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Think Again: Conservatives Prefer Reagan Fantasies to Reality (And So Did Reagan)

Posted: 01/05/12 06:55 PM ET

A bizarre incident took place during the 60 Minutes interview with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) on New Year's Day: When Leslie Stahl asked Rep. Cantor whether he would be willing to compromise with President Barack Obama to improve the legislative performance of the current Congress, Rep. Cantor responded: "Compromising principles, you don't want to ask anybody to do that. That's who they are as their core being."

When Stahl replied that President Ronald Reagan, Rep. Cantor's "idol," had compromised, Rep. Cantor stuck to his guns, replying, "He never compromised his principles."

Stahl, at the ready, answered, "Well, he raised taxes and it was one of his principles not to raise taxes."

Rep. Cantor, slightly flummoxed, came back with "Well, he -- he also cut taxes."

And here things got interesting.

Rep. Cantor's press secretary, Brad Dayspring, began yelling from off screen, "That's not true. And I don't want to let that stand."

Stahl, in a taped voice-over, later added in the mildest language imaginable, and without any personal aspersions cast -- "There seemed to be some difficulty accepting the fact that even though Ronald Reagan cut taxes, he also pushed through several tax increases, including one in 1982 during a recession."

President Reagan's voice was then heard to say, "Make no mistake about it, this whole package is a compromise," followed by Rep. Cantor, doubling down, "We as Republicans are not going to support tax increases."

The interview has generated a great deal of attention in the blogosphere. ThinkProgress jumped on it immediately, noting that President Reagan did not "compromise" just this once, but actually increased taxes "in seven of his eight years in office, including one stretch of four tax increases in just two years."

The site quoted the Nobel laureate economist Paul Krugman, noting that "no peacetime president has raised taxes so much on so many people."

The Washington Monthly's Steve Benen pitched in with his observation that the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982, which was Reagan's biggest tax hike, is today "generally considered the largest tax increase -- as a percentage of the economy -- in modern American history."

Moreover, says Benen, "between 1982 and 1984, Reagan raised taxes four times, and as Bruce Bartlett has explained more than once, Reagan raised taxes 12 times during his eight years in office."

Benen believes that President Reagan's legacy makes contemporary conservatives "look ridiculous."

On MSNBC's The Ed Show, Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein took a stab at explaining why this must be the case, noting that the grand poobah behind the "Reagan Legacy Project," and so much right-wing political thinking and organizing today, is Grover Norquist, who "has a vested interest in promoting the myth of 'Saint Ronnie the Tax Slayer' to justify his 'no new taxes ever' ideology."

This is true, but it misses what is really strangest about this incident.

It is actually unheard of for a press secretary to attempt anything like Dayspring's interruption, especially in so high profile a forum as 60 Minutes and with a boss in as influential a position as Rep. Cantor. (It is especially crazy to do so in one in which the editing process allows the correspondent to have the last word.) To do so with a bald (and easily demonstrable) falsehood would be under almost any imaginable circumstances a firing offense, as it makes both men, politician and aide alike, appear uninformed, incompetent, and generally out to lunch.

Rep. Cantor's office did attempt to "clarify" Mr. Dayspring's outburst, insisting that it "referred to the cumulative effect of President Reagan's various tax increases and cuts, when added together."

Again, this is not the point. President Obama has lowered taxes more than he has raised them, and they are today lower than they were in President Reagan's time. But you don't hear conservatives crowing about that.

No, the real story here is the vehemence of the conservative movement's commitment to ignoring all forms of evidence that it finds inconsistent with its ideological preconceptions, regardless of circumstances or even consequences.

Ironically, tendency to ignore inconvenient facts and unwelcome evidence is actually President Reagan's true legacy, as I noted in The Nation back in 2000, before the current right-wing mania for President Reagan gained its full force.

This post originally appeared on americanprogress.org.

 

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A bizarre incident took place during the 60 Minutes interview with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) on New Year's Day: When Leslie Stahl asked Rep. Cantor whether he would be willing to compro...
A bizarre incident took place during the 60 Minutes interview with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) on New Year's Day: When Leslie Stahl asked Rep. Cantor whether he would be willing to compro...
 
 
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Michael Rappaport
tired of the con game called "free markets."
12:19 PM on 01/10/2012
The only time in my life that I ever called in to a talk radio show, I ran into Reagan Worship Syndrome. It was 1985, and Nancy Reagan had decided to reject the $50,000 allotted to remodel the White House (because it wasn't enough). She asked for donations, and Ronnie's rich friends donated $500,000.

The show's host saw this as a wonderful example of the free market system because it saved taxpayers $50,000. I pointed out that these were tax deductible donations and most of the people donating were in at least a 50 percent tax bracket. Actually, it cost the government $250,000 in tax revenues.

The host's response? "That's not very gracious of you to point that out."

With Ronald Reagan, it's definitely a case of "print the legend."
MThomasNC
Retired, Sassy, Senior Citizen
03:49 PM on 01/09/2012
This is a good project for progressive - destroy the Reagan mythical legend, all the documents and video tapes and many honest people that worked in Reagan admin are still out there.

Also, this gets to the soul of these right wing demigods who now used Reagan as a god like president.
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happyblackman
Gotta have more cowbell baby!
07:41 PM on 01/08/2012
The myth of Ronald Reagan is funny. You will never find a contemporary right winger to even admit that he raised taxes once, let alone twelve times. His trickle down, or as the first Bush called it, "voodoo" economic theory has never worked. Republicans now have lionized him so much, that I once heard someone joke on CNN that he was another reincarnation of Jesus!

