A newly released Fatwa (religious edict) has prohibited women in Saudi Arabia from working on tills in supermarkets. The country's "Permanent Committee for Fatwas" (PCF) has recently made it clear that only men can sit behind cash-registers to calculate the value of your purchased goods, take your money, count it and give you back your change, despite the fact that the country's Ministry of Labour doesn't have such restrictions within its employment guidelines for retail outlets.
The PCF Fatwa holds No. 24937 and was released on October 31st 2010. Since then, it has caused quite a stir in the Saudi Kingdom; a country where shopping could be considered a national sport and arguably society's biggest past-time.
The edict states that "Women are not allowed to work in places where mixing with men occurs... what is required for them is to look for an allowed line of work where she may not seduce or be seduced."
Local media reports have claimed that this edict was issued after the PCF received a question directed to the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia asking what his thoughts were regarding women working on supermarket tills where they "mix with men, talk to them, receive/give back goods and attend training sessions with male colleagues.
Fatwas have been a hot topic in the country over the past 2 years with several "un-carefully thought through" edicts being released and intensely criticized by members of government, clergy, society and the media. Earlier this year, the Saudi King, Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, issued a royal decree restricting the right of issuing Fatwas to members of the senior clergy of the kingdom.
So far, it doesn't seem that the "Cash Register Fatwa" will be retracted nor challenged. Several Saudi columnists have questioned its relevance and effectiveness, given that in many supermarkets female till-operators work in a separate section (known as a "family section" in Saudi Arabia), they are covered-up in the traditional Abaya and work in a public facility (a supermarket!) where it would be very difficult for them to be harmed in any way.
Some believe that this edict came as a result of the way the question was put to the Grand Mufti; a technique commonly referred to as "Milking a Fatwa" which occurs when a question is formulated in a certain way that leads the Mufti's to respond against what the subject of the matter is. Others are saying that the PCF didn't investigate the matter thoroughly nor did it consider the consequences of its edict which causes more unnecessary unemployment for Saudi women who already face severe restrictions when it comes to accepting them in the job market due to a mixture of ultra-conservatism of some factions of society and a tendency to blur the lines between what is religiously required and what is socially acceptable.
However, "Fatwa-miking" attempts could have various reasons behind them, this could range between anything from a group of religious extremists (who may see female cashier-operators a dangerous sign of modernity) seeking to popularize their interpretation of the religion by obtaining an "official cover" from the PCF to a person who might have a personal vendetta against the owner or owning company of the country's biggest supermarket chains (the question that was directed to the Grand Mufti did specify certain supermarket chains by the way).
Anyhow, there has been no official feedback as one Saudi newspaper has reported that the Minister of Labour, Adel Faqih, has refrained from commenting on the matter so far, citing that the reason could be that he has just been appointed to replace the late Ghazi AlQosaibi who has passed away last August and needs to sort out matters internally before making public statements.
Assuming the minister will require a bit more time to get things moving, I hope he doesn't mind if I speak on his behalf for the time being, while I am sure the vast majority of women cash-register operators will not mind what I will have to say next.
This Fatwa is absolutely ridiculous, it should be withdrawn immediately and a much more thorough mechanism should be put in place at the PCF, so that people will stop "milking" Fatwas out in the way that suits their interest. (Assuming we accept that a "milking" attempt was the excuse for how such a preposterous edict came to be).
Once again, I find myself in need to argue against religious scholars when I am not one myself. However, the Holy Quran, the books of Hadeeth and the history is there for everyone to read.
Did women not work in trade in the days of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)? Didn't he not work for a businesswoman and then ended up marrying her (I am referring to The Prophet's first wife, Khadija Bint Khowaylid)? Am I the only one who happens to think that it is just outrageous that women were allowed to trade freely with men more than 1400 years ago and we come to know to place unjust, unnecessary and un-thought-through restrictions?
When Mohammad became a Prophet -- one of the first things he did was to say that Islam came to forever abolish slavery and forbid "Wa'd Al Banat" (Girl Burying), a pre-Islamic tribal custom of burying baby girls while they were still alive in fear of disgrace or to prevent them from being enslaved by conquering tribesmen.
With un-carefully thought-through Fatwas that prevent women, who may be desperate for a job to support herself or indeed her family, I really begin to question if we have returned to the "Girl Burying" days!
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I think you trust in Aljazeera.net
Well, Aljazeera shared the fatwa that i said its original fatwa
http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ACF35B2A-DA76-4D38-83F5-793C87C7945C.htm
So.. it is not a story of elephant in a room, it's a story of a balloon in front of a needle.
i like your articles, respect them, but i hate some liars Saudi newspapers, please don't trust at all on Saudi newspapers.
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how do you do? i hope you fine; friend
i have tens questions about this article, i passed them all except one question i hope you answer clearly and friendly:
you said :
Local media reports have claimed that this edict was issued after the PCF received a question directed to the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia asking what his thoughts were regarding women working on supermarket tills where they "mix with men, talk to them, ((((touch them)))) when receiving/giving back goods and attend training sessions with male colleagues."
ok,
let's see the original Fatwa in it's original language, it spreads in the saudi forums as wildfire, this is wikilwaks era; friend :)
you can find it easily, just Google it.
here is it
http://img440.imageshack.us/i/42234179.jpg/
Now; would you please tell me: do you find any Arabic words could be translated to the English words ((((touch them))))?!, i do NOT find.
where did the local media reports bring those words from?! they were liar, and now you got the original source, so.. please apologize about this mistake to HuffPost's readers, and put the original Fatwa in your article
i don't like article without images at all :)
Marwan
I think Saudi newspapers are much reliable sources than a mere image posted somewhere by someone we don't know.
In all cases - I don't think having the word or not makes a big difference (you are picking on details and ignoring the 'elephant in the room' as they say in English) - the fact is that this fatwa was released and it forbids women from working on supermarket cashiers - that is the issue, not whether or not their skin touches a male skin when exchanging goods!!!
appreciate your comments and your feedback.
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Faisal
The point here that I am making is that the Saudis use shari'ah law to extremes, first, they know full well the shari'ah of not allowing agreements with enemies of Muslims, so they can use their lands to kill other Muslims. And, the shari'ah, ahadiths are clear that a Muslimah can venture outside her home as long as their is not fitnah (trials and tribulations).
Since a Muslimah is wearing a hijab, not keeping company in private with non makram men, she is fine, she can work, but if she sending messages of availablity to men, this is another matter.
In essence, there is serious confusion in the Muslim world created by despotic leaders who have vacated the shari'ah for their own personal gains and their rule is shown to be flawed, by rulings such as this and their rulings allowing non Muslims to be housed so they can be used as a lauching pad to kill other Muslims.
About the cash register thing, I have no idea why they'd make a law like that and I don't care. I'm sure more people than not, over there, are happy with that law just like people are happy here with laws that others might not like. If the people don't like a law, I'm sure they'd find a way to get it changed without having outsiders making the decision for them.
Btw. Mr Abbas is Saudi, so he is not coming from outside, not that he wouldn't entitled to his opinion anyway.