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WomenTALK 2011 Survey on Sex: What We Want Isn't What We Get

Posted: 11/08/11 08:15 AM ET

Most of us wouldn't be surprised to learn that many women's real sex lives don't match their ideal sex lives. Unfortunate maybe, but not breaking news -- except according to yet another survey discussing the connection between sex and women's health.

The WomenTALK 2011 Survey, commissioned by HealthyWomen, a non-profit that produces women's health-focused publications, asked over 1,000 women living in the U.S. a variety of questions about their sex lives, their sexual satisfaction and their views on sexual health. The press release frames the results as proof that women just don't get how much a healthy sex life will make them healthier overall:

While many women seem to be on the perpetual "quest" for youth and the ultimate anti-aging remedies, it seems the key to staying young may be right inside their bedroom. But according to a new survey, few women recognize the wellness benefits of a healthy sex life.

There's a lot wrong with the way this survey is presented, but one valuable piece of information it offers is that only 42 percent of the women surveyed rated sexual health as "very or extremely important" to their overall health. As HuffPost Women previously reported, many of the physical and mental health benefits of sexual activity and orgasm are very real (i.e. it's a form of physical activity and it relieves stress), and encouraging women to pay attention to their sexual health and general wellness is definitely a good thing.

However, focusing too much on women's simple lack of knowledge about said health benefits -- and downplaying the survey's other findings -- misses the mark somewhat. (Also, given the extensive media coverage of these possible health effects -- "10 Surprising Health Benefits of Sex," "17 Health Benefits of Sex," "The Secret Health Benefits of Sex" -- it seems surprising that so many women are ignorant of them.) Women might be better served if researchers explored why we aren't absorbing this information in the first place, how it might be more effectively distributed to us, and what we should being doing with it. It might also be helpful to know if men are more aware of the health benefits of sex than women. If not, why so much emphasis on educating women specifically about those benefits? If so, does knowing the health perks cause men to have more or better sex? If it doesn't, is it all that useful to educate men or women about its salubrious effects?

The survey also brings up some important issues besides women's sexual health knowledge, or lack thereof -- issues that I'd argue can't be fixed by telling women that having sex will help them burn calories or give them younger-looking skin. One of these is the gulf that exists between what women believe is important to having a happy and healthy sex life and how satisfied they actually are in those areas.

For example, 63 percent of women surveyed rated "connecting with my partner" as extremely or very important, while only 42 percent are extremely or very satisfied with the level of connection in their sexual relationships. In the same vein, 59 percent said their "level of enjoyment" during sexual activity is extremely or very important, while only 41 percent are actually very satisfied. We can talk about the health benefits of sex until we're blue in the face, but until we start really addressing the importance of a woman's pleasure and empowering women to engage with their partners (and themselves) to achieve it, little will change. (And let's be honest, if something doesn't feel good, who's going to want to keep doing it long enough to access the health benefits?)

"While pleasure and intimacy with your partner should be the primary drivers to have sex, the health and wellness benefits are a big bonus," Naomi Greenblatt, M.D. told HealthyWomen. Describing health benefits as a bonus, rather than the impetus for sex, is exactly how we should be framing these conversations to begin with.

And to get the bonus, you need to a) find a partner you want to be sexual with, b) understand what gives you pleasure and c) experience that pleasure with your partner. And if you succeed in all of that, your health probably isn't going to be what's on your mind.

 

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Most of us wouldn't be surprised to learn that many women's real sex lives don't match their ideal sex lives. Unfortunate maybe, but not breaking news -- except according to yet another survey discuss...
Most of us wouldn't be surprised to learn that many women's real sex lives don't match their ideal sex lives. Unfortunate maybe, but not breaking news -- except according to yet another survey discuss...
 
