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San Onofre: We Can't Ignore the Warning Signs

Posted: 05/17/2012 5:29 pm

Growing up, I used to race my station wagon down country roads, pushing the limits of the engine, my safety and bystanders' safety on the road beyond reason. It was stupid. Fortunately, I learned several lessons about a car's engine.

First, when your car's engine light starts flashing without warning; clouds of steam rise from under the hood; the needle on the temperature gauge sticks in the red zone -- stop the car.

Second, if you hear clunking and vibrations from the engine -- stop the car.

In both instances, I decided to run the car anyway and ended up replacing a blown engine. Costing money and needlessly putting lives, including my own, at risk.

Unbelievably, Southern California Edison is faced with a similar decision with its crippled San Onofre nuclear power plant on the coast in Orange County. The reactors have already released radioactive steam and are literally shaking themselves apart. Instead of keeping the reactors shut down, Southern Edison is rushing to restart the reactors and running them as hard as possible.

San Onofre's twin reactors have been shut down since January, after leaks developed in some of the thousands of thin, tightly packed tubes that carry radioactive steam from the plant's generators -- crucial components that were meant to last for decades but failed after less than two years of operation. As the Associated Press reported, Edison gambled more than half a billion dollars -- costs it passed on to its customers -- on a new generator design in an attempt to increase the power produced by the reactors.

Since then, Edison has failed to provide the detailed technical information required by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to decide if and when the reactors can be restarted. Instead, Edison is pushing for a restart as early as next month. The utility insists that San Onofre can be operated safely if some of the faulty tubes are plugged and the reactors are run at reduced power.

A new report (PDF) commissioned by Friends of the Earth found that the design of the generators themselves is faulty -- a problem that could have been detected if Edison had allowed the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to properly review its plans before the new generators were installed. The report by Arnie Gundersen, a nuclear engineer of 40 years' experience, found that plugging tubes and restarting the reactors at reduced power won't solve the problem -- and could make it worse, risking a catastrophe that would endanger the 8-million-plus people who live within 50 miles of the reactors and millions more beyond. Friends of the Earth is working with communities and activists throughout southern California to try to avoid such a disaster and to demand no restart of the San Onofre reactors.

City councillors in southern California are drawing the same conclusions about the risks of operating San Onofre, stating that common sense tells you that a dangerous reactor at 100 percent power remains dangerous at 50-80 percent power. For those reasons and more the City of Irvine Council -- representing a population of more than 200,000 and located less than 22 miles from the nuclear reactors -- has called on the NRC to not approve an early restart of the reactors unless it can guarantee no repeat of the problems in the generators.

We've also released a new ad (below) sounding the alarm about Edison's risky scheme, urging concerned Californians to contact U.S. Senators Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer. Sen. Boxer, chair of the Environment and Public Works Committee, has already stepped up, asking the NRC and Edison by May 21 to produce documentation about what Edison knew about the new generators' design and whether the agency adequately reviewed them.

Edison has raised the spectre of blackouts this summer if San Onofre, representing half of the nuclear power capacity in the state, remains shut down. This is an irresponsible threat. The agency that manages the state's power grid says blackouts can be avoided through energy conservation. San Onofre must remain closed so that California can move toward a clean and safe energy future.


 

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Growing up, I used to race my station wagon down country roads, pushing the limits of the engine, my safety and bystanders' safety on the road beyond reason. It was stupid. Fortunately, I learned se...
Growing up, I used to race my station wagon down country roads, pushing the limits of the engine, my safety and bystanders' safety on the road beyond reason. It was stupid. Fortunately, I learned se...
 
 
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professor
Correkt the Spelling and Pick on the Moniker
05:01 PM on 05/20/2012
The SCE is too rushing to restart and planning to run them as hard as possible.

Trose just out and out li while they sit in their kitchens, drink beer, and earn a quarter a post insulting people anonymously in their cwardly way.
professor
Correkt the Spelling and Pick on the Moniker
04:55 PM on 05/20/2012
I like how idyl just kiboshes the ignorant trose--proving that they are phony "experts."
professor
Correkt the Spelling and Pick on the Moniker
04:51 PM on 05/20/2012
It's the pro-nukes who say "the sky is falling" the unbelievable gall of them.

They say the sky will fall if we abolish nukes. Oh, no! The end of the world if we abolish nukes! Heavens to Betsy!

