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Eric Boehlert

Eric Boehlert

Posted: August 24, 2010 10:25 AM

While the Beltway press continues to flood the zone with an onslaught of often dubious Islamic center coverage and commentary, a curious disconnect has emerged: Nobody cares about the story.

OK, "nobody" is an exaggeration. But there's growing evidence that voters, news consumers, and even New Yorkers aren't nearly as interested in the story as the press -- or conservative partisans --pretend we are. Plus, we have conclusive polling evidence that for a vast majority of Americans, the mosque story won't have any effect on how they vote in November. None.

It's true that polling indicates that Americans oppose the construction of the Islamic center near Ground Zero. But there's no indication that voters or news consumers care about the story. And honestly, why should they? Why would a local development issue located hundreds, if not thousands, of miles away weigh in the minds of voters for the November elections?

Is the Islamic center debate interesting, and does it carry with it some deeper political and cultural ramifications? Sure. And should it be covered? Absolutely. But a three-week running, front-page story? No way.

But shhh -- don't tell reporters, producers, and pundits. They're too busy co-sponsoring a right-wing production, burying us in an avalanche of mosque coverage and announcing that it's the "the issue that is trumping all right now."

How does the press know? Because the press says so. And you know the drill: When the right-wing freaks out over a story, the press instinctively asks how high they should jump. (Why else did the press play up the Michelle Obama vacation nonstory?) The dirty little secret is that the Beltway press loves to "cover" stories where very little journalism is required, and (surprise!) the GOP Noise Machine specializes in manufacturing them.

Read the full Media Matters column, here.

 
 
 

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04:46 PM on 08/26/2010
Mr. Boelert's comments that "there's no indication that voters or news consumers care about the story" is flatly contradicted by the polls that show many Americans have an opinion on the issue. The Rasmussen poll shows that an astounding 85% of voters are following the story, and 58% are following it closely.
04:33 PM on 08/26/2010
On August 23, Rasmussen Reports released a national telephone poll saying 85% of US voters were following news stories about the mosque. That was a 34-point increase from a Rasmussen poll a month earlier. The poll reported 58% of voters stated they were following the story closely, a 22-point jump from the earlier poll. Rasmussen stated, "A lot more voters are paying attention to the plans to build a mosque near the Ground Zero site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York City, and they don’t like the idea." In the more recent poll, Rasmussen found 62% were against the mosque, as opposed to 54% in the poll from mid-July. Rasmussen did not say why the sudden interest, but the President's decision to term the issue as a constitutional one, then saying he was not addressing the wisdom of building the center near ground zero probably had a lot to do with raising interest. The press release on the poll has an interesting discussion about what Rasmussen states is a great divergence on the issue between "the political class" and "mainstream Americans." See --
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2010/67_of_political_class_say_u_s_heading_in_right_direction_84_of_mainstream_disagrees
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marylandtravelinman
09:27 AM on 08/26/2010
There are two reasons this is all over the media, Karl Rove and it is August.
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Talossa
Not all liberals are silly.
09:19 AM on 08/25/2010
> According to a Time poll, 74 percent of Americans say the mosque issue won't have any impact on how they vote in November. That’s right, 74 percent.

While the premise of the story in generally valid, the line quoted above is a classic misuse of statistical data. In a country where elections are usually decided by margins of less than five percent, whatever percentage *do* say the mosque will affect their vote (and the article doesn't specify that number; it may be as high as 26% depending on whether or not a 'none of the above' answer was allowed) may indeed be significant. From the information provided, we do not know.
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Imzadi
Proud Progressive for decades
07:43 AM on 08/25/2010
Thank you!!

Please send a copy to every news outlet. This craziness needs to cease.
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Muslimhumanist
Liberty for the wolves is death for the lambs
05:27 PM on 08/24/2010
Just because it keeps coming up there is Shinto shrine near Pearl Harbor.

http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1437

Peace to all.....
04:16 PM on 08/24/2010
I'm afraid I don't trust the media's reporting of polls at all. The media reports them as the voice of God, unpollutable and unchallengeable. They are anything but.

