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Frank Sesno

Frank Sesno

Posted: February 18, 2010 08:32 PM

Thomas Friedman's "Perfect Storm"

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Thomas Friedman came to the Planet Forward studios to talk to us about climate change and what he thinks needs to be done to solve it. His controversial take: we need real -- not phoney -- green revolution, and we need a tax on carbon.

What's the only thing that could get carbon legislation this year? A perfect storm.


 

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01:34 PM on 02/21/2010
This is a poor tactic, even suggesting we need a disaster, is unkind.

We need a better over all plan:

We need to define a Green energy alternative energy system,

Then find reasons for a majority of people to agree with it, climate change, pollution of the commons, national security are all good reasons, we should not be alienating any group that would go along with a good plan.

I propose:

Rooftop pv solar,

Wind,

Waste Bio Fuels.

No storage needs, uses the same engines and infrastructure we have now, carbon negative if you want.

Way more than enough energy for first world levels.

See my profile for proof.

Safe, Clean, Forever.
04:32 PM on 02/19/2010
So do this mean Friedman will be moving out of his 11,000 square foot mansion to reduce his carbon footprint and help save the earth?
10:02 PM on 02/18/2010
Friedman has people running scared that their going to fall off his flat earth. Just as the locked steps
that the panama canal provides for ships to flow OVER the highest point,.. we can have economies
around the globe competing in stepped increments so that no culture has to be high and dry.

Those who disagree can demonstrate the commitment of their belief by actively opposing handicap-
ping in golf or anything else.
09:15 PM on 02/18/2010
I take it Friedman has not been paying attention to the news about the collapse of the global warming fraud.

Frankly, I haven't paid any attention to him in a long time. His role as an apostle for the Iraq War totally discredited him to any intelligent person.
02:10 AM on 02/19/2010
There has been no collapse, nor fraud. Just a bunch of garbage taken out of context and misinterpreted by deniers. You see the same silliness being perpetrated by the anti-evolution inbreds. The evidence remains overwhelming, and the vast majority of professional climatologists regard the issue as settled. All the same, Thomas Friedman has gotten many other things wildly wrong, and his prose is often quite bad. I would agree there's no point at all in paying any attention to him. Very overhyped. Very mediocre mind.
11:00 PM on 02/19/2010
Exactly. What I think I'm seeing is that there is a whole slew of people who form their opinions based on having developed a specific aversion for one of the messengers. So basically, it's screw my kids' future because you dislike Al Gore.
02:19 PM on 02/20/2010
Just because the media here in the states has done a horrible job does not mean that the "settled science" is not becoming more unsettled every day.

Check out the English press. They are cutting the current science and its purveyors to pieces.

Let me clarify the story that the US media REPEATEDLY gets backwards.

The Email that talked about using a trick to hide the decline is NOT talking about trying to hide a decline in temperatures, which most of the US media has try to set up as a false and easily disproven premise.

Rather, it refers to a decline in apparent temperatures that have occurred in the data gleaned from tree rings over the last 50 years. That is to say, over the last 50 years, tree rings have become completely unreliable as a measure of temperature as they seem to suggest much cooler temps than have been recorded by thermometers.

So, while using tree rings to estimate temps for many previous hundreds of years, the scientists in question skiped the data of the last 50 years and grafted real thermometer temps on for the last 50 years to hide the decline in tree ring data. That's the trick.

However, since they have absolutely no idea why there has been a divergence over the last 50 years, In fact, that protracted divergence renders any data from tree rings completely unreliable, as much warmer periods could have occurred before and diverged in the tree ring data.