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Be Patriotic: Go Beefless on July 4th

Posted: 07/03/2012 8:52 am

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The Washington Post published a provocative essay on Sunday that makes the case that hamburgers are the least patriotic food you could eat on the Fourth of July.

"Why your hamburger hates America" looks at the unsavory reality behind the production of hamburger meat and buns, as well as traditional burger garnishes--tomatoes, onions and lettuce. When it comes to the beef itself, author Tracie McMillan points out that just four corporations control more than 85 percent of the meatpacking business. That means it's more likely that cattle are treated inhumanely, workers are treated inhumanely, food safety is given short shrift, and small ranchers are being driven out of business.

It's not a pretty picture, but it's even worse than that. McMillan left out two other major downsides to eating burgers: They're a threat to public health and the future of the planet.

A report released last week by the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS), "Grade A Choice: Solutions for Deforestation-Free Meat," found that Americans would improve their health and protect the climate if they replaced beef with poultry or pork--or just ate less meat altogether.

"We have a big beef with beef," says Doug Boucher, director of UCS's Tropical Forest and Climate Initiative and a co-author of the report. "The more beef Americans eat, the worse global warming gets."

By now, most Americans are aware of the health risks posed by eating beef. It's been linked to a number of potentially life-threatening problems, including coronary heart disease and breast, colon and prostate cancer. But most hamburger, steak and brisket lovers are likely unaware of the environmental problems caused by beef production.

Beef is what scientists would call an "inefficient protein," Boucher explains. It requires substantial resources to produce compared with what it contributes to the human diet. The report found that beef production uses about 60 percent of the world's agricultural land, for example, but produces less than 5 percent of the protein and less than 2 percent of the calories that feed the global population.

Cattle ranching requires huge tracts of land. In Brazil--the biggest net exporter of meat in the world--and other Latin American countries, ranchers clear-cut tropical forests to provide pasture land for their herds. This contributes to global warming in two ways. First, when ranchers cut down trees, much of the carbon they store goes into the atmosphere. Second, grazing cattle produce methane--a powerful gas that has nearly 25 times the warming effect of carbon dioxide--which is released from their stomachs and manure.

Tropical deforestation is responsible for about 15 percent of the world's heat-trapping emissions--more carbon pollution than the emissions from every car, truck, plane, ship and train around the world. As demand for beef goes up worldwide, so too does deforestation.

There are no tropical forests here in the United States, but we can play a role to protect them. If Americans curbed their beef consumption, it would help cut global demand. That, in turn, would lower beef prices, reducing the incentives to cut down forests for cattle pasture land. Lowering demand also could help cut production here at home, where beef cattle--which are mainly fattened in feedlots--account for more than a third of all U.S. agricultural heat-trapping emissions.

"There are a lot of tasty alternatives to beef hamburgers, not only on the Fourth of July, but all year 'round," says Boucher. "Why not try spare ribs, pulled pork sandwiches, turkey burgers or chicken kebabs?"

Although it may seem more Italian than American, pasta would be an even better choice, according to "Cooler Smarter: Practical Steps for Low-Carbon Living," a book published by UCS earlier this year. The book found that producing one pound of beef emits as much global warming pollution as producing 18 pounds of pasta.

Given that every American eats on average some 270 pounds of meat a year--nearly four times the global average--any reduction in U.S. meat consumption would be helpful--and more healthful.

"If we want fewer cancers, less heart disease, more forests, and less global warming," says Boucher, "we should eat less beef."

Elliott Negin is the director of news and commentary at the Union of Concerned Scientists.

 
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I-US
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06:31 PM on 07/08/2012
According to the EPA: "Total livestock CH4 emissions in 2010 were 141.3 Tg CO2 Eq. (6,728 Gg). Beef cattle remain the largest contributor of CH4 emissions from enteric fermentation, accounting for 72 percent in 2010. Emissions from dairy cattle in 2010 accounted for 23 percent, and the remaining emissions were from horses, sheep, swine, goats, American bison, mules, burros, and donkeys. /
From 1990 to 2010, emissions from enteric fermentation have increased by 5.6 percent."

