough, the press didn't seem to notice or comment on the utter absurdity of her remarks. Either they were accepted as some kind of apology or they were relegated to the ever-expanding swamp of campaign "gaffes" and "silliness."
In any case, the Bosnia story has now been overshadowed -- most recently by the lunatic performances of Reverend Wright. But whether or not Reverend Wright is a nut-job is not remotely the same order of question as whether snipers were shooting at Hillary Clinton. Everyone senses this, even if they can't articulate it.
It is truly unsettling to watch someone lie so effortlessly and with such seeming sincerity. To recap: Hillary, sporting a big festive shamrock scarf, looked straight at the audience and in a remarkably relaxed way recalled an incident where she had landed in Bosnia under sniper fire. She described a situation so dangerous that the greeting ceremony at the airport had to be canceled and claimed that she'd run to her vehicle with her head down in order to make a quick getaway. She even had an accompanying hand gesture conveying her dramatic dash for dear life.
There were no obvious tells that Hillary was bluffing. She chuckled a little as she described her narrow escape -- a curious affect given the gravity of the situation, but people do react in different ways to trauma. Overall, it was a pretty smooth performance. If there were any pangs of conscience they were not visible.
As political lies go, it was an outlier. Hillary didn't impulsively lie because she was caught off-guard. She didn't lie because the truth would be damaging to her political career or painful to her family. She didn't lie to win over a political base. She didn't lie to distance herself from an event that suggested some improper conduct or an unsavory person that could tarnish her reputation. She didn't lie because she was promoting behavior in the public sphere that she was not abiding by in her personal life. She didn't lie to cover up a mistake that had been made.
Hillary's lie was different. She lied with no need to do so. And she made the story up out of whole cloth. It wasn't as if one bullet was fired at her and she exaggerated the incident. There was no sniper fire - never, ever. It was the sort of lie a child might tell playing make-believe. In an article in Huffington Post, Nora Ephron confessed that she'd "lost hours trying to figure out why" Hillary told such "a big lie".
But let's say she was motivated by political gain. Some have suggested the story was meant to embellish her foreign policy experience. But dodging sniper fire doesn't really speak to foreign policy expertise; it speaks more to issues of character like bravery and patriotism. Maybe it was supposed to suggest that Hillary could be a better match for John McCain because she too had put herself in harms' way for her country.
Of course, as a political calculation, this would have been crazy. Considering the probability of getting caught, the risks of telling this lie far outweighed any conceivable political gain. As New York Times columnist Frank Rich pointed out her story had "been publicly debunked by journalists and eyewitnesses" for months. "Why would so smart a candidate play political Russian roulette with virtually all the bullet chambers loaded?"
Wouldn't it have entered her mind that if she was found out it would be seen as an insult to anyone who'd seen real action? One GOP ad with grainy footage of McCain limping home from Vietnam contrasted with Hillary's cheerful tale of coming under sniper fire in Bosnia, and the race would be over.
Hillary may have gambled that her audience wanted to believe her. Or she may have figured the story was so tall that the public would never dream she'd made it up. Whatever her thought process, Hillary appeared unfazed by the possibility of detection. Guilt, fear of humiliation, or any other negative repercussions did not appear to inhibit her. Apparently, there was no little voice in her head, helping her to distinguish between right and wrong. Christopher Hitchens concluded that Hillary may be "someone who lies without conscience or reflection".
When Hillary's lie was exposed, she attempted to diminish it. She said she "misspoke" because of sleep deprivation. Then she said she "misspoke" because, after all, she spouts "millions of words a day". But Hillary couldn't have "misspoke" She'd repeated the story on several occasions. Perhaps she was saying that she continually "misspoke". But if she continually "misspoke", surely Chelsea, who had accompanied her to Bosnia, would have pointed this out. (Psst, Mom, nobody was shooting at us).
Maybe there was nothing Hillary could say, but a little remorse would have been nice. Instead she seemed irritated: "So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I'm human which you know for some people is a revelation". In other words, we were to blame for holding her to too high a standard of truth.
When it became apparent that people weren't willing to dismiss Hillary's Bosnia "misstatement" so quickly, she attempted to make light of it. Appearing on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, she joked: "I was so worried I wasn't going to make it [here]. I was pinned down by sniper fire at a Burbank airport." She referred to the Bosnia flap as "a mismatch of words and actions", and since, after all, she'd got it right in her book, she'd "obviously had a lapse".
