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An Insider's View of Occupy Wall Street

Posted: 10/27/11 03:00 PM ET

To begin, I should point out that what is called "Wall Street" is not a monolith. Rather, it is like a giant global octopus with a central purpose (raising money for productive investment) and many different tentacles that have a broad reach, not all of which went awry in the last decades. Thus, people have to be careful not to oversimplify the subject and risk killing the entire octopus rather than targeting only those tainted tentacles.

I have spent most of my 80 years on or around Wall Street. I believe I know it pretty well and have enjoyed many of its benefits. I also still believe that the genius of "Wall Street" was and remains an essential ingredient in making possible American dreams. Now, however, I find myself agreeing with what appears to be the basic idea underlying the "Occupation."

I hear the Occupiers' message to be:

What happened in the economy of the country in recent years does not seem right or fair. Wall Street got us -- the whole U.S. -- into this mess by plying the country with excess unaffordable housing, creating too much easy credit for everything we wanted to buy, and at the same time reaping vast profits trading among themselves. The resulting bubble inevitably burst. Yet, its dire consequences linger and now we, the rest of America, are continuing to pay a stiff price for Wall Street's selfish mistakes. At the same time Wall Street appears to have pretty much gotten off scot-free and has gone back to minting fortunes again, at our expense.

Broadly viewed, that message seems to be very close to the truth. And, it is hard and perhaps unwise to argue, or even quibble with, the relatively few points that may be overstated or exaggerated by some of the Occupiers.

Many people say correctly that they -- the occupiers -- have not sufficiently specified either their complaints or their wishes. Still, that does not diminish the powerful truths embedded in their overall basic message.

Frustration, a sense of helplessness and a feeling of abandonment are perfectly normal human reactions to the conditions which today embrace far too many Americans. While the Occupiers are still a relatively small number of people, they are clearly the leading edge of 15+ million Americans underemployed and unemployed, whose pains and foreclosures have been largely swept under the political rug.

Credit President Obama, Paul Volcker and the sponsors of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act for setting out to rein in and correct much of the obvious Wall Street excesses, despite that they did it with kid gloves to avoid killing the whole octopus. But, remember also that Wall Street's vastly well paid lobbyists quickly and powerfully thwarted too much of the original plan.

Now that the Occupiers have brought the issues front and center, what can and should be done, at least with respect to the Wall Street part of the overall larger economic problems?

  • Simply dissing the Occupiers as a rag tag lot of poor losers is not a productive idea. They are as real as rain.
  • Simply counting on bad weather to shut them down is wishful thinking because it is already clear they are striking a vibrantly resonant chord in many places.
  • Simply appearing to be broadly sympathetic, without seriously addressing basic issues, is likely to exacerbate their anguish, anger and behavior.

Wall Street needs to start by publicly presenting a credible group of leaders who loudly say, "We get it!" and pledge to start doing the things that they already know very well need to be changed. That list includes:

1. Wall Street has to stop playing games with government about the reasons their special tax breaks (for example capital gains treatment on carried interests) enhance profits to allegedly raise more capital for America, when in all honesty they really are mainly to pay ever bigger bonuses from outsized profits in competition with everyone else in the business.

2. People forget that Wall Street has poured ever larger amounts of money (simply as the economy grew) through the same pipes and made the relatively few people manning those pipes (traders and investment bankers) seem to themselves, at least, like geniuses who deserved ever more pay when really all that was happening was more money was passing the meters in their pipes. Their equivalent "unit" pay for most similar functions over the years increased by many multiples in relation to most other similar types of jobs, which deflected a lot of talent away from science, engineering and education. Modern computers made ordinary people seem much smarter (and apparently more valuable) than they really are.

3. Rhetoric to the contrary, Wall Street was and is perfectly capable of creating sufficient investment capital for American industry at reasonable -- in historical terms -- levels of pay. It boggles imagination to believe that an investment banker will quit, if the pay for raising money goes down from $4 million to $2 million a year, if global ground rules uniformly change. It may be unpalatable, but is still a better deal than many alternatives, which (heaven forbid!) could lead them to being Occupiers too.

4. Wall Street preached competition while it systematically undermined it. Elimination of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, which separated commercial banking from investment banking, was politically powered through in 1999 during the last big wave of prosperity. That led to eliminating many competing independent players on Wall Street, which in turn, enabled the remaining too few giant players to dominate, as well as obscure, many of their most profitable activities. This led directly to the bubble and other excesses, which ended in the collapse in 2008.

