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The Hypocritical Oath?

Posted: 11/09/11 02:22 PM ET

Wall Street Journal editor Stephen Moore recently called me a hypocrite because I am a rich American who favors higher taxes on the wealthy yet do not voluntarily pay more to the federal government than I legally owe. Mr. Moore wishes he "had a dollar for every time a wealthy liberal has declared he thinks he should pay more taxes," a wish I would be happy to oblige if he gave me a dollar for every time a wealthy conservative has declared he pays too much. While he notes that there are "patriotic reasons for strongly opposing higher tax rates," it is quite obvious that wealthy conservatives like Mr. Moore have compelling personal reasons for opposing them, too, and hence perfectly understandable why they might want to counter the perception that they are merely selfish and greedy by trying to impugn the character of those who disagree with them rather than focusing on the substance of our position.

So to be clear, I acknowledge that many opponents of higher taxes -- even rich ones -- legitimately believe that low taxes on the wealthy benefit all Americans. But I think that the claim that anybody who favors higher taxes is morally obliged to pay more than they legally owe shows a fundamental misconception about the basis for the social compact we call government.

The primary role of government is to provide public goods and services -- things that benefit all citizens but that commercial markets cannot or will not provide. While Ron Paul questions the size of the military, even he acknowledges that some level of defense spending is necessary to keep Americans safe, and most people go further in including things like the transportation system and public education as collective goods which benefit society as a whole.

Mr. Moore comments that some collective goods can be paid for voluntarily. Well, sure: as a resident of a wealthy suburb, I know that my neighbors are happy to donate money to the local public schools attended by their own children. But I wouldn't count on this largesse paying for school systems in nearby, poorer towns (just consider the long and tangled history of public school funding in my home state of New Jersey).

Game theorists have spent decades studying social dilemmas like this, when there is a cost to creating something which benefits all members of a community. Dozens of experiments have shown that when people have an opportunity to "free ride" by not contributing but still benefiting from the contributions of others, social cooperation will often be initially observed but then tends to break down with the end result that nobody contributes, and hence nobody benefits.

In fact, standard economic theory says that since it is perfectly rational to free ride, nobody will ever contribute to a public good in the absence of coercion. Fortunately, empirical evidence demonstrates that economists misunderstand human nature, since the majority of subjects in public goods experiments are not free riders but "conditional cooperators," willing to contribute as long as everybody else does, too.

So I feel no need to apologize for only paying what I owe in taxes -- I'm a human, not a saint (though I feel compelled to note that over the last five years, I have given an average of over 11% of my income to various charities). Why should I let rich conservatives like Mr. Moore free ride on my contributions? Are they willing to forgo the benefits of public goods like national defense?

After decades of failing to pay for the costs of government, the United States faces difficult choices. Avoiding disaster will require sacrifices from all Americans, and I personally think that the wealthy should be the first to contribute. But while I consider myself deeply patriotic, I don't think that wealthy liberals should bear that burden alone.

 
 
 
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09:09 AM on 11/11/2011
Why should people who took out liar loans on homes they never had any intention of repaying get the benefit of my fiscal probity? Why should students who went 6 figures in debt to get an MFA reap the reward of someone else forgiving their decisions?
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
02:17 PM on 11/11/2011
Because they were a TINY TINY TINY TINY minority of those who took out mortgages. MOST who took out a mortgage (more than 90%...) were doing so because they wanted to live there for their lives. The remainder (about 9.999999%) were trying to make money on their homes.
01:16 AM on 11/11/2011
I am okay with this as lOng as the rich folks who don't contribute have to send their kids into the next war first because they obviously didn't pay their share of the war. Can we get that system going? Even if we don't get a decent society, at least we will get no war.
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11:55 AM on 11/10/2011
I tend to agree. Supporting government is a responsibility of taxpayers as determined by democratic principles and procedures. IHMO, alms giving, whether or not it helps government budgets, should be in secret as recommended by Jesus...if for no other reason than personal satisfaction. As a bonus, there is a promise of an open reward from the Father for doing it in secret.
09:25 AM on 11/10/2011
Imagine this after the debate.

Heh Hah Anita ....... I got Ron Paul scared of me..........