The Hillary camp must have realized the story wasn't completely dead, because Bill Clinton brought it up again. In a bizarrely misguided attempt to minimize its impact he revived the story in a version of his own : "There was a lot of fulminating because Hillary one time late at night when she was exhausted misstated and immediately apologized for it, what happened to her in Bosnia in 1995... You woulda thought, you know that she'd robbed a bank the way they carried on about this. And some of them when they're 60, they'll forget something when they're tired at 11:00 at night too".
Of course, it wasn't one time. It wasn't late at night. She wasn't exhausted because she said it three different times. And she didn't apologize immediately (or even close to immediately). It also begged the question: If Hillary could be gaga at 11:00 pm, what would she be like when the phone rings at 3:00 am?
When President Clinton's story backfired, Hillary's campaign tried to paint Bill as the storyteller and his wife as the authority. At a rally in Indiana, Bill said: "Hillary called me and said, 'You don't remember this. You weren't there, let me handle it'''. Now let me get this straight: Hillary was there, so Hillary ought to know, except it turned out that Hillary didn't know, so Bill makes up a story to explain the story that Hillary made up even though she was there.
There are two possibilities: Hillary may be a pathological liar. Or, more persuasive to me, Hillary believed what she was saying and her description of her Bosnia trip was a true representation of her psychic reality and not external reality. In her internal world, Hillary may feel as though she's always being shot at by sniper fire and that she's heroically managed to stay alive.
This theory makes sense of Hillary's recklessness. It didn't feel reckless to Hillary to repeat this lie over and over again, and she paid no heed to those who contradicted her, because in her mind, she was telling the truth. Only when confronted with undeniable evidence of external reality -- actual footage from her Bosnia trip - did she admit (possibly to herself as well as the public) that her version of events was not true.
It also explains Hillary's reaction when exposed. She was angry because she was forced to abandon her psychic reality for external reality. For her, this was tantamount to giving up the truth in exchange for mere facts. When she said "It proves I'm human which you know for some people is a revelation", she may well have been reminding herself.
While most of her explanations have made no sense, when Hillary told Leno that she'd had "a lapse", she was right on. She'd had an actual lapse in mental functioning. Fantasy took over from reality. Reporters and pundits were already starting to question whether Hillary believed her own story. Hitchens wondered whether "she was subject to an illusory past". Melinda Henneberger, writing in Slate, said, she could only conclude that Hillary must have believed the lie because she could not imagine any other reason why "any presidential candidate would knowingly cook up such a doozy of a drama about dodging a sniper's bullets in Bosnia -- given that she was accompanied on this trip by a planeload of reporters". Henneberger concluded that this was more disturbing than if she had lied and "ought to be a deal breaker".
This may explain why Hillary's explanation in the Pennsylvania debate was so bizarre: "I can tell you that I may be a lot of things but I'm not dumb." She wanted to shift her problem into the domain of IQ rather than raising a question about her psychic functioning. If people began to question her grasp of reality, she'd be history.
The sensed of a shared reality is fundamental to the functioning of the world. In the same way that delusions and hallucinations are so disturbing, or that contradicting a child's perceptions is so traumatic, so Hillary's story constituted a jarring attack on our sense of common reality.
In the course of Hillary's campaign, a number of features have repeatedly emerged that are also elements of her Bosnia tale. 1) Hillary is both hero and victim; 2) facts are of no consequence; 3) And there are no witnesses or observers to the facts. This last point is always startling. For example, Hillary's explanation of her vote on the war made Nora Ephron wonder if Hillary thought we "weren't alive at the time."
On the tarmac in Bosnia, Hillary is the victim for being shot at and the hero for braving a war zone. And she's apparently having a negative hallucination that nobody else was there. The irony, of course, is that when the Bosnia story was discovered, it reinforced Hillary's psychic reality: Once again she felt she was being sniped at (this time by journalists). And that she had to heroically fight on and escape this near-death experience. Which it now seems she has.
For those who think Hillary won't go all the way to the convention in Denver, think again. Hillary sees herself as the victim in this primary campaign -- blaming the press, or the Democratic rules of proportional representation, or the caucus system, or whatever else she comes up with between now and August. She considers herself a heroic fighter for the good of the country; she ignores all the merely factual evidence that she is losing by every measure; and she imagines that nobody is there to notice.
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Hillary got a big, fat free pass on the Bosnia lie and then her ridiculous explanation for the lie. As pointed out, this was not spur of the moment, a misspeak - this was a planned fabrication designed to boost her image as being tested under fire just like the military elite who surrounded her. And she did it sooooo smoothly.
If she prevails, we can look forward to more smooth lies. The Bosnia story was just her latest demonstration of her facility for lying with a straight face. Doing anything it takes to get elected is not good for the country.
