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This Is My Brain on Science

Posted: 02/24/2012 11:47 pm

Hi! I'm Eric Korpela. You may know me from such blog posts as "Ewoks live under my deck" and "How Spock and Sylar are related." As part of my continuing series on what the heck scientists do, I'd like to talk about brains. You may ask, "What is it like in a scientist's brain?" Well, it's dark, it's moist, and it's as warm as Daytona in July.* Just like it is in yours.

The real answer is that I can't really tell you what's going on inside anyone's head but mine. For example, I look at my wife and think, "Why is she carrying all the groceries? And how can I make her do that again next time?" I really have no clue. That's because I've only been me.

The way my brain works now is pretty different from the way it worked when I was starting college, so I'm pretty sure that most of what I do is learned behavior. If so, maybe this scientist's brain will tell us something. Let's start with my thought processes for an everyday task like seeing an article on The Huffington Post -- for example, this one: "Venus May Be Slowing Down, New ESA Data Suggests."

Phase 1: WTF?

That makes absolutely no freaking sense! How can Venus be slowing down? It's in a periodic orbit, and we'd notice changes in the orbit without having to send a spacecraft there.

You may think that reaction is a little extreme, and maybe it is. Scientists have different expectations from a headline than editors do. A scientist might think a headline should provide enough information that you can decide whether you want to read an article. An editor knows the headline is there to make you want to read the article by not providing enough information.

Oh, its rotation is slowing... Maybe that could happen.

Phase 2: Skepticism

A 6-and-a-half-minute rotation period change... Are they sure their clock isn't just wrong? What would they have for a clock on a Venus orbiter? I'd use two temperature-controlled clocks with sync with a distance-adjusted time stream from Earth every 24 hours. That would definitely be better than 6.5 minutes, and the people who built the clocks for this orbiter thought about it for more than 30 seconds. I wonder how much they make? Do I remember this same issue happening with Magellan?

Skepticism is a very important phase. Without it a budding scientist could end up thinking that the guy in the next dorm room developed an amazing artificial intelligence program and still be embarrassed 26 years later about falling for that ruse.

Phase X: Getting Sidetracked

In a holographic universe, is information really conserved, or can the universe lie to us if there's no way we can check its answers?

Phase 3: Calculating

You can't have the rotation of Venus slowing without the rotational energy going somewhere. Where could it go? The obvious places are Mercury, the Earth, and the Moon. You'd need a gravitational torque on Venus. Is it really that lopsided? (That's what she said.) Note to self: check the Magellan gravity maps.

OK, Venus and Earth are about the same mass, and this change is small compared to the rotational energy of either, so the change in angular velocity would be inversely proportional to the angular velocity of Earth. That's a 2-millisecond change in the length of a day. Didn't happen.

Orbital energy. The earth's orbital kinetic energy is about 10,000 times its rotational energy, and that change in Venus's rotational energy was 1 billionth of that. The velocity change required would be unnoticeable, so there's probably some interaction due to the near resonance between Venus' rotation and Earth's orbit.

Could Venus have been slowing down this way for its entire history? Five billion years is 250 million times the 20 years this change took. That would give Venus a tenth the rotational energy of Earth, or a 72-hour day. Lots of assumptions there. It's probably more likely this is a periodic change as the rotation rate moves in and out of resonance with Earth's year. If we wait 20 years, I guess we'll find out.

Phase 4: Resignation:

I suppose I could read the whole article now.

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Of course, there are things I left out: the internal monologue of caluclating in my head (which I am not at all good at, so please don't check my math), staring blankly into space, one or more additional episodes of getting sidetracked by random thoughts.

What does this say about my approach to science? First, my initial instinct to something new and unexpected is to try and figure out why it's wrong. When I'm asked to be a peer reviewer for a journal, I do the same thing. If I can't tell why it's wrong, maybe it's right.

I won't say I do that for articles that aren't unexpected, unless I'm reviewing it. If this article had said that Venus was rotating at exactly the same rate it did 20 years ago, I probably would have said "Yeah? So what?" and wouldn't have read it at all.

Second, when I go in, I'm going in armed. I don't want to be told what's happening; I want my own guesses as to what's going on, and I want to know what the physical limits of the problem are before I start reading. Maybe I'll still be surprised. Or maybe I'll find something they didn't think of. Think of it as a game.

What does this mean to you? Not much, probably. Your life probably isn't changed much by how you read a science article. But I do recommend skepticism to everyone, especially regarding money or your health, or anytime someone else has a lot to gain and you have a lot to lose.

 
 
 
Hi! I'm Eric Korpela. You may know me from such blog posts as "Ewoks live under my deck" and "How Spock and Sylar are related." As part of my continuing series on what the heck scientists do, I'd li...
Hi! I'm Eric Korpela. You may know me from such blog posts as "Ewoks live under my deck" and "How Spock and Sylar are related." As part of my continuing series on what the heck scientists do, I'd li...
 