The cold hard facts totally destroy the myth of Reagan. In between the "read my lips" and "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall" speeches, he did not do that much governing, and has no memorable legislation.
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elamatt
Ever the optimistic realist
06:04 PM on 01/08/2012
I've always considered Reagan less than honest on many things, but he certainly "acted" presidential. Sadly, Cantor isn't even "pretending" to act honestly.
01:17 PM on 01/07/2012
The good thing about Eric Alterman is that besides whining about the MSM like a lot of people here, he also advocates for us starting our own alternatives: non-profits, blogs, alternative media, collectives, etc. which sometimes seems like the only hope for the future.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/05/ta052109.html
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robert horwitz
12:44 PM on 01/07/2012
Ronald Reagan was a second rate actor who got his greatest staring roll as President of the United States. His most endearing qualities were he always knew where his mark was and he never missed it and he could tell a good story. If electing him once wasn't bad enough the American People renewed his contract and gave him a sequel. Now he is nothing more than a popular old western dime store novel who has become the hero to so many folks who have embellished his eight years of his failed leadership to the status of deification.
06:18 PM on 01/07/2012
Well put, sir.
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robert horwitz
06:50 PM on 01/07/2012
Thanks Bob
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drumz
Those little red panties they pass the test
12:41 PM on 01/08/2012
Agreed.
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Akshay Singh
Go To Sleep
03:54 AM on 01/07/2012
They live in a bubble to support their thievery. Bill Maher summed it up aptly.
02:34 AM on 01/07/2012
To sum up Reagan, I just go for his famous, "I don't recall." when asked to respond to
his involvement in the Iran-Contra quagmire. To me, this says it all. Yeah, right, "The Great Communicator!" Hhhohohohohhahahaha / LOL!!!!
02:29 AM on 01/07/2012
Yep, "I don't recall." My favorite and very illuminating characterization of the "Great Communicator!"
LOL, my God, LOL!!!!
04:07 PM on 01/07/2012
my favorite was always " I did not have sexual relations with that women Monica Lawenski" or maybe " It all depends on what the defination if is is"
04:39 PM on 01/07/2012
Gotta admit, that Reagan and Clinton were "great" politicians, taskmasters at their craft. But all in all, BS is BS, and there is no question of what is, is and how it IS defined, here!
02:27 PM on 01/08/2012
Very true - however one was a marital lie and the other one affected our national defense. Both lies, but wildly different repercussions to our country.

It does show the blatant dumbing-down of our collective intellect as a country as to which of these two events received the most scrutiny and coverage...
11:47 PM on 01/06/2012
That press secretary, and possibly Cantor, actually believes the mythology he was defending.

Republicans have been spewing the same lies for so long with impunity that their lies have become truth. For once though, and just this once from my observation, they got pushback from the Press and didn't know how to act - thus the outburst.

It begs the question though about the perpetuation of these myths; who is more incurious and indolent, the Republican believers or the Press?
01:18 PM on 01/07/2012
Mythology is by its nature believed often times.
05:15 PM on 01/07/2012
I could have, and maybe should have, used the word "meme" which also is, by it's nature believed often times.
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ClevelandLib
I stand with Planned Parenthood
12:31 PM on 01/08/2012
Prior to Reagan, the only real popular Republican president since Lincoln was Eisenhower, who would be drummed out of the party today as a liberal.

Reagan was popular at the time, it can't be denied. He appealed to those foolish 'angry white male' working class Democrats - the ones uncomfortable with civil rights for minorities and women; willing to vote against their best interests out of xenophobia...blaming women and minorities for their pain that truthfully union busting, deregulation and massive deficits created.

Those Reagan Democrats still exist today, that's why his myth still holds such power.

Of course Republicans know the truth about Reagan, they're never going to tell anyone they do, he was the best they could come up with in the last 60 years.
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offred
A biocitizen is 3/5 of a corporate citizen
09:36 PM on 01/06/2012
Well done, Ms. Stahl.

Would that other journalists today would put accuracy over access. You just don't see journalists confronting politicians about false talking points.
01:18 PM on 01/07/2012
Eric has it about right.
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offred
A biocitizen is 3/5 of a corporate citizen
09:32 PM on 01/06/2012
As usual, well said, Mr. Alterman.
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KayWrites
Freedom requires truth
05:48 PM on 01/06/2012
Hey, here's a thought. A SuperPac on the left should make a commercial about this. And every time Republicans - candidates too - talk about their "principle" of not raising taxes, it should air. Thus serving the dual purpose of making their position laughable, and busting the myth of the god-like Reagan.
05:02 PM on 01/06/2012
Shortly after being elected governor of California, Reagan signed into law the then-largest proportional tax increase in US history (equal to one-third of the entire California budget). While he cut taxes in the first year of his presidency, he raised taxes every succeeding year (although the tax raises were all on middle and lower income people).
01:53 PM on 01/08/2012
Sometimes people miss the larger point, and Eric does too. But over all, it has been something he has hammered away at. At some point there isn't much anyone can do. The alternative are the alternatives. Support blogs. Support the liberal non-profits. Support alternative media. Support the independents-- so there is more choice and we are not dependent so much on the MSM.

http://www.ojr.org/ojr/workplace/1017968939.php
itolduso
lateral thinker
03:15 PM on 01/06/2012
uninformed, incompetent, and out to lunch are considered virtues in this new Republican Party. A leading candidate for the Republican nomination to be President of the United States has publically stated as FACT that the Founders never intended the Courts to be as important as the Congress and the President based on the numerical order of the Articles- and I quote- "If they meant them to be more important, they wouldn't have placed them third." - Rick Santorum **** Mr. Santorum's campaign boasts of over $2 million dollars in contributions the past few days. That's AFTER he demonstrated this most appalling, simplistic, and infantile level of understanding of our Constitution.
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leftparadise
Go ahead with your own life, leave me alone.
11:09 PM on 01/08/2012
simplistic and infantile are the new normal for the republican party