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/Downloads/ghgemissions/US-GHG-Inventory-2012-Chapter-6-Agriculture.pdf
09:13 AM on 07/09/2012
Emissions from manure lagoons are indeed a very real problem. Much needs to be done to change that practice. As the world renownedagriculture expert Gene Logsdon has so articulately laid out, changes in the way we handle it can easily make it a great environmental benefit instead of problem.
I-US
Beware the monsters lurking in word swamps.
10:17 PM on 07/09/2012
We can agree that manure lagoons need to be dealt with.
I-US
Beware the monsters lurking in word swamps.
03:20 PM on 07/08/2012
It would be interesting to see how people challenged the actual report from the UCS and the studies upon which it is based because it is pretty obvious now that many of the commenters here simply have not read it. That must be pretty frustrating for the author of this piece and those interested in actually discussing the findings of the report.
09:20 AM on 07/09/2012
It would be interesting to see what it is that constantly gives I-US magical insights into the minds of others. Is it a special machine created by mad scientists, or a magical device forged by elves and faeries?

In reality, it's actually obvious that many of the commenters here simply disagree with some of its findings. And it is pretty obvious that many of those commenters know a whole ot about agriculture. And it is pretty obvious that that goal of the UCS, which Elliott Negin stated below, to drive down beef prices and drive up demand for industrial pork and chicken, could have disastrous effects for both farmers and the environment.
I-US
Beware the monsters lurking in word swamps.
03:29 PM on 07/09/2012
It's obvious by the comments that some of you jumped the gun on what the report was suggesting. It's advocating the exact same thing as the Special Rapporteur's report on agroecology that some of you are so fond of citing. In both cases, however, you haven't bothered to read for meaning.
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08:01 PM on 07/09/2012
Continued.

The report also states, as a number of people commenting here have pointed out:

"Despite the greater land use needed to eat higher on the food chain, there are bene ts to meat consumption. First, meat is higher in protein than most plants, so you do not need to eat
as much to get the amount of protein necessary for a healthy diet. Second, livestock often eat things that humans cannot (or do not) directly consume: cattle eat grass, poultry eat insects (as
well as grains and fruits), and pigs will eat just about anything. ¬is allows us to produce food from land and resources that would otherwise be unusable. Cattle, for instance, are able to gain sustenance from large areas of rangeland in arid regions that are not suitable for crop production. Further, livestock o er a store of wealth and a form of food security in regions
where crop production is inconsistent (Herrero et al. 2009)."

Do you disagree with this part of the report, or only the parts that seem to identify beef as the root of all evil?
I-US
Beware the monsters lurking in word swamps.
10:13 PM on 07/09/2012
I don't believe that I have suggested the report advocates a vegan or vegetarian diet.
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12:56 AM on 07/10/2012
That quotation developed some strange gaps when I "cut and pasted" from the digital version of the study.  Oh, well ...
02:23 PM on 07/06/2012
@MrNegin, I applaud your willingness to engage with some of the critics of your article.
My criticism begin with your reiteration of the CW that "beef is bad for you". Based on my own study of the data, this is untrue. I'm aware of the "China Study", Ancel Key's work, and our government's wise dietary recommendations, but I'm sure that a man of your resources is also aware of the many studies, current and historical, which refute red meat and saturated fat as one of the chief causes of obesity, heart disease, and various cancers. Instead, the evidence seems to point increasingly to diets excessively rich in carbohydrates, especially those from refined flour and sugar.

I realize that the health aspect of beef is not the main thrust of your article, but when you make such unequivocal and clearly biased statements, the credibility of your article's main content, and that of the organization you work for, suffers. I have not yet studied the effects of industrial beef production on climate change, but from responses here, it seems there is a wealth of other data available on the subject than what is cited in the UCS Report.

I wish that communicators such as yourself, and the scientists you work with, would use less biased rhetoric and more evidence-based argumentation to get their message across. That would truly serve the public interest, change the tone of the discourse, and might even help to convince some people of your position's validity.
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Elliott Negin
UCS Director of News & Commentary
02:39 PM on 07/07/2012
If this isn't convincing, nothing will change your mind.