 
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altheschrod
I'm pedaling hard.
09:10 PM on 11/10/2011
I don't understand why sex articles don't begin by telling women to "get on top" (?) Problems couples have in the missionary position are due to the sweaty man trying like hell to 1) please his mate and 2) reach orgasm before he gives himself a heart attack. I realize macho guys want to be "in charge", but they must be convinced their sex lives would be much better off with mama on top doing the work. With her "directing" things, you both will find more satisfaction.
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Effren Hernandez
Now go, tell the others
01:19 AM on 11/11/2011
Ok, any body else has another silly opintion?
08:20 PM on 11/10/2011
Uuuuhh...as a health educator I am very concerned with the "tips" to get the bonus. Shouldn't it be a partner you want to be sexual with AND are in a MONOGAMOUS relationship with? Because really are all of the other benefits of sex worth it if you contract an STI?
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Effren Hernandez
Now go, tell the others
01:22 AM on 11/11/2011
Could you spell out the meaning of STI, I mean, we got the space to do it.
10:17 AM on 11/11/2011
Sexually Transmitted Infection [STI], also known as an STD, Sexually Transmitted Disease. Although used interchangeably, STI includes infections that are not medically defined as a disease. Hope that clears it up for you.
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Lamar Chapman III
Spirit-Filled Believer! Common Sense is Uncommon.ï
10:25 PM on 11/09/2011
Greetings America:

The connection of a male and female relationship is subjective and will not be answered by polls based on popularity of the question or the moment.

I've been married for 37 uninterrupted years to a wonderful woman. She would say that our connection is not in line with what she feels that she is entitled to. I would say if you eliminate the impact of "romantic comedy" and unrealistic love stories and social manipulation on her point of view our connection is a perfect ten!

LAMAR C. CHAPMAN III
Oak Brook, Illinois
10:18 AM on 11/11/2011
Lamar, I agree that couples are manipulated to achieve what is shown on the big screen to almost certain failure...however, if that is her fantasy...there is nothing preventing you from making that the reality once in awhile... ;) Glad to hear that you feel it is a 10 though. That makes you a very blessed person in my opinion!
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Lamar Chapman III
Spirit-Filled Believer! Common Sense is Uncommon.ï
10:44 AM on 11/11/2011
Hey Tammy:

Since you and I blog in our own names, we'll you be me friend??? Love, your insight!

LAMAR C. CHAPMAN III
Oak Brook, Illinois
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
02:44 PM on 11/09/2011
"Women might be better served if researchers explored why we aren't absorbing this information in the first place"

I think I know the answer, partially.

Much depends on developmental attitudes toward sex -- her parents and faith community. If parents and children were interviewed separately on sexual attitudes we would see strong correlations. Faith groups have significant influence on these as well.

My wife and I both grew up in homes where sex was a forbidden topic. Our faith communities talked about sex as dirty and offered no help or knowledge even to married couples. Those trying to learn about sex were a step away from pornography. Talking about sex to someone in the church was impossible. As one deacon at my church said, "After a while it just isn't worth trying anymore."

People raised this way are conditioned to ignore sex. Being raised in a "sex-free" produces powerful inhibitions. Very few avenues short of an illicit affair are available to learn about sex, and such often destroys the marriage.

Good sex is healthy and beneficial, a result of knowledge, experience and willingness to explore, play, and trust. But our society restricts learning and makes teaching well-nigh impossible. So we don't learn. We don't know. We can't.

Some chains are too hard to break. Some inhibitions, if removed, will destroy a marriage.

Religion generally says all these inhibitions, rules, prohibitions and denials are good for us. I am not so sure any more.
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Terence Manuel
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
05:16 PM on 11/09/2011
@rgtmath...First, allow me to say this: There is always a better way!!!!

"But our society restricts learning and makes teaching well-nigh impossible­. So we don't learn. We don't know. We can't."

I totally disagree with the above. We have the most open and free society in the history of humankind. As individuals, you and I are free to discover anything and everything our hearts desire. You have convinced yourself that you cannot learn and/or teach about sex. However, this is simply a state of mind that can be changed. You become what you think and believe!

This sex thing with women......Well, sometimes I just don't think anything will ever make women happy. I know it isn't the case. Yet, I truly get exasperated because it seems women are never satisfied. Or if they are it is temporary. Like my famous ice cream analogy: whatever their flavor of the moment is.....that's what makes them happy.

But, if the majority of women are not enjoying sex or it does not feel good to them, then what is the problem? What do women want us men to do about it? How are men to know? What if anything can we men do about?

