Eric Boehlert

Eric Boehlert

Posted: August 13, 2008 08:14 AM

Fox News Suffers Another Debate Snub; Bloggers Take A Bow

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Fox News has been taken down several notches, and the demotions can be traced back to the blogger-led debate boycott from 2007 and the repercussions it set off.

I have no definitive proof that the blue-ribbon Commission on Presidential Debates, which organizes the televised forums, bypassed Fox News in terms of moderators because of the formal boycott that the netroots launched last year or the noisy questions it raised about Fox News' professionalism. But the last thing the commission would want this year is to spark a large, and raucous, debate over the nature of Fox News and whether it was appropriate to have one of Rupert Murdoch's personalities host a presidential debate.

And trust me, formal petitions and online protests would be flying around the Internet right now if the commission had tapped a Fox News anchor to pose the presidential hopeful questions in September or October.

Read the full Media Matters column here.

Fox News has been taken down several notches, and the demotions can be traced back to the blogger-led debate boycott from 2007 and the repercussions it set off. I have no definitive proof that the bl...
Fox News has been taken down several notches, and the demotions can be traced back to the blogger-led debate boycott from 2007 and the repercussions it set off. I have no definitive proof that the bl...
 
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- DerekRC I'm a Fan of DerekRC 6 fans permalink

Democrats simply hate balance. Too bad. The results are a deteriorating perception from the electorate who finds overwhelming media bias (NBC, MSNBC) towards the left.

Fox News keeps on ticking because it's panels are made up of liberal and conservative members. Is NBC, MSNBC simple incapable of rational discussion.

It seems so.

Continue on with your tirades against Fox, and keep watching independents running towards McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 09/10/2008
- Joseph A. Palermo - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Joseph A. Palermo 406 fans permalink

No Democrat should agree to even appear on Fox News -- let alone hold a debate on that GOP propaganda channel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 08/18/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 73 fans permalink
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I agree 100%. But what does it say about CNN that, more and more, I've been turning them off and--when there's no other news program--turning to FOX, and finding it...(not good, of course) but...bett­er?

FOX at its daily worst is still worse than CNN (even the bombastic right-winger, Lou Dobbs). But CNN is catching up in the right-wing propaganda department.

Scary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 08/20/2008
- Janco54 I'm a Fan of Janco54 2 fans permalink

Fox "News" is nothing but an arm of the Republican party. Why anyone would even think to ask one of their "anchors" to participate in something as important as the debates is beyond me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 08/15/2008
- drblack I'm a Fan of drblack 19 fans permalink

Fox "News" has argued in court that they have no obligation to tell the truth,present facts or refrain from propaganda.
Fox "News" itself has argued that they are liars so why should we disagree? They are.
Fox "News" has no business being involved in serious matters. Neither does anyone who watches it and takes it seriously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 08/15/2008

Fox is NOT a news station. Regarding general news, they only sensationalize tabloid stuff, and trivialize important things, and add beautiful skimpy outfitted women to their staff to make people watch. Not to actually inform people of important true news.
As for political coverage or National issues, they are NOT conservative, they are Republican PARTY Puppets, biased to the end, and constantly repeat false, misleading, and agenda pursuing talking points directly from the GOP leadership. They even go so far as to repeatedly post on their video screens completely false text that always benefits the GOP and implies incorrect but nasty things about the Dems.

Its truly a horrible turn for the nature of journalism in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 08/14/2008
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"...they are...bias­ed to the end, and constantly repeat false, misleading, and agenda pursuing talking points directly from the GOP leadership­..."

[1] Examples of FOX News's biased reporting:

http://www.newshounds.us/
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067

"...repeat­edly post...com­pletely false text that always benefits the GOP and implies incorrect but nasty things about the Dems."

[2] Examples of FOX News's consistent "False Text" chyrons:

07/2007 - FOX News chyron labels Arlen Specter a Democrat.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/24/fox-news-labels-arlen-specter-a-democrat/

11/2006 - FOX News chyron labels Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN) as a DEMOCRAT.
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/11/14/fox_misidentifies_lamar_alexander_as_democrat.php

FOX News chyron identified disgraced Republican Rep. Mark Foley of Florida as "D" -- a "mistake" never acknowledged / corrected by Fox News.
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/10/03/fox_uses_subliminal_ploy_on_foley_head_shot.php

02/2008 - FOX News chyron labels John McCain a Democrat.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/07/fox-news-labels-john-mccain-a-democrat/

In REPUBLICAN Senator Larry Craig’s scandal, instead of assigning him to the bad, naughty, nasty Democratic party, FOX chose to completely leave out his political affiliation altogether.