Risks: More Red Meat, More Mortality
NY Times, 3/12/12

Eating red meat is associated with a sharply increased risk of death from cancer and heart disease, according to a new study, and the more of it you eat, the greater the risk.

The analysis, published online Monday in Archives of Internal Medicine, used data from two studies that involved 121,342 men and women who filled out questionnaires about health and diet from 1980 through 2006. There were 23,926 deaths in the group, including 5,910 from cardiovascular disease and 9,464 from cancer.

People who ate more red meat were less physically active and more likely to smoke and had a higher body mass index.... Still, after controlling for those and other variables, [researchers] found that each daily increase of three ounces of red meat was associated with a 12 percent greater risk of dying over all, including a 16 percent greater risk of cardiovascular death and a 10 percent greater risk of cancer death.

The increased risks linked to processed meat, like bacon, were even greater: 20 percent over all, 21 percent for cardiovascular disease and 16 percent for cancer.

If people in the study had eaten half as much meat...deaths in the group would have declined 9.3 percent in men and 7.6 percent in women.

Previous studies have linked red meat consumption and mortality, but the new results suggest a surprisingly strong link.
08:28 PM on 07/07/2012
Thanks. Certainly food for thought and further study. For anyone interested, the actual paper can be found here: http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1134845
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FaunaAndFlora
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11:46 PM on 07/07/2012
You still seem to think this study proves something. It doesn't. As for how "those factors and other variables were controlled for, in an e-mail communication with Zoe Harcombe, Frank Hu cited age differences between the quintiles, although the differences weren't all that great.

Here is Zoe Harcombe's original article on the study, followed by the e-mail exchange with Frank Hu.

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2012/03/red-meat-mortality-the-usual-bad-science/

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2012/04/red-meat-mortality-the-usual-bad-science-part-2/
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
01:04 PM on 07/06/2012
If you want to save the rain forest, don't buy products made from rain forest woods.

Logging operations are what allow farmers to move in. The land is cleared and roads provided. The loggers move on, the cattle move in. If they stop raising cattle, what makes anyone think they won't start raising something else they can sell?

Buy grass fed and finished beef to avoid CAFO beef and encourage smaller farmers to continue and flourish. Some beef is good for you and while it is fine to cut back to a reasonable level, taking beef off the plate entirely just creates a new set of problems.
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
02:20 PM on 07/06/2012
I forgot. Don't buy rain forest bananas either!

(See how there just isn't a magic bullet solution?)
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10:32 PM on 07/06/2012
Or cocoa or sugar.
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Elliott Negin
UCS Director of News & Commentary
12:18 AM on 07/07/2012
mothergrace: My blog suggests that Americans cut back their consumption of beef. There was no mention of going, if you will, cold turkey. That said, what kind of problems does "taking beef off the plate entirely" create?

As for your argument about what is driving deforestation, logging is a factor, but cattle production is the main driver, at least in Brazil, according to Rhett Butler at Mongobay.com:

"Cattle ranching is the leading cause of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon. This has been the case since at least the 1970s: government figures attributed 38 percent of deforestation from 1966-1975 to large-scale cattle ranching. Today the figure is closer to 60 percent, according to research by Brazil's National Institute for Space Research (INPE) and its Agricultural Research Corporation (Embrapa). Most of the beef is destined for urban markets, whereas leather and other cattle products are primarily for export markets.

"Brazil is today the world's largest exporter and producer of beef. Much of its expansion has taken place in the Amazon, which currently has more than 80 million head of cattle, up from 26.6 million in 1990 and equivalent to more than 85 percent of the total U.S. herd. The Brazilian Amazon has more than 214,000 square miles of pasture, an open space larger than France."