Now honey can you help me understand this? What does it mean when they are saying I believe in capital cronisym. Honey I thought you told me that I had to play nice with my friends. Its not my fault that the 'oversees state job-stimulating funds that have provided almost $633 million to companies likeHome Depot Inc. (HD) and agribusinesses such as Tyson Foods only created 10,000 jobs and not the 60,000 they promised. And golly I can't ask those folks to give back their money, after it is Christian to forgive and forget. I did manage to employee, or give powerful postions to everyone who gave me lots of money to my campaign or let us in their fancy jets. Why are they made at me I am only doing what my momma taught me, share and be nice to all those nice people.

Honey I can't make all those decisions needed to run the country. Boy am I glad that you told me to eliminatel federal gov't agencies push all problems back to the state. Then I can blame them when the people are hurting. But how I am going to explain to all my , "friends"and benefactors I can't give them any more influence in running the country. Boy this job is tough............


Fact , fiction or an American nightmare. Slick Rick in the WH 2012. Vote America
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10:03 AM on 11/10/2011
That was plain scary!! I imagine it would go just about like your scenario depicts.
07:10 AM on 11/10/2011
When a government exceeds it roll and spends tax money on things it was not designed to there rises a problem. The government has spent money to choose winner and loser in the business the world. Bail outs went to companies that supported one party. While many companies were left to fail other companies were bail out or bought by the government. The government bought gm. Now they 10,000 write off for every volt sold. The government has over reached and is spending on many things it should not. The 11% you donate to charity is a write off? So are you donating your money or tax payers money. There should be a flat tax with no write off or loop holes, then everyone would have some skin in the game. But the 47% that pays no taxes would not hear of that.
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02:18 PM on 11/11/2011
No, because the government is made of the people, and if the people willingly choose to expand what they want their government to do, then it's more than okay.
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Christian Howell
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07:28 PM on 11/09/2011
MY thoughts exactly. Just like Herman Cain "free rode" into the Civil Rights era, he should be told he still has to ride the back of the bus. If you don't want to pay your fair share, you get no public services ( yes electricity is basically public).

Any research sponsored by the government can't be taken advantage of. No cops or firemen for you.
06:35 PM on 11/09/2011
I still don't get how the whole share is a fair share. 53%.
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06:17 PM on 11/09/2011
The primary role of government is to provide public goods and services -- things that benefit all citizens but that commercial markets cannot or will not provide.

Add 'should not' to the end of that sentence please!
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06:39 PM on 11/09/2011
NO !
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08:45 AM on 11/10/2011
F7,
Unless, I miss understand, which I hope that I have…. The government is a center point organizer for the rights of individual states. Its primary function was foreign affaires, commerce, treaties, the defense of our sovereignty and protector of our constitution.

If you still believe what you said, it is obvious that you are a " GIVE ME, GIVE ME, GIVE ME PERSON that expects the government to wipe your a** when you are too lazy to go to the store and buy toilet paper.

As I said, I hope that I misinterpreted your post. I'm not up to speed of all of the "Would-a, Could-a , Should-a's, and even I can be wrong.
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01:04 PM on 11/10/2011
Nope, I've worked my tail off getting to where I am. But, in the process I've had the benefit of good roads, good schools, access to a fair and well regulated marketplace, clean air to breathe, clean water to drink, a stable currency to work with, regulated police forces to protect me and my family, well funded fire departments, and the list goes on.

In the process of living I have learned that not every citizen has the same access or opportunities I had. Some are incapable of getting where I have due to disabilities, others because the educational opportunities or social support was lacking.

I believe that the government exists to protect its citizens. The oath I took was to protect the nation from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Poverty and ignorance are domestic enemies. Abuse of power and exploitation of citizens for profit are domestic enemies. I believe in using government to help those citizens get where I am, or as close as they can. I do not believe in using government to enhance the profits of those who are already doing well. I do not believe in Empire. I do not believe in pandering to the ignorant and the bigoted to advance my own self interest.