“It is quite possible that someone is insane and they think they have a chance. Not insane in the clinical sense, but they may have such a strong political ambition that they blind themselves to reality.”
Davey Crockett
Oh my, how cruel. Liberals eat their own...then tell us only "neocons" smear.
Hillary's not a liberal, she's one of you neocons.
Exactly, a wolf in sheeps clothing. We're on to her....she 's not one of us.
And then, there's OBAMA. The man who spent 20 years at the feet of Wright in rapture... .then, suddenly, news flash, Obama discovered (with cameras rolling) that NEW INFORMATION CAME IN and that wright is a racist bigot and he dumped him! Ahh, somone needs to pull Wrights name out of that HISTORIC OBAMA RACE SPEECH so that it can go down with the greats like MLK and LINCON and HOOVER and MOSES and CHANGE!
LAUGH.
If George Bush had told the Bosnia story you'd be all over him like a cheap suit. Instead you try the "look over there" tactic. Pathetic as usual. As for, "The man who spent 20 years at the feet of Wright in rapture... ." Give me a break. That's an extreme exaggeration of Obama's relationship with Wright and you know it. You're entire post is a fabrication; intellectually dishonest and distorted. No wonder you support Hillary.
How adorable, your laughing and making statements that have no factual basis but are all based on innuendo and fear. I wouldn't be laughing about that if I were you, I would seek assistance.
illinoisan - (used to be one myfineself)
It's imperative that Ladowsky keep the Bosnian lie alive.
It isn't necessary for this run for the Dem nomination. It's settled.
The Dem Super-D's wouldn't DARE stiff Obama. The societal implosion is unthinkable, to them. (I, for one, couldn't care less.)
No, debunking the Hill-Rod persona is vital to ridding the Senate of this cancer.
It's a rare pleasure to read a beautifully reasoned piece from a psychological perspective instead of the usual endless regurgitation of the same tedious talking points that passes for political analysis. Thank you, Dr. Ladowsky and Huffington Post.
Ya, second that!
What I don't understand is why neither the press or her opponent picked up on her admission of being a liar, as saying things that one knows aren't "in keeping with what one knows to be the case" is.
Obama is too polite and the MSM are too craven to use the "L" word but they've been given the perfect euphamism - "she says things that she knows aren't in keeping with what she knows to be the case."
Why have we been listening to the words of some crank preacher for a week and not the very words of one of the people actually running for the president?
[quote]Appearing on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, she joked: "I was so worried I wasn't going to make it [here]. I was pinned down by sniper fire at a Burbank airport."[ /quote]
Isn't it odd that a candidate for president would throw out a joke that kind of incorporates a terrorist act like snipers in the airport at Burbank? I thought she wanted to keep us safe from terrorists.
To the Clintons, lying is breathing.
If Obama achieves nothing else in life, for kicking the disgusting Hill-Rod Relentless Ambition Carnival to the curb - I hope they chisel his visage on Mt. Rushmore.
What a brilliant article.
I agree the article was superb. But what's your handicap?
As usual an Obama supporter with nothing good to say about Obama, just a pointless and baseless attack on Ms. Clinton. It ought to make people wonder why no Obama supporter seems willing or able to write something specific or substantive about Obama.
"seems willing or able to write something specific or substantive about Obama" - NO ONE should say this with a straight face, at least anyone with half a brain. At this point in the game if you don't know, your eyes are glued shut. This has been going on for a year. Do you HONESTLY think someone could get this far, with nothing? Sorry Bubba, that's not how it works. You refuse to see the reality of the situation, and as a result you sound ridiculous.
Wow, your writing is really incredible. I love your insight. I'm now a fan!
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"her description of her Bosnia trip was a true representation of her psychic reality and not external reality"
This is really right - on, her description of the whole Bosnia trip was a kind of dream sequence, that accurately reflects her sense that she is under attack, and that she will never make it to the 'welcoming committee.
I'm a big follower of Jung - and your writing has that clarity. Great job. So much of reality is constructed with symbols in the unconscious, and there is such a tragic lack of insight and analysis into the unconscious in contemporary writing.
I also just read your post on 'Star Trek and Pedophilia" - I recommend HuffPo readers check it out - another amazing, thoughtful and insightful post. So much of what you had to say makes sense and rings true. Thanks for shedding light on these strange times.