For more information, see: http://www.mongabay.com/brazil.html
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Elliott Negin
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12:49 AM on 07/07/2012
And from the UCS report: "In the 1980s and ’90s more than 100 million hectares of
agricultural land were developed in the global tropics, and 55 percent of this land came from intact forests (Gibbs et al. 2010). A further 28 percent came from previously disturbed forests (Gibbs et al. 2010). In the Latin American tropics, that new agricultural land was overwhelmingly turned into cattle pasture—about 42 million hectares, versus only about 7 million hectares of cropland. In the Amazon basin of Brazil, the largest
tropical-forest country, more than 75 percent of the deforested land had been turned into pasture by 2007 (May and Millikan 2010; Bustamante, Nobre, and Smeraldi 2009)."
I-US
Beware the monsters lurking in word swamps.
12:30 PM on 07/06/2012
The recent FAO report calls for a reduction in the consumption of livestock as well. This is a policy paper for RIo:
http://www.fao.org/docrep/015/an894e/an894e00.pdf

And here was a summary of it that was recently featured on the HP:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lawrence/feeding-the-world-rio20-conference_b_1610340.html?utm_hp_ref=food#comments

Mr. Negin's discussion of the UCS's report and the links to it are valuable additions to the discussion that has been well under way.
01:11 PM on 07/06/2012
Really I-US, you think that we should ignore humane animal treatment, and instead eat more industrial pork and chicken to drive down beef prices, because even though they are far less humane, they take up less land? Interesting to see that you agree with Mr Negin on that.
I-US
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01:32 PM on 07/06/2012
No. I agree that intensive livestock operations are environmentally destructive.
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Elliott Negin
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01:34 PM on 07/06/2012
This is a separate issue. It's an important one, but it's besides the point. UCS has published a number of reports on the negative impacts of industrial agriculture. See http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agriculture/science_and_impacts/impacts_industrial_agriculture/
10:06 AM on 07/06/2012
"Because some people use the cow abusively by denying this normal role is not reason to demonize the cow any more than it would be proper to eliminate automobiles because someone drives one recklessly. Not a single long-term tillage system on earth exists without an herbivorous component. You can’t just substitute tofu (made from tillage–soybeans) for the herbivore. It doesn’t work ecologically. Period. No matter how much you like tofu.

This is perhaps one of the biggest misunderstandings people have about farming ecology. In a desire to get rid of the cow, they want to substitute plants that require tillage. No long-term example exists in which tillage is sustainable. It always requires injection of biomass from outside the system or a soil-development pasture cycle. To think that plants which require tillage can build soil like perennial pasture indicates environmental absurdity."

--Joel Salatin
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09:18 AM on 07/06/2012
Elliot Negin, your intention is well received but not practical at all. I hardly eat beef , only to avoid red meat. You say the perception is changing, that is perhaps less than one percent. Have you gone to wall mart or sam's recently , oe enen in middle class grocers ?Whenever I go I get horrified to see so many obese folks, young, then some in wheel chairs. What they buy ? Stacks of beef or something so unhealthy makes you come back home and starve.

