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America Supports Gay Marriage!

Posted: 07/19/11 06:19 PM ET

Today, we found out that Obama no longer thinks the federal government should ban gay marriage. This is not likely a change in the man's personal views -- but it does indicate a huge change in the cultural climate of the U.S.

The flip flop of President Obama on the question of gay marriage has been in the news quite a bit lately. Way back when, in the time before he was a national sensation, Obama told the Windy City Times that he supported full and equal rights for gay couples. Then he ran for president on an anti-gay marriage platform -- repeating again and again that it was a state issue.


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Today, he reverted back to his original position, fully endorsing the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act. Those who knew Obama way back when (and I run into a number of these people in and around Chicago these days) have consistently felt that he personally supported gay marriage. He has many long standing relationships with LGBT people and is generally considered to be a social liberal -- his hopefulness about racial equality in the US did seemed to be in contrast with his position on gay rights.

I always assumed he thought being for equality would lose him votes -- another example of a moment when Obama didn't have the courage to stand up for what was right.

Obama is a pragmatist. That hasn't changed just because he has decided to come out in full support for the repeal of DOMA. He is treading carefully, this time making sure his statements doesn't mandate equal rights, but allow states to still choose whether to grant equality legislatively or abide by state court decisions demanding gay marriage. But the repeal of DOMA would significantly change the way federal systems approach same-sex couples, notably opening the door for same-sex partner sponsorship in immigration. 

Obama's support for the repeal of DOMA, before the bill has even made it through Congress, likely proves that gay rights are no longer a taboo subject for most of the American electorate. Some number cruncher in the Democratic Party has done a rough calculation of dollars lost from LGBT donations and votes lost due to outward support for gay rights and found that our cash outweighs the election costs.

That wasn't the case in 2008.

If this staffer or team of staffers is correct (and we, for the sake of the future of this country, surely hope so), the U.S. has made huge strides on tolerance for LGBT equality -- a tolerance that is one step closer to acceptance and, eventually, protection and promotion.

So, today I am excited about Obama's decision to stand up for equality in America. But I am mostly celebrating America's decision to stand up for equality in America.

 

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Today, we found out that Obama no longer thinks the federal government should ban gay marriage. This is not likely a change in the man's personal views -- but it does indicate a huge change in the cul...
Today, we found out that Obama no longer thinks the federal government should ban gay marriage. This is not likely a change in the man's personal views -- but it does indicate a huge change in the cul...
 
 
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04:18 PM on 07/24/2011
Title must be a misprint; should be "Gay America supports Gay Marriage". There is not a single credible study (scientifically valid with proper sampling) that shows most Americans supporting gay marriage.
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WhatTheHolyHeck
smiting trolls since 1984
03:54 PM on 08/09/2011
Enough with the gay bashing.

Just stop.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
02:41 PM on 07/24/2011
Obama may be thinking that he is going to be a one-term president, and seems compelled to do some of the things that he wold have saved for his second term now.
02:17 PM on 07/22/2011
"But I am mostly celebrating America's decision to stand up for equality in America."

The issue of same-sex marriage has nothing to do with equal rights, which is why forty-four states and the federal government have constitutional amendments and statutes supporting marriage.
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balmora
Liberals = feel good solutions that don't work
04:58 PM on 07/21/2011
If it is a fact that marriage is a union between a man and a women, if the word means that and only that as many people do believe it does, then there is no discrimina­tion against gays. They're as free to enter into a one man and one women union as anybody else. If, on the other hand, marriage means a union between any two consenting adult people who love each other, then I'd be forced to concede that it is a case for discrimina­tion. But before we can settle the matter of whether there is discrimina­tion, we must firmly establish what marriage is and what marriage is not. Gay rights activist want to bypass that and redefine marriage specifical­ly so they can then claim discrimina­tion. This is the crux of the whole debate.
11:48 AM on 07/21/2011
the gay marriage debate has never really been a debate but about accepting what goes on in another bedroom.. The next progressive thinkers will move pass this,and enter into a new age when we can legally marry as many as we could love. This is the future, and this divorce rate will drop, we are created to love without limits it is coming maybe in 2050..
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
06:49 AM on 07/21/2011
We need to have DOMA killed and every state have gay marraige. No voting. No asking for views points. Just do it. And if people dont like it , tough. I can sit here and type all day the long list of things that I dont like that are legal. here are 2. Smoking and drinking. I would LOVE to see these outlawed. Compleatly. Even in your own home. Will it happen? no.
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AnotherTry
Tell me again why we can't be equal?
06:06 AM on 07/21/2011
Do opponents to marriage equality understand that accepting marriage equality doesn't make you gay?
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Michele Kobus
12:50 AM on 07/21/2011
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My generation was bitterly divided over something that should have been so clear and right. The majority believed that what the judge said, that it was God's plan to keep people apart, and that government should discriminate against people in love. But I have lived long enough now to see big changes. The older generation's fears and prejudices have given way, and today's young people realize that if someone loves someone they have a right to marry.
Surrounded as I am now by wonderful children and grandchildren, not a day goes by that I don't think of Richard and our love, our right to marry, and how much it meant to me to have that freedom to marry the person precious to me, even if others thought he was the "wrong kind of person" for me to marry. I believe all Americans, no matter their race, no matter their sex, no matter their sexual orientation, should have that same freedom to marry. Government has no business imposing some people's religious beliefs over others. Especially if it denies people civil rights.


