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Think Again: It's All Connected (and That's the Problem)

Posted: 11/12/11 01:53 PM ET

Jon Stewart went to town on fellow New Jersey-born-and-bred, ex-senator/governor/ex-Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine on "The Daily Show" Tuesday night, describing him as "the living, breathing avatar of "the corporate-industrial-government complex." He had a point. Corzine famously argued on behalf of tough financial regulations in office, only to return to the world of finance as the exact kind of high-flying gambler (with other people's money) who needed to be regulated but preferred not to be.

And because rich financiers tend to get what they want from this government, the now-former head of MF Global got what he wanted and proceeded to prove why he had been right in the first place -- not that it matters.

Stewart summed up the situation thusly: "Politician Jon Corzine saw Lehman Brothers as a cautionary tale; financial firm honcho Corzine saw it as a dare."

The Corzine tale demonstrates the impossibly intertwined nature of big money and politics. It can hardly be considered a coincidence that the ex-CEO of Goldman Sachs would become not only a senator and a governor but also the head of the party's senatorial campaign committee, in charge of raising cash.

But the complications go much deeper than just money and politics. The problem is not simply that moneyed interests can buy what they want and make the connections with one another necessary to see that their interests are properly overseen. What makes the impossible tangle of money and politics even more difficult to unravel is the fact that the various interests who hire lobbyists to ensure legislation serves private, rather than public interests, work together to ensure if one lobbyist wins, every lobbyist wins. And if a legislator is indebted to one of them for campaign cash, or access to a private plane, he is indebted to all of them.

A pioneer of this tactic, unsurprisingly, is the conservative activist Grover Norquist. The man Politico aptly terms "America's No. 1 anti-tax activist" has built a "sprawling lobbying empire that leverages his iconic status to influence politicians on issues completely unrelated to those about which he professes to care.

What, for instance, does the State Department's decision regarding the controversial Keystone XL Pipeline have to do with taxes? Why does Norquist lobby on Pentagon spending, get involved in postal issues, or care about payments to the people of Guam for injuries suffered during World War II? Why do lawmakers, according to Politico, "from both parties contend Norquist is the chief obstacle to a $1.2 trillion deficit-reduction deal?" That sure is a great deal of back-scratching, and none of it is good for the smooth legislative operations of a representative democracy. Norquist is particularly powerful with conservatives. But the syndrome is evident everywhere in Washington.

Take a look at the so-called pro-Israel lobby, The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC. Allegedly concerned exclusively with issues related to Israel, AIPAC's lobbying reaches far and wide. During the 1980s it would punish liberal legislators who did not support Ronald Reagan's wars in Central America because those nations' U.S.-supported dictators would, as a favor, vote with Israel in the United Nations. (They would also invite Israeli mlitary advisers to train their forces in counterinsurgency.)

AIPAC lobbied lately to get the United States to, in the words of one former AIPAC staffer, "stick it to Turkey." AIPAC, it will surprise no one, also appears to be behind the demand that the United States punish itself and its interests by withdrawing from the U.N. Education, Scientific, and Cultural Organization as a piece of misguided retaliation for the organization's admittance of Palestine into its membership role.

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Jon Stewart went to town on fellow New Jersey-born-and-bred, ex-senator/governor/ex-Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine on "The Daily Show" Tuesday night, describing him as "the living, breathing avatar of ...
Jon Stewart went to town on fellow New Jersey-born-and-bred, ex-senator/governor/ex-Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine on "The Daily Show" Tuesday night, describing him as "the living, breathing avatar of ...
 