We say, oh, get real. The sky will hardly fall if we abolish nukes. We will get by just fine.

Who is the reasonable one? Who the alarmist? The trose are the alarmists. Obviously.
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MAX1
Climate and Peace Advocate
04:10 AM on 05/20/2012
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San Onofre: Bad Vibrations
http://www.fairewinds.org/content/san-onofre-bad-vibrations
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02:04 AM on 05/20/2012
Plugging lines has been done for many years at conventional steam generators with no problems, just another the sky is falling story.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
05:13 PM on 05/19/2012
A couple of caveats.

This is for the pro-nuclear folks in an era of peak oil & energy demand going up while cheap oil supply is flat, which drives the need to look at other energy stocks to keep fueling our imperial industrial economic model of more growth regardless of risk,cost & health to people & our ecosystems, and that is how we use money in this obsolete system of neoclassical economics which continues to put all of humanity at risk by using shortcuts.

Pro-nuke types never seem to take into full accounting organizational behaviors in risk assessment- the driving force of neoclassical economics as it relate4s to how decisions are made based on how we use money which puts us all at risk.

And regardless of rubbers on pencils, we should have zero risk option given the damage assessment resulting from a meltdown, you'd think precludes such material concerns of using shortcuts-but it never does, regardless of risk.

Secondly, the "inherent infallibility of man"(having worked for Circle Seal Controls a mfg. of nuclear controls) where because there is always such a driving force of cost & profit as the driving force behind everyone's collective financial security , these motives mean we w/o fail cut corners on materials & processes that in the end, end up killing people

I've seen it time & again for most of my life, having been on both ends of pvt. industry & emergency response conducting post accident hazard analysis.

Shut the facility down.
03:33 AM on 05/19/2012
It's very gratifying when the other side of an arguement has to resort to lies to make their arguement. To wit, SCE is not "rushing to restart the reactors". The units are dead in the water. Their is virtually no activity on site and their won't be until the NRC gives the green light. Also, SCE won't be "running them as hard as possible." They plan on running them at 50% power. And Arnie Gundersen? Erich you lost all credibility when you went there. He's a science teacher who moonlights as an expert witness in anti-nuke cases. His resume is as inflated as the Goodyear blimp. He knows as much about day-to-day operation of a commercial nuclear plant as you do, i.e. zero. You watermelons really have no credibility. All you seem to have is alot of time on your hands to sit in your parents basement and vomit out these screeds.
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alvdh1
02:46 PM on 05/19/2012
Arnie has 39 years of actual experience in the nuclear power industry. But don let that get in the way of the standard nuclear power industry method of attacking the messenger instead of the message.
12:24 PM on 05/21/2012
Thanks for bolstering my point. You didn't address any statement I made. You took the standard watermelon method of attacking what you think is the weakest part of my argument, then declaring total victory. By your loose definition of "experience in the nuclear power industry", the guy dropping off copy paper at SONGS has nuclear power experience. Your friend Arnie worked for a consulting firm. He probably told utilities they could save $3/ton on laundry costs if they switched from plastic to paper. He has never lit up one light bulb in any job he worked. I've been lighting up bulbs with nuclear since 1984. Sorry you brought a knife to a gunfight.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
12:32 PM on 05/18/2012
Uh please get this right it's in northern San Diego County and it's mostly run by SCE but also is a power provider for SDG&E and the City Of Riverside Public Services (electric).
12:23 PM on 05/18/2012
I toured the San Onofre nuclear power plant on an elementary school field trip in the sixties. That plant has done its duty. Like me, it's aged and tired and should retire.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
12:33 PM on 05/18/2012
Perhaps so. Now if fusion proves viable, from the work going on at the NIF perhaps this could be converted into the first nuclear fusion generating plant.
03:43 AM on 05/19/2012
Nice try. SONGS 2 and 3 didn't go online until the mid eighties. I guess the mind is the second thing to go.
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wmnorton
Moderate where moderate used to be
10:56 PM on 05/20/2012
As you age there are three things that start going bad , first your ears, then your eyes, and I can't remember the third thing.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
08:44 AM on 05/18/2012
More faulty and dangerous equipment brought to us by utility companies that cut corners and install inferior products to save money, at the expense of public health. All radioactive emissions are damaging. The nuclear power industry tries to claim to be economical, but time after time, they say they cannot afford safety standards. 
  Thanks to the author for keeping this story in the news. I was put off by the opening, with a false comparison to a car engine. A power plant is not a car;do not insult our intelligence with such nonsense.
Then the closing statement that we need to close this plant so we can install renewable energy. We need to close the plant for public safety, not for the convenience of the competition.  Obviously safe, renewable energy power is preferred over dirty power, but this power plant must be judged on it's own merits, not be subject to perverse tactics.
01:05 AM on 05/18/2012
"Fukushima exists becasue evil voters think that capitalists should have the power to decide whether or not to allow aging unsafe nuclear power plants to be shut down before they melt down, and since capitalists care more about profit than about people, unsafe nuclear reactors in capitalist countries cannot be shut down before they melt down."