 
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zSpin2001
All your base are belong to us.
07:49 PM on 03/02/2012
I also thought of how the sun is adding mass to the planets because of the barrage of alpha particles...then I think, well they aren't really alpha particles, more just the solar wind...anyway, would this change the effective spin or wobble of the planet depending on when and how these particles accumulate. I am also a scientist and live a skeptical life (although don't tell people on Huffington that you are a scientist), but I find it inconceivable to live a life differently. My wife knows how my scientist friends and I act. She says that we are all suffering from a strange form of autism that drives us into science so that we have other people with whom we can communicate.
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R.W. Sanders
Numerous questions, too little expertise
11:09 PM on 02/27/2012
This reminds me of an encounter I had with the accounting department of a corporation where I was employed. They were two cents off in their annual accounting. I saw this as being solved by putting in my two cents worth. But they were very upset, and things around the office almost became paralyzed during the search for the missing two cents. Moral: some things must be done even though they seem inconsequential.
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Aladdin Sane1
Remember what the dormouse said...
08:29 PM on 02/27/2012
97% of publishing climate scientists buy the theory of AGW (anthropogenic global warming). Of those, exactly 0% initially bought the theory. As in the article above, scientists are natural skeptics; and it's part of their profession to start from a point of disbelief because of this skepticism.

I find it pretty compelling that in the climate science of today that we're up to a 97% consensus.
12:39 AM on 02/28/2012
That's a pretty good way of looking at it... :-)
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QuietProfessional
Recovering Jedi
04:16 PM on 02/27/2012
Is is possible that Venus might actually be easier to terraform than Mars? Toxic atmosphere full of poisons, yes. But at least it has an atmosphere. Maybe it's content could be chemcially altered.
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GhostOfFDR
You're on the slippery slope to socialism
09:13 PM on 02/27/2012
We'd need to get rid of all that CO2 in the atmosphere to get the pressure down to a survivable point and to get the greenhouse effect to a low enough point that portions of the planet would be in the right temperature range.

Earth solved that problem for itself by making lots of carbonate rocks and sequestering organic carbon as coal and oil. Tough to do without water and life. Venus also destroyed its initial water inventory, so there's probably not much hydrogen around to make water with. Terraforming Venus is probably a much tougher challenge.

What we need is wormhole technology to send Venus's atmosphere to Mars and some of Earth's water to both of them. That'll solve sea level rise, too.
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QuietProfessional
Recovering Jedi
09:26 PM on 02/27/2012
Yeah. Lack of hydrogen's the big problem. Good idea, what with the wormhole!
10:04 PM on 02/27/2012
Venus is very hard to terraform, as GhostOfFDR has pointed out. But it might be quite easy to live on. Or, better, to float on. There is a layer of Venus atmosphere which has just the right pressure and the right temperature. Better still... air is lighter than the Venus atmosphere, so a balloon filled with air will float! One can imagine building complete floating cities in the Venus atmosphere. There is plenty of CO2, so we can make oxygen through the roof, there is enough nitrogen to enrich it to the point we need it for an 80-20 atmosphere easily, there is argon and probably even enough water to work with and to make rocket fuel for the trip home.
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QuietProfessional
Recovering Jedi
12:44 PM on 02/28/2012
I've been to Cloud City, and it worked pretty well. For a while.
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oneeasyrider
E=mc2: From light you exist
01:38 AM on 02/26/2012
Funny statement about the wife carrying groceries.

So lets assume observation of missing six and a half minutes is correct, because waiting twenty years will either prove the observation is incorrect due to measurement error or it's...correct, and in that case...we wasted twenty years ignoring the puzzle. And there's no reason to expect a static rotation. After all, Earth and Moon aren't static, either.

Two unusual contrary actions are red flags: Venus moves retrograde and it's atmosphere moves retrograde to Venus. Venus isn't an ice planet. Instead, it's surface is course, irregular and likely can lose momentum over time (billions of years) with essentially unlimited renewable energy transferred somewhere (Venus).

Also, if as expected Venus has been slowing for 5 billion years, period time change would not appear linearly as suggested...it would be almost insignificant initially and only more noticeable at the end of 5 billion years with much less angular momentum.
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Eric Korpela
04:34 PM on 02/26/2012
I wondering if we might not have to wait that long. I'm wondering the Arecibo Planetary Radar folks might be able to make accurate enough measurements much earlier than that and without the cost of flying to Venus. 6.5 minute in 243 days isn't a very big change though, though. About half a kilometer of shift at the sub-earth point over 20 years. Probably too small, but maybe I'll look into it.

Arecibo has some great radar images at http://www.naic.edu/~pradar/radarpage.html
06:28 PM on 02/26/2012
Hah! I didn't think about it that way! Now there is a planet that is rotating at a brisk walking speed (at the equator).

But then, walking or running at 4mph in an atmosphere with about 10% of the density of water might actually be quite strenuous...
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oneeasyrider
E=mc2: From light you exist
08:08 PM on 02/26/2012
Thanks for the link, it was fun learning about Arecibo. Knew the dish was massive, but didn't know it's three football fields in diameter. Even more amazing is the 900 ton telescope platform...just marveled at it's construction, while looking at the pictures. Seems safe to assume the platform it's impervious to wind.