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10:36 PM on 07/06/2012
Beef doesn't make you fat. Meat in general doesn't make you fat. However you do want to minimise, from a health perspective, the meat sourced from anywhere that uses chemicals, hormones and intensive farming. But in fact, whether you're eating meat or vegetables, you want to minimise unhealthy inputs in the production, so meat is no different from any other food source in that respect. The people in Walmart who are fat are probably eating a diet too high in refined carbs, but if I were you I'd also stop judging them on their weight...are you able to tell if they in the PROCESS of losing weight? I doubt it.
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08:29 AM on 07/07/2012
This is unrealistic on so many levels "However you do want to minimise, from a health perspective, the meat sourced from anywhere that uses chemicals, hormones and intensive farming." say it to someone on a poverty level.
No reason to snigger at me with your lecture. When I see a 400 plus person, I worry about their state of mind and diet. You fail with your lecture for obtaining good cuts, obviously some do not a have the choice or could afford.
Try to be polite to a poster next time, run along now...
12:29 AM on 07/06/2012
There are many problems with the UCS report, Grade A Choice? Solutions for Deforestation-Free Meat, which I will take up with the UCS. To clarify things, we only import 0.23% of our total beef consumption from Brazil, which represents 0.3% of Brazil’s total beef production. So Americans can not be held responsible for deforestation in Brazil. The Harvard School of Public Health (HSPH) study to which you and Robert Bazell refer is just another one of the multitude of studies conducted by HSPH and other groups. It is not a definitive study. There are methodological problems with such studies, e.g. self reporting and truthfulness in reporting. The study tries to separate out the effects of red meat consumption and process meat consumption. As far I can tell they do not consider as a factor the consumption of hamburger buns with the hamburgers and hot dog buns with the hot dogs. Do they consider as a factor the consumption of french fries with them? Both the buns and the french fries contain acrylamides, a carcinogen. Also HSPH now states that saturated fat can not be shown to cause chronic conditions (Fats and Cholesterol: Out with the Bad, In with the Good).
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06:36 AM on 07/06/2012
Why would I favor your conclusions over those of UCS. Who are you to malign their report?
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
12:53 PM on 07/06/2012
Research the HSPH data base for yourself if you are not convinced.
10:40 PM on 07/06/2012
I would never take ANY researcher's word ever again. After reading hundreds and hundreds of pieces of research I am appalled at the inability of many, if not most researchers to even see the most pertinent outcomes in the data. If I'm interested in a piece of research I now read it myself, and come to my own conclusions, then I seek out other critical thinkers and see whee they landed with the same data. After that, I have a far better idea of the validity of any claims being made as a result. It's a lot of effort, but very worth it.
I-US
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02:37 PM on 07/06/2012
And here is what the HSPH says in "Fats and Cholesterol: Out with the Bad, in with the Good":

"...some of the media and blog coverage of these studies would have you believe that scientists had given a green light to eating bacon, butter, and cheese. But that’s an oversimplified and erroneous interpretation. Read the study and subsequent studies more closely, and the message is more nuanced: Cutting back on saturated fat can be good for health if people replace saturated fat with good fats, especially, polyunsaturated fats. Eating good fats in place of saturated fat lowers the 'bad' LDL cholesterol, and it improves the ratio of total cholesterol to 'good' HDL cholesterol, lowering the risk of heart disease. Eating good fats in place of saturated fat can also help prevent insulin resistance, a precursor to diabetes."

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-full-story/
10:49 PM on 07/06/2012
This is of course nonsense. Polyunsaturated fats are the dangerous fats. They destroy receptors on human cells and compromise our entire metabolism. They correlate very highly with cancer AND diabetes. Saturated fats correlate with no disease at all, and help us to achieve states of high energy and optimum weight. Cholesterol measures are not health measures except that low cholesterol correlates with higher mortality. I refer you to research presentation "The Oiling of America" on youtube where the facts are presented.
12:03 AM on 07/07/2012
I have read the whole report. I did not mean to imply that it says one should eat large amounts of saturated fats. But it also says that one should not substitute saturated fats with easily digested carbohydrates.
07:10 PM on 07/05/2012
What a steaming pile of completely misguided disinformation. It is genuinely amazing that someone so thoroughly removed from the realities of industrial agriculture that they genuinely believe that pork and chicken production tends to be more humane than beef production, is actually dispensing advice. Truly mind-boggling. No basis in reality whatsoever.

In reality, the vast majority of GHG's from beef production are attributed to land use changes that don't even apply to beef production in North America! So much for the patriotic argument.

And in reality, the vast majority of "agricultural land" being used for beef production is not well suited for any other purpose. Cows turn inedible grasses, often on land that isn't even arable, into food. Amazing that the above report is either oblivious of that, or is shamefully misleading people.

There are very real problems with manure lagoons, but the enteric emissions argument (methane from cow farts) has been thoroughly debunked over and over again. Climate change only applies to new sources of GHG's. There are roughly the same amount of ruminants now as there were long before the advent of animal agriculture, so the enteric emissions argument is easily falsifiable bunk. As Eliot Coleman and others have pointed out, it is nonsense. If you want to look at new sources of methane, you should probably look at rice production, a far more significant source.
I-US
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05:55 PM on 07/05/2012
The article raises many good points and reaffirms many made in the last decade by the UN and other organizations concerned about the increased consumption of beef and its affects on human health, the animals, and the environment.
04:42 PM on 07/05/2012
Whoops.
11:49 AM on 07/05/2012
Wow, The American Cattlemans Assoc. have their people swamping this board with propaganda.