Yes, religion does impact our views on sexuality. But I think its impact is greatly overstated.
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jf12
When I saw her I marveled greatly.
06:08 PM on 11/09/2011
My extremely fundamentalist Christian religion teaches that sex in marriage is required to be as good as you can make it. That teaching is not the problem.
10:23 AM on 11/11/2011
I love this response. Very well said! I couldn't agree more myself. Having grown up in the church, I am just now at the age of 39 enjoying and exploring my sexuality. I personally feel that organized religion is very damaging to the psyche in so many ways. Ways that I am still trying to overcome decades after leaving the church.
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american-dolt
Divide and Conquer
02:32 PM on 11/09/2011
What sex life?
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harkonnen
Alien life-form studying humans from space.
02:11 PM on 11/09/2011
I think both women and men would enjoy sex more with religion out of the picture.
10:34 AM on 11/11/2011
AMEN!!
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01:44 PM on 11/09/2011
Hmmm....I'm wondering if maybe this has something to do with what appears to be the majority of women downplaying the importance of sex:

Men are just fine with plain old sex. They don't need the added emotional component nearly to the extent that women seem to.

Therefore, when women were asked in this study if sex is important, they allowe4d other issues to come into play when answering the question, thereby skewing the results. When asked, whether sex is important to their health, its likely they immediately claimed "NO its not that important.......I'd rather have the intimacy". In other words, they are bringing in the "other" issue while answering a separate question.

Maybe the question should've been dualfold. 1) is sex important? and 2) is an emotional connection a must in order to enjoy the sex?

Of course, it is double the health benefit if you can have both together!
01:23 PM on 11/09/2011
It seems by many comments here, that having sex is the beginning and the end of a happy and fulfilling life. Also, for me, a fulfilling life includes having a good job, or at this point, having a job. being able to pay bills, having a decent car, food for my famiily. Don't misunderstand me...having an orgasm is absolutey.....ahhhhhh....wonderful! Sex with my partner is wonderful, but there are many other things in life I find equally fulfilling.
10:35 AM on 11/11/2011
Sounds like a very well-rounded life you have...Kudos!! :)
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mcartri
01:22 PM on 11/09/2011
A good workout at the gym is far better for your health than a workout in bed. Whole grain foods and skim milk help, too.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
01:03 PM on 11/09/2011
This survey tells me women have unrealistic expectations. I wonder how miserable they make their partners due to their own dissatisfaction with life?
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emulsifier
I love the whole world, boom-de-ahda, boom-de-ahda
01:39 PM on 11/09/2011
I am not sure ""connecting with my partner" as extremely or very important"" is a unrealistic expectation.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
03:23 PM on 11/09/2011
you'll have to define those phrases before you can judge whether they are unrealistic or not. and then that would depend on your definition of "unrealistic" too.
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Terence Manuel
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
05:34 PM on 11/09/2011
If you are not "connecting with my partner" then why is that person still your partner? I don't get it! I guess I am too business like about this matter.

A man can only give so much just as a woman. So, how much is a man to give to make a woman happy? Everything?

Women MUST begin to focus on their own internal happiness. You have to cease trying to extract happiness from a man. If I know it's a seafood joint, I do go their looking for a blasted steak! So, if you know MOST men are a certain way, largely due to human nature in my opinion, then it IS unrealistic to expect something else.

I approach women like this: I either choose to embrace her or I choose to disengage. No woman on God's earth will ever make me unhappy again. Never again..

But I choose. Because, I have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!
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anoise
My micro bio is too small to fit here....
02:56 PM on 11/09/2011
Unrealistic? I guess if the reality is men are just in it for their own pleasure and don't really give a damn about the woman's feeling on the matter.

I don't think women are being unrealistic at all
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
03:31 PM on 11/09/2011
I don't think it's quite that simple.

Men have lots of problems themselves. Nobody writes much about that. We have a plethora of writing on women's "issues". The problem isn't who is wrong or who is right rather without mutual understanding we risk working at cross purposes.

My experience is some women have a tendency to make martyrs of themselves in their internal narrative. They feel they are being used by so many people in their relationships. Problem is when you are the one giving voluntarily and enabling that feeling you may be more to blame than the people reaping the benefit.