5. Capital adequacy and proprietary trading have also become serious problems. Wall Street loves -- lives on, in fact -- leverage and therefore deplores being required to have more capital to protect its depositors, lenders and counterparties. They have turned somersaults to justify their capital adequacy and frequently have pulled blindfolds over regulators' eyes. Proprietary trading became a very large part of their profits, even though that activity truly has little to do with their avowed purpose of providing capital to American business. They really should come clean on these issues and put into effect the sound and sensible rules that have been proposed by Volcker and others to put their houses in order.

The above five categories of issues obviously involve many detailed and complex matters that go way beyond the basic purpose of this note. However, by seriously addressing those topics in the context of a genuine "we get it" attitude, Wall Street could legitimately put itself on a path of reform which could become an important part of the larger goal of restoring confidence in the American economy.

That might lead the Occupiers to getting behind the other crucial issues like overall tax reform (including more taxes from the super rich) and getting broader consensus behind sufficient economic stimulation and putting more Americans back to work and back into the malls of America.

Frank A. Weil is the Chairman of Abacus & Associates, Inc., Investments; formerly Vice Chair and Chief Financial Officer of Paine Webber and General Partner, Loeb Rhoades & Co.

 
To begin, I should point out that what is called "Wall Street" is not a monolith. Rather, it is like a giant global octopus with a central purpose (raising money for productive investment) and many di...
To begin, I should point out that what is called "Wall Street" is not a monolith. Rather, it is like a giant global octopus with a central purpose (raising money for productive investment) and many di...
 
 
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BeerLover
Carpe Diem!
09:16 AM on 10/28/2011
Oh and can we make it ILLEGAL for corporations to buy insurance policies on their employees.....who they hope will die? The ol "peasant death" policy......where a bank or anyone on Wall Street can make extra spending cash like say..... 5 milllion dollars..... on betting that one of their employees will die.

If THIS does not say capitalism is now littered with human garbage at the top.... I don't know what does.
03:50 AM on 10/28/2011
Good start.
I might add the following.
1. End private and corporate funding of elections. Public funding only. No more election fundraising by politicians.
2. End corporate personhood.
3. End the writing of laws by corporate lobbyists that are then pushed by our elected officials.
4. End bribery by lobbyists of our elected officials. No more perks.
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Frank A. Weil
03:36 PM on 11/01/2011
Agree - all good points would have added BUT short is sweeter!
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Maureen Stemberg
11:26 PM on 10/27/2011
Well said: Mr. Weil!
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Robert SF
07:50 PM on 10/27/2011
Fantastic! I'm glad to see there are people on Wall Street who get it. The writer's characterization of what OWS is about is right on the money. I hope to read more from Mr. Weil.
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Aesops
08:08 PM on 10/28/2011
Yeah no mention of criminality in that paragraph. I don't believe he "gets" it at all. If he did he wouldn't be fence sitting on the Dodd-Frank bill that in fact changed nothing. Admit to some superficial hits, and skirt the real underlying problems. That's why they've done so well, because all they have to do is start singing the right tune and Americans want to be best buds again. Do you know what it takes to make a long term living in that environment? They're not altruistic folks, they do what they need to live to fight another day. That's all that matters.
06:50 PM on 10/27/2011
I have seen your photograph, Frank, and I am not sure you have the time left waiting for Wall Street (or Washington) to reform themselves. Monkees will jump from your behind first. Our DC Pols and their Wall Street masters have a sweet little deal worked out for themselves and they will not give it up without a serious fight. We the people need to take this into our own hands.
06:21 PM on 10/27/2011
Government control of the economy has never worked and it won't ever work. The ONLY way for this country to flourish and grow economically is for the government to get out of the way. Higher taxes discourage investment. That's whats happening right now. There are billions on the sideline ready for investment, in other companies, capital and new employees. But nobody is pulling the trigger because they don't know Obama's intentions (or they do know and want to protect their money since he wants to take as much of it as he can). Hiring new employees might be 6 to 10 thousand dollars more expensive next year because an employer will have to pay for their employee's insurance. Why risk it. Capital gains taxes might go up so why invest in other companies when your return will be confiscated. So why hire, invest, or expand your own business when there is a chance that it will be taken from you? That's why the economy is in its current state. People don't know what Obama will demand you to do for your employees or simply take from you next. If I was rich I'd keep my money offshore too. If I owned a large company, I'd move overseas too to reduce costs. We already have the highest corporate tax rate in the world but Obama wants employers to be taxed more and Obama is making hiring more expensive which leaves a choice. Raise prices to compensate OR find cheaper labor.
07:04 PM on 10/27/2011
A suggestion? If this is your view of how this country should be run, then kindly take yourself where you don't have to pay employees what they rightfully earn, worry about corporate taxes or have all your gains taken away from you.

