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What Does Afghanistan Have to Do With Vietnam?

Posted: 03/11/2012 3:32 pm

SEATTLE -- Well, the latest news is that a lone U.S. serviceman has gone on a shooting rampage outside Kandahar and killed at least 16 people. The Los Angeles Times reports:

The shooting early Sunday took place in Panjwayi district outside Kandahar city, in a village called Alkozai. U.S. military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it was believed that the assailant had suffered a mental breakdown.

There are so many questions raised but not answered here. We can and will learn more details over the coming days, but the thing is, I'm not confident the real questions will be answered satisfactorily. Why did he suffer a mental breakdown? Will he, and he alone, be held responsible? Another way of asking that is: Will he be made a scapegoat, like the enlisted personnel at Abu Ghraib? Might one of these incidents prompt some real soul-searching higher up the American chain of command -- maybe even a high-profile principled resignation by, say, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or the Secretary of Defense?

I do know there are many good people in the U.S. military -- I've met them -- and that they take moral and ethical issues seriously. Just three weeks ago I had the honor of being heard out respectfully when I gave a challenging speech (titled "Some Things Are Just Plain Wrong") at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. What I do know is that this incident requires a real, soul-searching moral response by the American military hierarchy.

But the military does the bidding of civilian society, and that's where the real soul-searching needs to take place. I know Americans have a lot on our plate these days, what with the mortgage crisis, the election, etc. But Afghanistan is not far away; it's right here, bleeding all over American society. Afghanistan is one of the things on our plate, whether we like it or not.

Americans have become great excuse-makers. When Jared Loughner killed several people and almost killed Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords outside a Safeway in Tucson last year, people like me who saw the incident as inherently political were shouted down by the many who glibly claimed he was a "lone nut." (One of the articles I wrote at the time is online here.) That excuse didn't cut it for Loughner, and it won't cut it in this case either.

I can't say all that needs to be said in one hastily written article. Nor should I: there needs to be a real, honest conversation about Afghanistan among Americans. Finger-wagging by one writer, or even by a few writers, won't suffice.

For now, I'll try to draw our attention back to a question that's behind so much recent history -- so far behind that it usually goes unasked: Do we Americans want to have a relationship with the rest of the world, or do we just want to use other societies and nations for our own purposes?

I recently completed a small research project about coverage of Pakistan and Afghanistan after and before 9/11 in Foreign Affairs, the flagship journal of the U.S. foreign policy establishment. As far as I can tell, the last article fully devoted to Pakistan in Foreign Affairs before 2002 was "The New Phase in U.S.-Pakistani Relations," by Professor Thomas P. Thornton of Johns Hopkins University, published in -- get this -- 1989. It's a memorandum from an era now long past, and any number of passages from it could be quoted for ironic or darkly comic effect:

The United States must consider how to react to the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan: Should we use this favorable situation to enhance our role in the region along the Soviets' southern flank? Or should the United States reduce its heavy commitment in such a distant region and postpone thinking about South Asia until more pressing problems elsewhere have been taken in hand? ... The Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan reduces the need for an intimate relationship with Islamabad.

Todd Shea, a high-school dropout who has lived and worked in Pakistan providing disaster relief and health care since the earthquake that killed 80,000 people there on October 8, 2005, and who has never been invited to contribute to Foreign Affairs, has an answer to Thornton that resounds with tragic echoes of what might have been. Here's what Todd said to me in July 2009 (I quote this passage in my new book Bearing the Bruise: A Life Graced by Haiti):

I believe that it was a direct recognition that in the eyes of the U.S. leaders at the time, they were barbarians, subhuman, not worth it. And I would submit that they are human beings, that if U.S. leaders had treated them as important in a human way, then society in Pakistan and Afghanistan would be far further along today, because we would have helped them avoid all the things that are happening now. If you remember, at the time, we were loved. Both countries were in such a state of need, and then we just left. "We got rid of our big enemy, let's get outta here," and boy, wasn't that a strategic error. When the [Berlin] Wall came down and we were waving flags and saying "America, America," why weren't we waving Pakistani flags? I remember seeing the Wall come down and all that, and I don't remember hearing anything about Pakistan.