The effort you put into your article is admirable, your analysis credible, the topic a waste of time. If she were a child in a fantasy or a delusional psychotic who failed to take her medication, it might be worth discussing. Hillary should not be studied by someone as talented as yourself in your field. Hillary and Bill should be studied by a paleontologist. They are the remains of something that once walked the earth, with the appearance at that time that they were relevant. Today however they are not. In astronomy they would be called a nebula. The left over remains of a star that once burned brightly, and which then experienced a supernova. The fuel is gone, the star is gone and all that is left is this shell we see existing through a telescope. Time goes on, the universe goes on. We have gone on! The problem is that they don't as yet realize they are dead, irrelevant to the world we now have before us. They come with old tales, old formulas, old superstitions, old racism, and old divisions. Sure they have an audience, but so does Satan and so did Hitler. Just because the crowd screams does not change their very nature.
Maybe we need a forensic pathologist instead to examine this new phenomena. How the dead still walks and talks. Faust had a name for it, Homunculus. Know it when you see it, and beware, lest you too end up as Faustian horror story.
Nice nebula analogy. It really works.
Hillary lies because no one in the last twenty years has been in a position where they could call her on it and continue working for the Clintons or have access to the Clintons. This woman is the emperor who is definately naked and no one of merit can or will tell her. Obviously the peope, the bloggers and the media all mean nothing to her, our opinion on her lies and public outrage over them is nothing but chattering to her ears, easily ignored and justified by the circle of yes men around her continually stroking her ego.
Here is a thought; what would the secret service detail assigned to protect her as first lady have to say about her Hillaryship, I am sure it would burn our ears off.
There wasn't as much citizen video available in the 1990's when Bill was president.
When I was an attorney practicing criminal law my favorite clients were the ones who gave the "right" answer to the following: Q: :"So, why did you do it?" A: "Because I thought I could get away with it". We will never get this kind of candor from BillHill. The Clintons have made the mistake that many criminals make and that is that they believe their own bullshit. The truth is elastic. People are so fucking stupid they will believe just about anything you tell them. Show your utter contempt for "the people" by seeing how much of your bullshit they will buy.
But leogorcey, that's exactly what Bill Clinton said:
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Clinton Cheated 'Because I Could'
Rather: "The central question, if I may, and I know this is difficult, the central question is why?"
Clinton: "I think I did something for the worst possible reason -- just because I could. I think that's the most , just about the most morally indefensible reason that anybody could have for doing anything. When you do something just because you could ... I've thought about it a lot. And there are lots of more sophisticated explanations, more complicated psychological explanations. But none of them are an excuse ... Only a fool does not look to explain his mistakes."
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Wasn't this in hindsight? AFTER he'd won the impeachment battle and had nothing left to lose by being honest . . . finally?
Is it different when you still have a vested interest in maintaining the lie?
How right you are! Unfortunately, the Billary followers and supporters are dumb enough to believe her lies. She lies and they swear for her. I disagree with some of the posts above as I do think Hillary Clinton is clinically ill. I think her ego, sense of superiority and entitlement and hunger for power have demented her mental perceptions. I also believe that if Obama wins the nomination (I should have said "when"), that Hillary will have a mental breakdown. Seeing her as I do, I even believe she'd be willing to destroy Obama's chances of being elected just so she can say, "I told you he couldn't win. Now aren't you sorry you didn't vote for me?" I wouldn't put anything past her. I see her as a vile, hateful person. Also, I used to always love Chelsea Clinton, but each time I see her I get a gut feeling that deep down inside she has the capacity to be every bit as nasty and vindictive as her mom. It's just a vibe I get and my judgement of people is usually pretty accurate.
When you're trying to say 96 and you say 69, then you "misspoke. "
When you fabricate a tale that was completely and provably false, you "lied."
Hillary Clinton lied. People who vindicate her for "misspeaking" on this one worry me greatly.
Google "Narcissistic Personality Disorder:" .....chose any of the hyperlinks; scroll thru the symptoms. You will be amazed.
it works for me. Thanks
Here's a secret the Clinton campaign doesn't want you to know:
Obama's campaign has put states that were lost by Kerry into play--Iowa, New Mexico, and Colorado. Whereas Obama is expected to win against McCain in the same states Clinton does, Clinton is expected to LOSE against McCain in the new "swing" states Obama has put into play. With Obama leading the ticket, even with his negatives, voters in these 3 states prefer Obama over McCain and hand McCain the win vs. Clinton!
This is what gives Obama the 270 electoral votes needed to win in the general. Clinton comes up short because she DRIVES DOWN numbers in states Democrats need to secure the presidency. Her "electability" argument is a like a mass hypnosis parlor trick, only it's not working in the Western states and Iowa, to name a few.
She keeps talking about big states that will likely go for McCain anyway. But she fails to mention the new swing states on the electoral map that unabashedly Obama.
you can never know until you see it happen, though. I'm not disagreeing with you. I just can't believe anything other than the results of the actual contest.
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