Cattle grazing on public lands decimates native vegetation, destroys wildlife habitat including vital riparian areas .

And yes I have gone to a no beef diet and the improvement in my health is quite noticeable, before you dismiss it, try two weeks no beef for yourself.
12:52 PM on 07/05/2012
"Cattle grazing on public lands decimates native vegetation, destroys wildlife habitat including vital riparian areas."

You're thinking of monocrops. Modern wheat, corn, soy, and rice are having a vastly more profound negative effect on the environment.

And no, amazingly enough, I don't work for the American Cattleman's Association. I'll respect you enough not to accuse you of working for Monsanto.
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11:54 PM on 07/05/2012
When properly managed, pasturing ruminants will rebuild topsoil, recharge watersheds, increases biodiversity and sequesters carbon.

http://www.soilcarbon.com.au/case_studies/pdf/08TL_SCCPPP_En.pdf
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Elliott Negin
UCS Director of News & Commentary
10:07 AM on 07/05/2012
Top findings from the UCS report on beef production and global warming:

Beef production uses more agricultural land than all other food sources combined.

* Nearly 60 percent of the world's agricultural land is used for beef production, yet beef accounts for less than 2 percent of the world's calories.

* Beef makes up about 24 percent of the world's meat consumption, yet requires 30 million square kilometers (11.6 million square miles) of land to produce. Poultry (34 percent of global meat consumption) and pork (40 percent) each use less than 2 million square kilometers (772,000 square miles) of land.

* Beef production is an inefficient use of food resources. Chickens need to consume 2 kilograms of grain to produce 1 kilogram of meat. Pigs need 4 kilograms. For beef cattle the ratio is 10 to 1.

Livestock production has global impacts.

* Tropical deforestation is responsible for about 15 percent of the world's global warming emissions and adversely affects the planet's biodiversity.

* The expansion of meat production, epecially beef, has been a major driver of deforestation over the last 20 years, responsible for about 45 percent of the heat-trapping gases produced by deforestation.

* Cows produce extensive amounts of methane during the digestive process, a potent heat-trapping gas that exits the cow from both ends and causes about 23 times as much global warming per molecule as carbon dioxide. Large amounts of manure are also a leading cause of water pollution.
07:54 PM on 07/05/2012
* Sorry Elliott, I suspect your intentions are good, but you clearly don't actually know what agricultural land is. The vast majority of land used for beef production is not well suited for plant agriculture. Ruminants turn inedible grasses, largely on land that isn't even arable, into food. As opposed to plant agriculture, when done right, the deep-rooted perennial grass systems that the entire ecosystem depends on are actually increased, as are the microorganisms that the entire ecosystem depends on as well.

*Again, if you understood what rangeland is, you would know how laughably ridiculous it is to compare the acreage used in beef production to the land used for pork and chicken. Have you ever taken a drive through the country and noticed the cows grazing on the hills as you drive by?

*Beef requires no grain at all. The side products of grain production, such as defatted meal and silage, are often used for feed. There is certainly lots of room for improvement in how we produce beef.

All agriculture, plant and animal, has global impacts. Beef production can actually increase soil vitality, increase organic matter in the soil, increase biodiversity (particularly native pollinator habitat), increase soil structure, increase soil retention and water tables, and sequester carbon. Plant ag, all plant ag, operates at a deficit.
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Elliott Negin
UCS Director of News & Commentary
11:42 PM on 07/05/2012
You may be correct about beef production in parts of the United States, but the report that I am talking about focuses on the fact that demand for beef is driving tropical deforestation, which in turn releases global warming emissions.
07:55 PM on 07/05/2012
cont...

*So don't by beef from the tropics. And by the way, the 15% figure is simply not true. It comes from a number of basic errors, including ascribing all land use change in the tropics to beef production, when in fact logging and shift cultivators are both responsible for more than beef production, which usually comes after.