And the control room is amazing too, in that, it's a relic right out of the 60's; it's my new link reference, when attempting to persuade people manned exploration leaches too much funds from legitimate science.

Didn't realize and was pleasantly surprised (but then, not surprised because researchers are reasonable people) anyone who can successfully navigate the proposal process can compete with master, doctoral candidates and professionals for consideration. Now I'm wondering, if in addition to published results...proposals can be viewed on-line as well?
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Eric Korpela
06:30 PM on 02/26/2012
I take that back, it's a shift of somewhat more than 15 km over 20 years.
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Chris1962
NYC
11:36 PM on 02/25/2012
Terrific article. Love your personality. You should have your own science TV show.
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Eric Korpela
03:26 PM on 02/26/2012
Thanks, when I give talks at Astronomy conferences, sometimes they don't notice the jokes. ;)
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Chris1962
NYC
04:26 PM on 02/26/2012
LOL. Well, you know those folks. They're a little on the "intense" side.
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cerebrogasm
The sleep of reason produces monsters. - Goya
03:12 AM on 02/25/2012
Did the author say that it was 20 years ago that Venus' rotational period was measured? Is there any chance that technology has so improved over those 20 years that we're simply seeing a more accurate description of what Venus is doing by using better measuring technology? I'd look at the measurement methodology and instrumentation compared to older evaluations first - as a scientist - the evidence has to be state-of-the-art - and "state-of-the-art" is inexorably linked to time as it pertains to refinement in qualifying "hard-evidence".
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Eric Korpela
03:50 PM on 02/25/2012
Yes, Magellan got to Venus in 1989, so its been more than 20 years, especially when you add in a decade of development there could be accuracy issues there. But even then I think it's hard to find a way to be 6.5 minutes off. It looks like Magellan was getting time updates almost every orbit during its normal mission and since it measured at least 6 revolutions of Venus, we'd hope someone would have told us if they weren't all the same length..
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cerebrogasm
The sleep of reason produces monsters. - Goya
05:27 AM on 02/26/2012
Astute comment - thanks.
11:03 PM on 02/25/2012
I think it's important to realise that "measurement error" always has to be on the list of a good scientist as an explanation for unexpected data. Not sure the case can be made here... space clocks are usually synced to atomic clocks that are driving the space networks... but people who know the ins and outs of all involved equipment need to check that. It's nothing we can do from the armchair.
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cerebrogasm
The sleep of reason produces monsters. - Goya
05:26 AM on 02/26/2012
...and then there are relativistic effects with large masses at orbital velocities and rotation period interplay. Remember where and at what rate atomic clocks are making their measurements. Every time we pin some observation down, empirically and with supporting mathematics, a decade later we often discover some error in the process: science is always refining itself in its quest for the truth of nature - no easy task.
01:39 AM on 02/25/2012
Why would Venus have to exchange rotational energy (better... angular momentum) with any other body (or it's own orbital angular momentum)? All it has to do to change its rotational PERIOD is to change its moments of inertia (by redistributing mass), or redistribute angular momentum between a differentially rotating core and the mantle/crust or the atmosphere. (Did I miss that somewhere in the article?)

OK... I admit... I fell into the same trap for the first few minutes of reasoning... and I still don't know what the answer is... :-)

I do love the description of the reasoning process, though. That's spot on!
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Eric Korpela
04:06 PM on 02/25/2012
I did consider a transfer of angular momentum to the atmosphere, but dismissed it without much calculation because I couldn't think of a good mechanism for the transfer and because the momentum would still have to be in the wind, and Venus Express would have probably noticed that.

I have to admit that a change of moment of inertia didn't even cross my mind. The way Venus resurfaces itself every billion years or so could change the moment of inertia. That should show up in atmospheric composition, I would think.

I wish Venus Express had the SAR capabilities the Magellan had.
10:57 PM on 02/25/2012
"I did consider a transfer of angular momentum to the atmosphere, but dismissed it without much calculation because I couldn't think of a good mechanism for the transfer and because the momentum would still have to be in the wind, and Venus Express would have probably noticed that. "

The interesting thing is that the atmosphere can actually absorb an amazingly large fraction of the planet's angular momentum. I was very surprised by that... Where a back of the envelope calculation runs into trouble is that shear forces are not enough to explain the required coupling... which basically means that the planet's atmosphere might rotate almost freely! I find that quite amazing, too.

"I have to admit that a change of moment of inertia didn't even cross my mind. The way Venus resurfaces itself every billion years or so could change the moment of inertia. That should show up in atmospheric composition, I would think."

My problem with that was that it would take about 100m of elevation difference over the whole planet or continent size chunks of crust rising by a km to accomplish that... I don't think anything close to that was observed by radar measurements.

I am kind of left with the coupling between a differentially rotating core and the mantle/crust... but I simply can't back that up with a simple back of the envelope.

It's a fun problem and might make a really good homework question in classical mechanics.