I was speaking last year (after Fukushima) with a nuclear physicist at UC Berkeley, who tried hard to convince me that ionizing radiation isn't really all that harmful after all. He came very close to saying Chernobyl was just a few extra cases of thyroid cancer among kids.

Fukushima-Diary.com is a great site to follow what's going in Japan.

As for San Onofre, what a mess. I'm really glad Boxer is asking for those documents.

The fact that they have been nowhere to be found tells us the extent to which we can trust So Cal Edison. Also, did Edison know about the tube wear in Reactor 2, which was offline for maintenance, while Unit 3 was still running? We don't have a clear answer on that either though Edison (of course) claims they didn't notice the tube wear on 2 during maintenance. So, they claim, it was a big surprise when the tube on Reactor 3 blew. But was it really?
Did they know about the wear in 2 and keep 3 running anyway?
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
08:49 AM on 05/18/2012
The utility has a duty to the public safety. When a company is caught falsifying records. and flaunting safety regulations, they should have their operating license revoked for a period of time. The system of levying fines to be paid for by stockholders and customers does nothing to enforce compliance with the law. They need license to operate, and that is the tool to force compliance.
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FTracy3
My micro-bio is as empty as the rest of my life.
12:42 AM on 05/18/2012
Erich, I hope you were posting this on a wind-powered laptop.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
08:49 AM on 05/18/2012
Pointless distraction from the issue at hand.
03:50 AM on 05/19/2012
I think his point is, all you watermelons that are still on the grid are hypocrits. If you are a hypocrit, then you have no credibility. If you have no credibility, people should know that BEFORE they hear what you have to say. If you want to get rid of nuclear power, GET OFF THE GRID!
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Issaquah79
Look mom no head!
11:46 PM on 05/17/2012
Uhh sorry but we have bigger fish to fry when it comes to nuclear reactors. There is a complete media blackout on the situation of Fukushima reactor 4. The nothern hemisphere is about to become uninhabitable and nobody cares! Looks like the mayans were right!
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undsoweiter
but I know where to look it up
08:10 AM on 05/18/2012
There is no "situation" at #4. The pool has been reinforced and has been seismically evaluated to withstand another 9.
Efforts to add more drama to the situation are beginning to reach a level of absurdity that beggars imagination.
09:41 AM on 05/18/2012
Some additional steel was added, but not seismically to withstand another 9. The original plant was only engineered to a design base of 8.2.

http://www.ans.org/misc/corradini.pdf

"At the Daiichi plants the design basis safe-shutdown earthquake was 8.2 as measured on the Richter scale."

Please provide links to unsubstantiated claims, and stop intentionally misleading people (and providing faulty information) on the site.
10:25 AM on 05/18/2012
Debunking the reactor 4 hype:

http://ansnuclearcafe.org/2012/05/16/spent-fuel-at-fukushima-not-dangerous/
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
07:39 PM on 05/17/2012
Well said. It should be obvious, but big money cut corners and takes risks till people die.

Always have, always will.

rooftop solar is cheaper and faster to install than nukes. wind and waste are half the cost of nukes.

Nukes are trillion dollar, million cancer disasters, million year, million cancer waste, and civilization ending proliferation.
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seaperl
06:44 PM on 05/17/2012
If the people in California haven't got enough sense to stand up to SCE and tell them "Not No but HELL NO" then they deserve what happens. And if anything does happen I think the Executives at SCE should be held criminally and financially responsible. Maybe there should be a rule that the Executives that run a nuclear power plant must live with 1 mile of it. I think their perspective would be much different.
03:58 AM on 05/19/2012
Are you off the grid yet? Then I guess you're responsible, too. P.s. I live 2 miles away and if we have a 40 foot tsunami, the nuke plant is the last thing I'll worry about.