You'll quickly realize that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere.....I am not American born, but was naturalized back in 1975, and let me tell you that despite all the whack job lobbyists, crooked politicians and thievery on Wall Street, I've never been more proud of being an American, being given Constitutional rights and finding myself working along side other American born people who rightfully earn but don't receive what it is you are against.

In case you've forgotten, the hard-working people of China are now wanting to receive the same kind of pay and benefits American people have been receiving. The CEOs are realizing that what cheap labor they were getting for a long time is rapidly going away, making them look elsewhere in SE Asia or South America for cheap labor. Some are even talking about bringing jobs back to our country because of the lack of quality control of goods being manufactured.

As I mentioned, the grass isn't always greener elsewhere....
07:27 PM on 10/27/2011
We are to believe corporations could be making a lot more money now but choose not to because they are afraid big bad Obama will "take it from them"? Did Rush tell you this?

Regarding taxes, personal income tax rates are the lowest since the 1920's The Corp tax rate is a little high at 35% but the effective tax rate is negligible due to "exeptions and loopholes"

Small Business is bad due to lack of demand/sales because US households have too much debt. The Multinationals could care less because they are selling and moving jobs overseas.

But the key is we need to eliminate too big to fail...failure is part of free markets. The big banks need to be shrunk and retrained before we see any real recovery.
05:49 PM on 10/27/2011
Does anyone else find it ironic that the donations collected by the OWS movement while protesting banks is kept...in a freaking bank?!?! Why don't the leaders of OWS give everyone in attendance an ATM card? I thought this movement was all about equitable distribution of money throughout society, why not lead by example? And what about Occupy Dallas and Occupy Oakland? Do they receive any of this money? If they decide to keep the money in the bank, giving only a select few control over the money, don't they then in fact become similar to the bourgeoisie which they are protesting? That would produce another irony. OWS and the entire Occupy movement would gain a lot more legitimacy if they actually acted the way they demand others to act. Start by giving those who are less fortunate a freaking hamburger.
05:40 PM on 10/27/2011
Heh clueless. They are not protesting banks...just crooked banks. Wake up! The fractional reserve banking system is freaking rigged.
04:42 PM on 10/27/2011
Does anyone else find it ironic that OWS is keeping the donations that they received while protesting banks...in a freaking bank?!?! Why don't the people who control that money give everyone in attendance a personal ATM card? Aren't they all about equitable distribution of money? And what about Occupy Dallas and Occupy Oakland? Are they going to get any of that $500,000? Why not? Its funny because while the OWS hierarchy are fighting the burgeious
07:07 PM on 10/27/2011
You don't know what kind of account the occupiers are holding there donations in. You assume it is a bank but it is more likely to be a federal credit union or paypal account. Stop making stupid comments if you can.
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08:19 AM on 10/28/2011
It is a local bank, not a big bank.
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
05:28 PM on 10/27/2011
Good ideas, all of them. The only problem is that for every single one of the attempts to change any of this, Republicans will stand in the way.
Hopefully people will get the message and vote out the patrons of political theft, the GOPers, along with the blue dog Dems who are equally as corrupt and maybe these big important changes can begin to take place. That needs to be the biggest message to start with, because the GOPers are the biggest part of the apple that's rotten to the core, and needs to be cut out and replaced.
06:09 PM on 10/27/2011
That is false. From 2006 until now the Democrats controlled Congress. For Obama's first 2 years in office, it was a mathematical impossibility for the GOP to stop ANY bill unless the Democrats wanted it stopped as well. For example the jobs bill. If Democrats thought it was a good bill, it would have been passed and there would have been nothing the Republicans could have done about it.
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
09:30 AM on 10/28/2011
It is NOT false. From 2006 to 2010 Republicans have done literally HUNDREDS of fiflibusters in the Senate stopping almost every important legislation they tried to push through. Jobs bill's never had a hope in hell with these goons that don't care about the country, but at least we can see better what they care about, and it's NOT US!!!
Please pull your head out of the place where the sun don't shine and learn something, not what the AM radio jocks like the fat guy who's paid ONE MILLION a week to keep pumping those lies into you. Get a clue.
05:13 PM on 10/27/2011
So let me get this straight...A group of people who are protesting to make more people give their money up for food, clothing and housing for those less fortunate are getting mad that they have to give up their money to pay for food for those less fortunate? What a hoot!!! Welcome to the club fellas.
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
05:23 PM on 10/27/2011
No, you don't have it "straight" at all.