And yes, it has everything to do with Vietnam, with which American society never did come to terms. As an older friend once told me, what the Sixties were about was how "the blood of the war got on everyone's hands, and we couldn't wash it off. It's still all over the place."

But it's possible to see clearly, even through the fog of war -- if we want to, which means shouldering responsibility for things from which we'd rather avert our eyes. In Bangkok on January 13, 1966, a young journalist and sometime U.S. Senate staffer named Clyde Edwin Pettit, who had recently been in Saigon where he had spoken "intensively to over 200 people from colonels to privates, journalists and businessmen, Vietnamese, and English and French colonials," typed a long letter to Senator J. William Fulbright, Democrat of Arkansas and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which Fulbright read into the Congressional Record and later publicly credited with having compelled him to reverse his position on the war. In the letter, Pettit asserted that it was "vitally incumbent that we speak and speak with sincerity" to the Vietnamese:

I question both our original involvement and the deepening of our commitment. ... I am very frightened. I could talk about bright spots; there are many. I do not think they override the stark, terrifying realities of a stalemate, at best, purchased at inconceivable cost and coupled with humiliating setbacks and losses. Then always, and I do not say this lightly, there is the unlikely but ever-present possibility of catastrophe. The road from Valley Forge to Vietnam has been a long one, and the analogy is more than alliterative: there are some similarities, only this time we are the British and they are barefoot. ... I would rather America err on the side of being overly generous than on the side of military miscalculation of inconceivable cost. For what, the world might well ask should we win the gamble, have we won?

ETHAN CASEY is the author of Alive and Well in Pakistan: A Human Journey in a Dangerous Time (2004), Overtaken By Events: A Pakistan Road Trip (2010), and Bearing the Bruise: A Life Graced by Haiti (2012). Web: www.ethancasey.com or www.facebook.com/ethancaseyfans

 

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SEATTLE -- Well, the latest news is that a lone U.S. serviceman has gone on a shooting rampage outside Kandahar and killed at least 16 people. The Los Angeles Times reports:The shooting early Sunday t...
SEATTLE -- Well, the latest news is that a lone U.S. serviceman has gone on a shooting rampage outside Kandahar and killed at least 16 people. The Los Angeles Times reports:The shooting early Sunday t...
 