My second ex-wife, for example, was always doing things she thought would make me happy though I did not ask her to do them or expect her to do them. Over time she developed quite a resentment which probably wasn't helped by me telling her to just stop doing the things that were making her so resentful. I didn't need her to do much of anything for me except accept me. That in turn made her feel unimportant to me.

Are you seeing a pattern here? To me it seemed like she was the chief agent of her own unhappiness trying to lay the blame on me though I wasn't willing to play that kind of game with her or anyone for that matter. I like soothing my partner when they are upset, but I am not going to be the psychological nursemaid for another adult.
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DarleenMB
12:18 PM on 11/09/2011
Maybe if one out of three woman hadn't been sexually abused at some point in their lives the survey would have produced different results.

I speak as one who was sexually abused throughout my childhood and adolescence. And I am not alone.
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probo
fear is a waste of my time
12:28 PM on 11/09/2011
You are not alone, the numbers are staggering....fanned...{{{ Hugs }}}
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sophie M
ANTI WAR./animal rescue
12:34 PM on 11/09/2011
no , u r not alone. luckily mine stopped at childhood, but it never left me.
and definitely influenced EVERY aspect of my life. not just sex.
peace sister.
11:58 AM on 11/09/2011
This summer when the temperature was 102, I ws walking my dog and saw a neighbor using a post-hole digger to put up a picket fence.

I said: "Kinda hot day for putting in a fence."

He said: "Happy wife, happy life."

QED.
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Targa3141
11:41 PM on 11/09/2011
An obedient slave is a productive slave.
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mary896
Tea Loving Liberal
11:49 AM on 11/09/2011
One thing I will say about this subject....IT'S COMPLICATED. And personally, I'm sick of all the complaining. Sometimes the man is disappointed, sometimes it's the lady. But we NEED each other so let's just get along as best we can. Unless of course you DON'T need each other, then go away.
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American Subversive
Free markets are beneficial to ruling class only.
11:42 AM on 11/09/2011
Simply put, great sex is a key component to a great, overall relationship. That level of intensity and connection in bed, will translate to a greater likelihood of intensity and connection OUTSIDE of the bed.
11:38 AM on 11/09/2011
Although I didn't read the entire article, I can assume from the comments that everyone has an opinion on this matter and I would like to add my observations as well.

My wife and I were high school sweet hearts and we have been married for 4 years. So out of the 12 years we have known each other I can count on my hand the number of times the sex and/or love making sucked.

The reason is connection . . . you must must must must must must have a connection. If your entering a relationship based on need, greed or feed then good luck to you and your future years as an indentured servant. But if you genuinely love, care, respect, adore, appreciate and lust for your woman . . . or man then things will work out. Holding back is never an option you must be more than yourself, you must become one with your lover and only then can you enjoy the beauty and enjoyment of making love. Quickies tend to be fun also, which are my personal favorite. :)
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ManwithaParachute
Not Seeking Your Approval
12:17 PM on 11/09/2011
"Quickies tend to be fun also, which are my personal favorite. :)"

ROTFLMAO......"connection"? All that connection is great as long as you get it over with.
01:00 PM on 11/09/2011
you missed his point, unsuprisingly
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Terence Manuel
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
05:51 PM on 11/09/2011
It's great to hear that you all have such a health love life and sex life. But, if you have married for only four years, I am going to have deeply discount your view. Sorry, but the evidence and empirical data substantiate my reason.

I do not doubt their is a connection between you and your wife. That's GREAT!!! There is usually a connection with most couples and spouses. A lot of marriages start out with genuine love.

But, I am telling you it is because you are her "flavor of moment." Stick around and give it more time. Let's see what happens over the long haul.

Best wishes.
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ZoeyMO
08:53 PM on 11/10/2011
Yeah, well, in my case it was my ex who had the "flavor of the moment", not me. I was in it for the long haul, but he got the classic mid-life crisis, "how do I prove I'm not getting old" twitches and blew it by jumping into bed with someone else. Don't generalize. It cheapens you. There are plenty of women who can commit long-term. My ex and I were together for 12 years still having sex pretty much every week (except for his business trips to Sweden) and would be still if he hadn't gotten stupid. His loss, I have more frequent and better sex with my boyfriend.