 
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Eppur Si
One of the majority who are not part of the "99%"
07:31 AM on 11/14/2011
Obviously the stray conservative who wanders onto this site does not understand what we utopian progressives are saying, so let me try to make it clear. To us, it is obvious that if government would just pass the “right laws,” everyone would have a job, health care, respect, and a middle class standard of living. The only reason this does not happen, and has never happened in the history of the world, is because an evil corporate oligarchy orders the politicians not to pass the “right laws,” and the stupid, mind-numbed electorate (which is not nearly as smart as we utopian progressives) can’t understand what is happening. The “right laws” are very simple and obvious. One percent of the population must be required to pay for the other 99% to have a job, health care, respect, and a middle class standard of living. That 1% will still be filthy rich, but they refuse to pay their fair share because they enjoy watching poor people suffer (and in their spare time they drown kittens for fun). I don’t really know why they enjoy this, but I know it must be true that they do because I can’t think of any other reason why my utopian progressive vision does not come true, and has never come true, anywhere, any time, in the entire history of the world. The one thing I know for sure is that it can’t be that there is any flaw in my utopian progressive vision.
05:31 AM on 11/14/2011
This article shows exactly why no one should see how laws and sausages are made, why we should value a senator like Bernie Sanders, and why we should lament the loss of a senator like Russ Feingold. The American political system is rotten to the core.
11:15 PM on 11/13/2011
On 60 minutes today it was reveled that Republican Boehner and Democrat Pelosi both made significant income in advance of legislation by dubious stock investments (albeit not construed as insider trading). Boehner took advantage of closing off the single-payer health insurance option and Pelosi purchased VISA stock in advance of credit card regulation.

Although on paper 110th Congress Public Law 81, section 702 should stop such action it seems to only apply to staff and not Congress. Our only recourse may be in elections since they are all above the law, know it, and do bad things anyway (even at the demise of the people over personal financial gain).

The House Ethics Committee does not receive e-mail questions or complaints.

From URL - http://clerk.house.gov/public_disc/PLAW-110publ81.txt
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dpaler4
Corpsman up! They call me Doc!
08:49 PM on 11/13/2011
What a wonderfully written and informative article. I hope that those who read this piece but still believe that politicians are out for our best interest change their mind. I have stated that we must stop lobbyist's and money access to our political servants.
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Soup McGee
Paying attention one wooden nickel at a time.
07:41 PM on 11/13/2011
Dear Sane People-

A good place to start if ya wanna: http://soupsauntieoxymoron.blogspot.com/2011/07/as-california-goes-so-goes-nation.html

Love, Soup

P.S.- http://soupsauntieoxymoron.blogspot.com/2011/10/love-soup.html :-p
ChangeAgent007
Changing the world everyday
04:24 PM on 11/13/2011
Precisely.... And if they are that intertwined, the reverse is true. If one of them is hurt, they all are hurt.... And that is what they are desperate for the public not to know. Because once we understand that truth, we can bring down "the living, breathing avatar of "the corporate-industrial-government complex." And replace it with a pure capitalistic and social service network unfettered by corruption and crony capitalism. Think it can't be done? It can, and it will.
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dpaler4
Corpsman up! They call me Doc!
08:51 PM on 11/13/2011
I do believe that intertwined relationship will not let us peacefully break the relationship.
ChangeAgent007
Changing the world everyday
10:46 AM on 11/14/2011
Oh no. It will not be peaceful. But it is necessary.
11:20 AM on 11/13/2011
Try looking at the flow of Union dollars---if you are clever enough to find them.
One of the political directors of the Carpenters Union was one of the primary architects of
Corzine's run for office. Where do you think they invest the MILLIONS of dollars in membership dues?
Wall Street. How many millions do the labor unions invest in POLITICAL activities?
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dpaler4
Corpsman up! They call me Doc!
08:53 PM on 11/13/2011
Why do you think that this administration has given so much power to the union's? They gave control over the auto industry.
HopeWFaith
We the People
11:39 PM on 11/12/2011
And how about that Pacific Free Trade Agreement - the secrecy of it all.

http://www.citizen.org/documents/TP-FTA-Flyer-11-10.pdf

"Get informed and join the fight:visittradewatch.organd/orcontactPublicCitizen’sGlobal
Trade Watch Field Team at gtwinfo@citizen.org or call us at 202.454.5140. 

Contact your Senators, Representatives, and state legislators: ask them to demand that the Obama administration stop pushing a Trans-Pacific FTA corporate power tool agenda that slams us 99 percenters. 