 
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Alois SaintMartin
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06:51 PM on 03/12/2012
For Your Information Mr. Jones @? Both Countries are based on Non Christian Oriental Religions dating back many times the age of Democracy in America. Both Countries are essentially rivalrous tribal Nomadic Herder, or Agricultural, Non industrial sub regions of larger Civilizations. Like the European Imperialist Safari Dillusions before them; The Globalizationist Capitalist Contractor Desperation's, will find no El Dorado in the Cliffs and Caves of the Indo Aryan Orient. Never fall asleep with the Book open to the Last Page !
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Maxine
05:17 PM on 03/12/2012
Is the author comparing or contrasting Vietnam with Afghanistan because of the war atrocities or that the war is taking too long and we can't win. As far as atrocities go, these occur in every war (even the so called "good" ones) such as WWII, WWI, etc. Afghanistan is a failure and it would be nice if the administration would at least tell the American public why we should stay in Afghanistan. The "failure is not an option" euphuism doesn't work anymore. Because failure is a reality now.
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wbearl
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03:13 PM on 03/12/2012
Unfortunately this type of incidence is not all that uncommon. It has happened in every war ever fought. Someone who has seen too much or experience too much, snaps. Prior to Vietnam it was easy to cover up, because the war wasn't blasting into everyone's front room every day. I beg people to not jump to conclusions or pass condemnation. Until you have spent months fearing every so called civilian you see, until you have had friends who have been killed or crippled by so called civilians, you aren't qualified to pass judgement. I was in Vietnam in 68, 69 & 70. I also remember the My Lai incident. I remember the trial of Lt Kelly who was the platoon leader on that ill fated patrol. I also remember feeling sorry for the LT having lost men from attacks from the very village he attack. But I want to suggest that we, the American Public, are as guilty as Lt Kelly or this Sargent, for putting them in this position. There is no such thing as a clean war, war is dirty and when you are done with it you feel dirty. This man will undoubtedly be found guilty and will spend the rest of his life in a jail cell next to Lt Kelly.
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01:32 PM on 03/12/2012
this is the only post about this incident on the front page of huffpo and its not prominently placed. down play and ignore anyone?
Hambone1
When not just ANY bone will do
12:07 PM on 03/12/2012
What have we won INDEED! As a Viet Nam combat vet I feel qualifed to answer that question. NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only way to get the attention of Americans regarding war is to reinstate the draft with no deferments. When everyones sons and daughters must serve EVERYONE will pay attention. Having said that, I don't think ANY of the wars in my 63 year life time has been justified, NOT ONE OF THEM!!
04:05 PM on 03/12/2012
Thanks for your service and welcome home.
11:43 AM on 03/12/2012
My Lai will always be there. No matter how much we try to cover it up, no matter how much we want to believe that we fight our wars to a moral standard, no matter how much we think we can prevent it, My Lai will always be there.
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BassguyGG
Former Moderate driven Left by eight years of Bush
11:14 AM on 03/12/2012
Ten years into the war we finally have this generation's Mi Lai. No doubt it's happened before but it couldn't be hushed up this time. If this war had been televised instead of carefully managed under a press blackout and allowed to run in the background, it would have been over several years ago. But, like Vietnam, the war is not run to be won but to be sustained. War in Afghanistan bankrupted the Soviet Union, do we not think it will eventually bankrupt us as well?
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Craig2
Living in the great State of Jefferson
11:07 AM on 03/12/2012
Good morning, A bow to George Carlin, "Shell shock!"
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Craig2
Living in the great State of Jefferson
10:52 AM on 03/12/2012
Good mroning, Gotta ask. To all you folks who were "gung ho" to go to war in Afghanistan... What the hell did you expect was going to happen? Somehow we were "special".
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Craig2
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10:47 AM on 03/12/2012
Good morning, Afghanistan hasn't generated any good anti-war songs... yet. At least not in English. Vietnam? Now there's some good anti-war songs.
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Ethan Casey
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01:58 PM on 03/12/2012
"John Walker's Blues" by Steve Earle is a classic, right up there with anything Woody Guthrie ever wrote.
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Robert Frank
My last name is FRANK so thats what I am..
10:34 AM on 03/12/2012
the U.S. is too stupid and arrogant to learn the lessons of war..each time we come up with some new lame excuse for going to war..
10:25 AM on 03/12/2012
When President Lyndon Johnson went on television to announce one of his many escalations of the VIetnam war he said repeatedly that we were winning the war and we know now that he knew and said in private that the opposite was true and that it was unwinnable. In other words he was lying as he sent people to die in a war that should have never been fought. Today when I hear the military brass and the president say we are making great progress in Afghanistan I know that they are either lying or are so stupid they cannot see what is obvious to any intelligent observer. I lean towards them lying.
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DeepThought24
NATURE, REASON, FACTS and SCIENCE...not
10:10 AM on 03/12/2012
> Why did he suffer a mental breakdown?

Actually the whole US Government is suffering a mental breakdown.
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Dredd
Our government is a wartocracy.
09:53 AM on 03/12/2012
" ... the military does the bidding of civilian society ..."

Until it doesn't ... clothes don't make the man ... even uniform clothing ...

Civilian society for a long time has said these wars should have been over yesterday. Crickets.

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2012/03/fighting-terrorism-for-200-years-2.html
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pj-smith
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12:01 PM on 03/12/2012
it sure isn't about the 99%r....we want it done and over...the neocons and the hawks and the MIC on the other hand....
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Silverfern
09:44 AM on 03/12/2012
The reason that these guys are on multiple tours is that the rest of the country support the troops but not enough to actually lighten their burden and sign up themselves. 300 million people, yet there are not enough volunteers. A lot of people volunteering others children though.