I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard's and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That's what Loving, and loving, are all about."

Mildred Loving,
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David N Taiwan
67 YO American in Taiwan
07:15 AM on 07/21/2011
Mildred and Richard Loving,

Thanks to you both. Not only are your names on THE court case, but that decision continues to be referenced as THE precedent in other major court cases, including the California Prop 8 case last year.
scipio2009
Alan Wolfe's "The Future of Liberalism"
10:01 PM on 07/20/2011
America supports equal civil protections for all couples; to take that reality and try to champion it as something that goes beyond that, simply put, is irresponsible.
08:41 AM on 07/21/2011
I wish what you typed were true, scipio2009. But sadly, America does NOT support equal civil protection­s for ALL couples. Ever hear of the 'Defense' of Marriage Act?
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COPESTIR3
08:23 PM on 07/20/2011
Government needs to not focus on the bedroom. Employment and economic security does more for family life than any of these so called morality measures.
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exxman
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10:01 PM on 07/20/2011
Same sex marriage is a civil rights issue not a morality issue.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." MLK
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07:09 PM on 07/20/2011
I have hated on gays and just about anything else you can think about, but God spoke to me today, he told me to open my dusty bible and read John 13:34. When I did I started crying and then my beautiful wife of 17 years asked me "Why are you crying". I told her "Because something just happened to me and I am not sure what, but I feel different". God told me to love everyone and everything, that love is what matters most. Color, Religion, Origin or even sexual orientation should not be an obstacle of love. I know I sound crazy, but it is the truth.
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Michele Kobus
12:02 AM on 07/21/2011
I am fanning and faving this because I hope you are sincere. I still don't want to be a christian, but that part I agree with.
Jesus did't hate anybody. He chose to hang out with prostitutes and fishermen. No doubt some of them were Gay and/or transexual.
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05:29 AM on 07/21/2011
On July 20th, 2011 at approx 5:30 pm, God changed me. It is like he just flipped a switch in my heart. He told me to love everyone and everything as I love myself. I am Sincere, God loves us all regardless of anything, whether we are Christian or not. Loving eachother is what God and Jesus intended from the start. I am going to love all people for the rest of my life. We all need someone, no creature on earth wants to be alone, Not a fish in the ocean, not a bird in the sky or any human being. I support Love and Peace across the globe
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
02:46 PM on 07/24/2011
God says love the sinner, hate the sin. It's not our job to judge.
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06:01 PM on 07/20/2011
Whether it be a human being, a bird or any other living creature, we all need someone to love and to love us in return. It is nature to love and be loved. People love eachother for many reasons and that is the way God intended. Jesus said" A new commandment I give to you,that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another." John 13:34. As a world we must drop these stones from our hands and just love one another in spite of our differences whatever they may be. love eachother and the global economy will be booming, love eachother and famine shall be a myth, love eachother and planet earth will be saved, love eachother and mankind will be saved.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and retired military combat vet
05:34 PM on 07/20/2011
A person can support same sex marriage, think it is a state issue, and support repealing DOMA. There is nothing contradict­ory in that.

So where exactly did Pres Obama "revert" his position?
05:14 PM on 07/20/2011
This should be left to the states to decide.
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Michele Kobus
12:06 AM on 07/21/2011
No it should not. No other Civil Right had to be fought for State by State. This is no differemt.
Not allowing GLBT Persons to be considered married in every State or by the Federal Government is a violation of the COnstitution.
I pay the same Federal Tax I deserve the full protection of the Federal Government.
08:46 AM on 07/21/2011
Sadly, this is not exactly true (though it SHOULD be). Although Loving v. Virginia was 'settled' by the SCOTUS in 1967, every single State got to decide on its own. For example, it took Alabama until the year 2000 to change their statutes. And even then, fully 40% of the population was against recognizing inter-racial marriages. Thirty-three years is a LOOONG time to have to wait for justice.

The "Defense" of Marriage Act EXEMPTS ITSELF from the Full Faith & Credit Clause of the U.S. Constitution. I keep asking how ANY law that EXEMPTS ITSELF from provisions of the Constitution can be considered 'Constitutional' in the first place, but no one ever answers the question.
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WheelsOnFire
Equality Crusader
12:45 AM on 07/21/2011
That's what the states thought when they enacted laws banning interracial marriage.

Ultimately, they were forced to confront the error of their ways. That came in the form of the quite famous Loving v Virginia Supreme Court case in 1967.

You see, the states that enacted those discriminatory laws contravened the Constitution.

The Supreme Court ruled that Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute violated both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Anti-gay-marriage laws are destined to suffer the same fate as the laws barring interracial marriage.
05:08 PM on 07/20/2011
I agree that Obama back tracked because he thought he'd lose votes, and did not stand up for what is clear he has believed in all along and for what is right. He begins to lose my vote when is cleary not being straight about where he stands. Either way, he loses, so he may as well tell the truth...not the way politics works, unfortunately.....
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