It goes a lot deeper because it affects %99 of Americans, even those who don't understand it. It wasn't a recession, it was a robbery.
05:38 PM on 10/27/2011
I am absolutely right. Why wont the cooks give food to those less fortunate? Is it because they're hypocrites? They called them "free-loaders". By the way, I agree. Nobody has the right to the fruits of another's labor. I don't see anyone down there purchasing healthcare or donating 50% of their money to individuals less fortunate than them. Hell, they wont even give them a burger. Socialism is for the people, NOT the socialist, and it's obvious in this case. And BTW, it doesn't matter what is done to the banks and Wall Street so long as there are politicians in Washington willing to make new laws favoring them and taking bribes. The OWS is protesting the wrong people. If the pols are voted out, people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd wouldn't be in Congress, and thereby able to accept payoffs in order to change laws which provide loop-holes for companies to exploit. Its a big freaking circle yet OWS is protesting the people who they can't remove from their jobs while the people who CAN be removed by the people remain in their ivory towers.
06:05 PM on 10/27/2011
Made possible because of one thing, politicians. Politicians writing legislation favorable to select companies in return for kickbacks. Don't protest the people who you can't remove from their jobs, protest those who you can!!! Protest Barney Frank who received money from Fannie and Freddy. Protest Chris Dodd who received special considerations on his mortgage in return for writing legislation beneficial to Countrywide via their "Friends of Angelo" program. Protest Barack Obama who received more money from Wall Street during his campaign than any other person who has ever lived. Protest Jamie Gorlick and Franklin Raines and Maxine Waters. Protest those in Congress who said "screw you, nothings wrong with Fannie and Freddie" to George Bush who, on six different occasions said "send an auditor to Fannie and Freddy because something's not right here". Protest Jimmy Carter for telling banks that repayment of loans isn't important, what's important is getting minorities into houses. Protest Bill Clinton who reduced Jimmy Carters loan qualifications to just about anybody with a heartbeat, including "no document loans". What the heck is that? NO DOCUMENT LOANS?!?!?!?! ON A $400,000 HOUSE???? Multiply that by 40 or 50 million and you don't have to wonder what happened to the housing market and therefore the economy. Which in turn resulted in people's #1 investment being worthless, which resulted in people retirement plans and 401(k)s being worthless,
03:50 PM on 10/27/2011
One of the misunderstandings about the Occupy movement is that they are anti-capitalist. In fact, they are just anti-crony capitalism.

For example, they are supporting one successful Texas business owner who got shafted by the system .

As explained on one Occupy member's page http://tiny.cc/c8m6j, a business owner was involved in a civil dispute and paid millions of dollars to lawyers, and when he objected to additional fees after settling the case, they had a “friendly” judge seize all of his possessions, without any notice or hearing, and essentially ordered him under “house arrest” as an involuntary servant to the lawyers. The business owner has been under this "servant" order for 10 months and is prohibited from owning any possessions, prohibited from working, etc..
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BeerLover
Carpe Diem!
09:25 AM on 10/28/2011
GOPers don't know this......they only watch fox and only know how to repeat Koch talking points..... like parrots......except parrots are smarter.
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Val Brown
03:14 PM on 10/27/2011
Thank you for this. While OWS has indeed reached far and wide and tapped into the 99%'s anger, I am indeed afraid that as the winter comes and they de-camp there will be nothing concrete, no leader(s) to propel the movement forward. Perhaps people like you can work with OWS and other enlightened 1%ers to work together to propel change on both Wall St. and in government. Are you up for the challenge? You'd help many many millions. What a wonderful legacy you'd leave.