Polls are performed privately, and contracted privately. And all too often (as now) the "results" are highly convenient for those who contract them. Who did the contracting and the calling, for the "poll" that purports to show that 68% would have the Cultural Center move from where it is currently planned to go? Who was on their call list? Did they include cell phones, or just antique land-lines?

As you can see, polling are an abuse of information waiting to happen. If you don't know the details about a poll, you can be pretty sure that those details have been purposely obscured -- and what does that tell you?

I won't believe any poll results unless I know these things, and all I've heard so far is about a purely generic, non-specific, "poll." Show me the numbers, if you want me to get worked up about something.
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Truth In Voting
Paranoid Rightwing Catchphrase Bingo!!
02:28 AM on 08/25/2010
Yeah, plus, polls' random samples consist of landline numbers. I haven't had a landline since I graduated high school and none of my friends have one either. So the 18-24ish crowd is sampled out right there.

There's a few trustworthy polls that try to take a representative as possible sample, who publish all the poll data so there's complete transparency. But then, there's some transparent pollsters that skew questions towards a political viewpoint, so even though you can see the exact demographics of people polled, you don't know if there was a liberal or conservative slant.

Most of the major news networks are pretty accurate, but they're also completely underwhelming and really don't tell you anything you don't already know (just over half of Americans support the right to get married for gays and lesbians; support has been steadily trending upward for a decade - well, duh).

Check out fivethirtyeight.com (widely-published national pollster with ALL his data posted too) and publicpolicypolling.com, and they're pretty accurate.
03:08 PM on 08/24/2010
My guess is that the Beltway press REALLY wants to get more involved in the "Our president is a Muslim" nonsense (see Lawrence O'Donnell covering for Keith Olbermann last night, especially his last segment) but too many editors want to stay out of it. This is proxy. Especially when we forget how many Muslims died in the towers, which nobody seems to want to mention either.

Now, what about the Greek Orthodox church even closer to Ground Zero?
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hstdem
In search of the 4th Estate
03:52 PM on 08/24/2010
What about it?
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hstdem
In search of the 4th Estate
03:56 PM on 08/24/2010
Read this and then come back and talk about the church:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/nyregion/19church.html
02:28 PM on 08/24/2010
The is screaming "racist, racist, racist!" But the American public knows where they stand, knows their principled position and could care less that Christianne Amanpour, Brian Williams, Keith Olbermann, and and Anderson Cooper are calling them intolerant. They know politics when they see it.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
04:54 PM on 08/25/2010
LOL. AH
07:31 PM on 08/25/2010
Well it's a good thing you didn't include FOX News because the last thing they are is "POLITICAL
Thanks for standing up for the principaled positions of "Real Americans".
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Blak
Yes..I know my Micro-bio is empty.
01:54 PM on 08/24/2010
Gone are the days when journalists would research and track down a story using pen/paper/telephone/actual human resource/library/historical records . They just wake up every morning and turn on faux.
01:19 PM on 08/24/2010
So in Sorosland this is a non-issue.