Write Pres. Obama: tell him that we can’t afford to allow this deal to become another job-killing,
unsafe-import-flooding, democracy-crushing NAFTA-style trade deal."
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
11:36 PM on 11/12/2011
The same 1% fund and control them. duh.
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Chris1962
NYC
03:08 PM on 11/13/2011
The 1% are powerless unless and until a POLITICIAN — y'know, the folks with the power — enter into a quid pro quo. You liberals are targeting the wrong folks. Get rid of your dirty pols. They're the problem, not the lobbyists who have the same right to petition their clients' representatives as you do.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
04:20 PM on 11/13/2011
Yes, we should remove our corrupt politicians.

Vote for the Kucinich, Warren, Grayson CPC progressives in the dem primaries and the Dem including Obama in the general, because the GOP/Tea are Tories out to destroy the republic, democracy, the BEAST, and take away the vote from the citizens and conserve the good old days before the Lock liberals founded the USA of serfs and the super rich 1000 families.
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SonOfUgh
Your micro-bio is empty
04:52 AM on 11/14/2011
Genders,
I wouldn't waste your time arguing with Chris. He is all spin and no top.
Nothing but blind allegiance to GOP talking points and rabid overgeneralisations from that man.
11:13 PM on 11/12/2011
these are examples of bad connections, image what would happen if the connections between us were good!
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
09:46 PM on 11/12/2011
Of course they're connected, time to "Occupy K-Street," let them know we mean it, and force change.
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William50
09:45 PM on 11/12/2011
Are we mad at the system or just mad at ourselves because we continue it at every election?
What is the statement, if you keep doing the same thing over and over again in the very same way and do not like the outcome it is your fault not the program.
So, many of you are upset with Wall Street, the money influence in Washington and no regulations yet at each election you send one of two parties back into make changes and are shocked when the politicians do nothing but talk and fight.
If you want change you have to start at home.
Average American
09:41 PM on 11/12/2011
Mr. Alterman
First of all the entire western political system needs to be changed. I would propose a hybrid system whereby each political region whter it be a country, state, province or municipality be be divided up into districts based on population Each of these districts would elect a representive based on first past the post but campaign financing would be soley from donations from indivual residents of that district only and would have an upper limit. This would prevent these elections from being financed soley by companies, interest groups or lobyists and would enable a certain independance from national parties. The second part is an election of the cabinet. This also would be a winner take all based on total party vote from each of the total district. prior to en election each party would have elected from a party convention its leader, each minister and deputy ministers who would campaign on a national level and financed by individuals from all over the country. when the final tally of votes is added up, these national representives would form the government via a cabinet but the legislative body would include district individuals also. By preventing anyone other than an individual from finacing elections, we maintain some substance of one person one vote and level the playing field more.
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07:44 AM on 11/13/2011
Nice dream, not going to happen.
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MassWG
08:02 PM on 11/12/2011
There IS a pro-OWS, campaign-finance-reform candidate in the race. He takes no PAC money and limits donations to $100, with full disclosure. As such, he is totally ignored by the media and shut out of all debates. Yet he is the only candidate echoing the sentiments of articles like this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpoRE2eBQx0
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
09:16 PM on 11/12/2011
we have had numerous non-money candidates. its wise to note even our current president got there by outspending hillary. how did we ignore it so long? i think too much of the country is in denial that they are part of the problem. every extra gallon of gas, every extra dollar you spend at a big box, we did it to ourselves.
People attack the ows crowd as spoiled kids with cell phones and laptops -- and it never occured to them that everything they have can fit in a backpack. when people have nothing they have nothing to lose. we fear losing the roof over our heads -- they don't have that fear.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
09:47 PM on 11/12/2011
Wny isn't Buddy Roemer included in the 500 Republican debates? What are they afraid of?
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MassWG
11:01 AM on 11/13/2011
Maybe they are afraid that if working people find out he takes no corporate money that he might actually get votes?
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
06:25 PM on 11/12/2011
Campaign finance, as practiced in the United States today, is nothing more (and nothing less) than State Sanctioned, legalized bribery.

Why should any of us be surprised by the kind of legislators we get under such a corrupt, and corrupting system? Personally I don't believe an honest individual can be elected under our current system.

Get the money out of politics, force politicians to get their jobs the old fashioned way..........earn it.

Make them run on their records, and the laws they make to benefit the majority of the American people..............instead of the few wealthy, powerful, privileged, super rich individuals, that finance their multimillion dollar campaigns.