I think their "info-tainment" style of reporting (flashy sets; spiffy graphics), and hot babes (umm, I mean news correspondents) appeals to the masses. The old "bread and circuses" and "dazzle 'em with bullsh*t" mentality (???).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 08/14/2008
- sammyscout I'm a Fan of sammyscout 13 fans permalink
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Can't wait till someone higher (not God, not that high up) realixes that like WWF is actually WWE, Faux Noise is actually Foreign Owned Xenophobic Propoganda

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/14/2008
- nowRnever I'm a Fan of nowRnever 2 fans permalink

As my uncle always said, "Aint PAYBACK a mutha?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 08/14/2008
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Seems only appropriate not to lower Presidential debate standards to tabloid journalism, ie FoxNoise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 08/14/2008
- Triangle1 I'm a Fan of Triangle1 4 fans permalink
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I say let FoxNews be involved. If liberals are really right about everything (pardon the pun), Fox will end up looking idiotic and liberal causes will prevail. You have to also keep in mind more people watch Fox than CNN or MSNBC. Is there a problem with having a bigger audience? You have to be able to take an argument outside of your own comfort zone. Nothing is worse than being surrounded by a bunch of Yes Men. http://mespace.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 08/13/2008
- AnnieinOR I'm a Fan of AnnieinOR 24 fans permalink

the whole point of a debate is to be objective moderators - not freaks with their own agendas like your buddies screed han ittie and ohreally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 08/14/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 225 fans permalink
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It's not about finding someone who agrees with you, obviously it's about finding a debate host who can at least present questions that are not weighted toward showing one candidate in a more favorable light than the other. That is impossible with FOX. The configuration of questions can be skewed to make anyone look like a fool. It's better to bypass partisanship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 08/14/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 225 fans permalink
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No network should be involved that has a proven close relationship with any particular party, and F O X is a mouthpiece for the Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 08/14/2008
- yhgtup I'm a Fan of yhgtup 12 fans permalink

We already had a right winger conducting a debate during the primaries. His name is Charles Gibson from ABC. Look what happened there. His "partner in crime", also from ABC, was biased for one of the candidates (Hillary Clinton), look what happened there. We need journalist with no "conceived notions". We should not have a clue, what their political choices are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 08/14/2008

Not yes men, but objective, unbiased facilitators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 08/14/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

Fox's right-wing propaganda network should never be called news unless the word "news " is in quotations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 08/13/2008
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I love the open-mindedness and love of free expression of the left. LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 08/13/2008

Fox News has a long history of lying and distorting news stories to serve a conservative agenda at the exclusion of real news-gathering and investigative journalism. Should I mention the countless stories of the Clinton death-list (like how those kids who were hit by a train were actually stabbed before-hand in some sort of conspiracy plot to get rid of them, just as a small example.)

This isn't about free-expression. Defamation (slander and libel) are not protected speech.

I'd more than welcome a conservative cable news station that didn't promote lies, fabrications, and distortions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 08/14/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 225 fans permalink
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Debates are supposed to be moderated in a "fair and balanced" way. Do you want the DNC to moderate one of the debates? No? Then no FOX.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 08/14/2008

It looks like Fox is getting a well deserved PAYBACK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 08/13/2008
- cmdrgmh I'm a Fan of cmdrgmh 3 fans permalink

Georgia started it, let russia finish it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 08/13/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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couldn't happen to a more deserving Gang!

I'm demanding a Comedy Central debate moderated by Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and Lewis Black

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 08/13/2008
- robotfog I'm a Fan of robotfog 23 fans permalink
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I don't see why the debates aren't moderated by University people who understand the value of a good debate. There shouldn't be any journalist­s/personal­ities involved. Maybe the moderators could be Business people or something different. Anything but journalists. Even lawyers might be good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 08/13/2008

yes, robotfog, exactly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 08/14/2008
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