Nobody who succeeds in the United States does it on their own. We are in this together. We owe our fellow citizens a fair shot, and we should all be willing to pay our dues to keep America great!
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05:41 PM on 11/09/2011
I'm just happy the National Science Foundation has enough money to support Broadway musicals.
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05:15 PM on 11/09/2011
"Game theorists have spent decades studying social dilemmas like this,"

No fair introducing math into the argument.
01:19 AM on 11/11/2011
True. I believe we have already figured out that math always rules against American republicans so it's obviously biased. Your use of such a biased source as basic arithmetic proves you are a artisan hack.
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Berettasskeeter
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05:17 PM on 11/09/2011
Mr. Schoenberg, you wrote, "The primary role of government is to provide public goods and services -- things that benefit all citizens but that commercial markets cannot or will not provide."
The government has specifically enumerated Powers, with strict limitations put on it by the 10th Amendment. So, while the military is a proper role for the federal government, paying farmers NOT to farm is NOT. This holds true for 80% of the rest of what the federal government taxes us for, including Social Security and Medicare. The government does NOT have that Power. If the citizens of a state wish their State to perform such a task, they may vote to have themselves taxed for it. The Interstate system, which I am sure you will bring up, was proposed by President Eisenhower as a National Defense requirement. You might research it, and you will find that the main legs of the interstate were required to be suitable for landing combat aircraft, requiring fairly long stretches of flat, straight, lanes. The Federal Government does NOT fund local police or fire, so please try to avoid them.
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06:20 PM on 11/09/2011
Hmm, the FBI and Secret Service are not police forces? Now about military police? Most Land management agencies have their own police forces as well. The Forest Service and BLM both employ firefighters in may locals, so there goes that argument.

As for your so-called constitutional argument, the federal government is empowered to legislate for the common welfare of the nation, and the commerce clause grants pretty wide authority. The limits of the 10th amendment were tested in the mid 1800's, and federal authority was established pretty definitively.
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Berettasskeeter
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07:55 PM on 11/09/2011
The FBI is a national police force, and not the only one. The Secret Service is part of the Dept. of Treasury, and has primary responsibility for rooting out counterfeiting, with secondary responsibility of protecting defined national individuals.
The others have NO Constitutional authority, as in the Forest Service and BLM you cite.
Please read our Founders ideas of the strict limitations of the federal government, and their ideas of "common welfare". It is those strict limitations which we wish to reimpose on the fed.
The 10th was never amended out of existence. It is therefore still the operative restraint on the Federal government!
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09:59 AM on 11/10/2011
The federal government funds local law enforcement every day. Here's just one of hundreds of stories of how federal money helps to support local police work. I chose this one just because it happens to take place deep in the heart of "the federal government is the devil" country.

http://www.themonitor.com/articles/supports-42092-federal-local.html
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Berettasskeeter
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01:15 PM on 11/10/2011
The federal government does, indeed, provide some funding to local law enforcement. And the strings that come attached are onerous to those communities. Further, such funding is NOT the province of the Fed. It is the province of the local communities, and if they do not wish to tax themselves sufficiently to provide for such funding, that is their Right and privilege. However, reduce the funding going to the Fed, and such money may be provided locally!!
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04:53 PM on 11/09/2011
Eric I wrote a blog that shows the rich getting continued tax breaks while lower income pays more.

http://doesthegopcare.blogspot.com/

People love to say that less taxes raise revenue because of increased spending and economic growth but the problem is we have less spending up to and including the national median income for a family of 4.

Mike
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04:49 PM on 11/09/2011
"standard economic theory says that since it is perfectly rational to free ride, nobody will ever contribute to a public good in the absence of coercion."

All once needs to do is look at the few publicly supported (i.e, as in voluntary contributions) TV and radio stations; they are lucky to get even 10 percent of their listener base to contribute.
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oneeasyrider
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04:23 PM on 11/09/2011
Excellent commentary. I would only disagree with "legitimately believe that low taxes on the wealthy benefit all Americans." Conservatives are smart, they know better and don't fool me for a second.
04:16 PM on 11/09/2011
Agreed! If every wealthy liberal decided to freely give more than they're legally obligated to pay, then how will wealthy conservatives ever learn what grander measures truly need to be taken, what major shifts in social, economic, and political thought need to take place in order to change the trajectory of our economy and society. Government needs to function as intended and work to solve the problems at hand, not challenge individuals to start handing over their hard earned cash because they make criticize a broken system.
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Berettasskeeter
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05:17 PM on 11/09/2011
"...what grander measures truly need to be taken..."??? What does that mean? If the wealthy insisting that they should be taxed more truly have such grand ideas, let them pay for those grand ideas. Andrew Carnegie did so, as have the Rockefellers and Fords.
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06:13 PM on 11/09/2011
TOTAL LIE.