*Again, that isn't true.

The enteric emissions argument has been thoroughly debunked over and over again. It is easily falsifiable bunk. Climate change only applies to new GHG's. The number of ruminants now is roughly the same as it was long before the advent of animal agriculture, so your argument is blatantly false. If you want to look at new sourcers of methane, look at rice production.
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Elliott Negin
UCS Director of News & Commentary
11:44 PM on 07/05/2012
Debunked by what studies? Please furnish the citations and the links. Everything in that report is sourced.
I-US
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02:25 PM on 07/06/2012
From the report to which you link:

"World ruminant numbers are still increasing after a temporary pause in the late 1990’s. This temporary pause is most likely a result of a turn down in the wool industry and subsequent reductions in wool sheep flocks around the world (Figure 2). For the time period 1979 to 1999 the large ruminant equivalent population increased at the rate of 9.15 million head/year but since 1999 the growth rate has increased to 16.96 million head/year. / In the global balance of methane, ruminants accounted for 15.7% of global and 25.7% of anthropogenic methane production."
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08:58 AM on 07/05/2012
Wow. This article simply does not pass the truth test, and is grossly irresponsible. I expected better from the Union of Concerned Scientists. Pastured-only beef is one of the most environmentally-friendly foods there is. It is also one of the most humane meats, as the cattle do not ever live in confinement. The author has apparently never seen an industrial hog farm and its associated "lagoons" or else he would not be promoting spare ribs as an environmentally favorable alternative. Nor is the chicken and turkey he also promotes any better. We had grass-fed burgers from a local family producers for dinner yesterday, and are proud to have done so. Supporting your local family farms and ranches over big ag is the patriotic thing to do, sir.
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10:55 AM on 07/05/2012
The main point of the new UCS report, "Grade A Choice," is the link between beef production and global warming, which is significant. The other issues you cite are certainly important, and UCS has published a number of reports that criticize CAFOs. For a list of UCS reports on industrial agriculture, see http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agriculture/science_and_impacts/impacts_industrial_agriculture/
07:58 PM on 07/05/2012
Elliott, you don't even understand your own sources. The majority of GHG's attributed to beef production are for land use changes that don't even apply to North America! Which makes your rhetoric about patriotism particularly ironic.
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glockman
08:31 AM on 07/05/2012
""We have a big beef with beef," says Doug Boucher, director of UCS's Tropical Forest and Climate Initiative and a co-author of the report. "The more beef Americans eat, the worse global warming gets."

This is why me, and many other Americans (and people in general) are not as excited or concerned with the global warming movement.

You lecture us like little children with doom and gloom apocalyptic rhetoric and expect us to fall in line and worship your suggestions as though they are gospel.

What you should be doing is working on better ways to produce beef; ways that don't feed the corporate machine (and the resultant inhumane treatment of the labor force), ways that don't endanger our natural environments and habitats. If you did, I'd be right there willing to help.

We eat beef. That's never going to change. And all your bitter words will not serve to lead us to your cause. You will only further alienate us unless you offer better solutions.
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Elliott Negin
UCS Director of News & Commentary
11:09 AM on 07/05/2012
Glockman: Your assertion "We eat beef. That's never going to change." is simply not true. It has been changing. As the co-author of "Grade A Choice," Doug Boucher, points out in a recent blog, beef consumption in the United States has been declining since the mid-1970s, while our consumption of chicken has gone up. See http://blog.ucsusa.org/beef-tropical-forests-our-climate-and-our-health

There are no "bitter words" in my blog. And Boucher's report does offer better solutions: Eat less meat, especially beef.
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glockman
01:44 PM on 07/05/2012
" Your assertion "We eat beef. That's never going to change." is simply not true. It has been changing."

Declining is not a complete cessation. As long as one person eats beef, my assertion carries weight. I know for a fact that I will continue to eat beef, as will many, many others I know.

And how convenient that you ignore the terrible conditions under which chickens are raised in corporate farms/chicken hatcheries.

I don't need people to tell me to eat less meat. I know how much is good for me, and how much exercise is needed to counter the beef I do consume.