I suggest you get out more.
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Blak
Yes..I know my Micro-bio is empty.
01:51 PM on 08/24/2010
Only an issue in Murdochland where they make up stories and then report on the stories that they just made up.
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Enigma2008
Still 99% @BlueGoatNews
06:33 PM on 08/24/2010
Or Koch-land. You can't throw Soros without having to explain the Koch brothers and their control of our industry and media. So lets just call a truce on Soros as a valid argument.
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FirstGame72
The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
12:49 PM on 08/24/2010
The main stream media work for the rich and powerful military/industrial complex and the GOP of course. What the general public thinks or cares about is no concern at all to the MSM on any level.
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Muslimhumanist
Liberty for the wolves is death for the lambs
12:20 PM on 08/24/2010
For Muslim Americans watching Pamela Geller, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and Fox News whip up Islamophobia as a campaign issue is a big deal. Nativism is always ugly and when it is directed at you and your family and your community it is particularly disturbing. I agree on this level--the real story isn't the cultural center, it is the network of people who turned it into the "Ground Zero Mosque" to build up hatred against Muslims. and the media is only beginning to tell that crucially important story.
12:54 PM on 08/24/2010
Well said! There's always been hatred, but this country is founded on the principles of freedom and tolerance. The "real Americans" are the ones who respect and honor those high principles. Religious intolerance isn't any more attractive on Christians than it is on Muslims or Jews. Or terrorists or Nazis or Klansman or White Supremicists.. Hatred is hatred. Ugly hearted, mean and small. All the flag or cross draping in the world can't cover that.
01:22 PM on 08/24/2010
Nice way of sidestepping the insensitivity show by the proponents of the mosque in selecting a location, and a fine job of pretending it's just the right that feels it's inappropriate. You score a 100 on the disingenuousmeter.
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Muslimhumanist
Liberty for the wolves is death for the lambs
02:04 PM on 08/24/2010
First, they picked a location where their community lived and they did reach out to people.They especially worked with local Jewish and Christian groups. This only exploded when Pamela Geller and others planted the meme that this was a triumphalist "Ground Zero Mosque." People got angry because they imagined domes, minarets, calls to prayer, bearded men and burqa-clad women. Geller and others wanted people to imagine that--the presence of "the other" at "our" Ground Zero, which you can't even see from the Burlington Coat Factory. Secondly, you are right--prejudice against Muslims, like anti-Semitism and racism, is neither exclusively Republican or Democrat or Left or Right. Stalin and Mao--way "left" of anything in this discourse-- both committed acts of horrible ethnic intolerance. But to be fair most of the Democratic elites who want to move the center are doing so to placate the polls, it was Gingrich, Palin and Fox News who poured oil on the fire with bogus stories about "triumphalist mosques" and Cordoba as a sign of Muslim dominion. (Moses Maimonides worked in Cordoba, for heaven's sake, that is why they chose the name.)

How is all this disingenuous?

Peace/Salaams/Shaloom
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Ohio5470
03:41 PM on 08/24/2010
It is the right that is fueling this so called controversy and setting the tone for the argument. Feelings are feelings and do not trump the constitution, regardless of how widespread they are. And those who are most responsible for this controversy are bigoted and as you say 100 % disengenuous.
11:43 AM on 08/24/2010
I'm sorry but when you have over 60 % of the country expressing support for muslim-bashing no matter how you try to ignore it or cover it up this is a very important statement about the lying hypocriscy of the majority that claim they believe in religious freedom.
01:00 PM on 08/24/2010
Sixty-percent of this country are expressing support for muslim-bashing?!? It's statements like that that are incendiary, and sound pretty mindless to me. Do you have an actual legitimate source for this outlandish claim?

(I personally don't know a single supporter of Muslim-bashing.!)
01:25 PM on 08/24/2010
Countess's comment is what passes for "reason" here. Have objections to the building of a mosque near the WTC by a man who says America has "blood on its hands" and was an "accomplice to murder" about 9/11. A man who refuses to call Hamas a terrorist organization and who reserves the right to raise money for his mosque in Iran, among other locations? Then you must support "Muslim bashing".
02:31 PM on 08/24/2010
You don't personally know a single supporter of Muslim-bashing because very very very few Americans support Muslim Bashing. However, some in the MSM and on the left are equating the principled concern and offense at a Mosque being built so near 9/11 as being "Muslim Bashing" which it is not.
07:48 AM on 08/25/2010
I guess it comes down to how much you put stock into polls. Apparently, you put a lot of stock into them.
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peterg76
Freelance medical transcriptionist
11:35 AM on 08/24/2010
It's a story based on fantasy and misinformation, so there's a lot more appeal for lazy journalists.