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Latest Polls Confirm New Political Reality for Immigration Reform

Posted: 06/29/2012 4:16 pm

The June 27th headline in the Wall Street Journal trumpeted the arrival of a new era in the politics of immigration. "Obama Gains Among Latinos: Poll Finds Strong Support Among Public for Softer Stance on Youth Deportations." The piece noted:

"Americans by a wide margin favor President Barack Obama's new policy of halting deportations of many young illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, a new poll shows. In all, nearly seven in 10 Americans said they favor the administration's new immigration policy, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll. Hispanic support approached 90%. The move could pay big political dividends for the president if it boosts Hispanic support for him in pivotal battleground states in November."


What a difference from just a few years ago. The old conventional wisdom, popularized by Rahm Emanuel and others, went something like this: immigration is a "third rail" issue for Democrats; lean into a pro-immigrant stance at your peril; if you do, conservatives will mobilize, swing voters will swing in their direction, and pro-immigrant voters, especially Latinos, do not care enough or count enough to make up the difference.

But the new reality stands this conventional wisdom on its head. Harry Reid demonstrated it in 2010 when he leaned into the DREAM Act, stood up to Sharron Angle and ended up mobilizing Hispanic voters and winning over swing voters on his way to a remarkable victory. President Obama demonstrated it on June 15th with his executive action protecting hundreds of thousands of DREAMers. They both found that by leaning into the issue and taking bold action they mobilize Latino and other pro-immigrant voters, attract swing voters who favor solutions over paralysis and pragmatism over nativism, and leaves Republicans between a nativist hard rock (their loud by not large anti-immigrant wing) and a demographic hard place (in 2012, the GOP's need to win 40% of the Latino vote when Romney is currently polling in the mid-20s).

Just look at the recent polling, including Quinnipiac's poll of general voters in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, the oversample of Latino respondents in the referenced an NBC/WSJ/Telemundo poll, and Latino Decisions/America's Voice's look at five "Latino battleground" states (Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Nevada and Virginia). Each shows overwhelmingly positive news regarding the President's recent decision to allow DREAM-eligible young people to apply for work permits.

Quinnipiac's latest polling in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania found that by a 62-30% margin in FL, 54-39% in OH, and 51-41% in PA, voters support the move. As polling guru Mark Blumenthal of Huffington Post wrote, "the Obama campaign got good news, as registered in this poll, in the strong positive reactions to the new immigration executive order recently announced by the Obama administration. Majorities in all three states expressed support for 'a new policy in which young illegal immigrants who came to the country as children will be able to obtain work permits and will not face deportation.'" Greg Sargent of the Washington Post's Plum Line blog noted that even independent voters support the DREAMer protections (even as 6 out 10 independents in each state said it wouldn't change their vote either way). That's the politics of immigration in a nutshell: most voters support common sense policies, but they vote on other issues. Immigration is only a defining issue for Latino and immigrant voters - the fastest growing group of new voters in the country - and a small and shrinking group of anti-immigrant Republicans.

Those state numbers are consistent with the national findings in the NBC/WSJ/Telemundo poll, which found:

"N]early every segment of the population--whites, male voters, suburbanites, rural voters, even union members--supported the move to stop the deportations. But those identifying themselves as Republicans narrowly opposed the move, 48% to 47%. Nearly half of all Americans now think immigration helps the U.S. more than it hurts, while 39% said its hurts more than helps, down from 52% who held the negative view in 2007.

Clearly, sensible immigration policy is popular with all the voter groups Obama and Romney are fighting over.

As for Hispanic voters? Olvídate (that's Spanish for "fuggedaboutit"). In the Hispanic oversample part of the NBC/WSJ/Telemundo poll, Latino voters said they care about immigration and broadly favor President Obama's handling of immigration matters. The poll found that 84% of Latinos surveyed knew about the DREAMer protection announcement, and 87% of Latino respondents were in favor of the policy (63% "strongly favor" and 24% "somewhat favor").

When asked, "How important to you is the issue of immigration?" - a combined 93% of Latinos stated it was important (a plurality of 48% saying "extremely," 24% saying "quite," and 21% saying "somewhat." Only 7% of Latino respondents said immigration was "not that important."

Finally, earlier this week, Latino Decisions and America's Voice released the latest installment of our Latino voter poll in five battleground states: Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Nevada and Virginia. As the poll results make clear, Democrats remain firmly in the lead with Latino voters, and have expanded their advantage following the President's decision on behalf of young undocumented immigrants. According to Matt Barreto, Principal at Latino Decisions and an Adjunct Professor of political science at the University of Washington:

The battleground polling data shows quite convincingly that the Obama DHS announcement created a Latino enthusiasm bump. The question now is whether that can be sustained until Election Day.


On a press call we held Wednesday, June 27th to discuss the Battleground States poll, Barreto said "we had the great fortune of being in the field with a poll when the President made his move on DREAMers." Thus, Barreto and his colleagues at Latino Decisions were able to compare surveys completed before and after June 15th, the date of the DREAMer protection announcement. The finding: Obama's approval ratings on immigration shot up 16 percentage points and he gained 10 points in the overall ballot.

The President wasn't the only beneficiary of this bounce: the Democrats' advantage with Latinos in a generic House match-up rose 10 percentage points following the announcement. Four of these five states will also see competitive Senate battles this cycle, and Democrats are polling well there too.

Simultaneously, Romney's evasive response to the question of whether he would keep or repeal the DREAMer policy change, and refusal to comment on the substance of the Supreme Court's decision about the Arizona anti-immigration law, have hurt him with Latino voters over the past two weeks. In our poll, Romney lost 10 percentage points in the overall ballot. This, combined with the enthusiasm bump for Latino voters, means he is poised to win a smaller share of a larger pool of Latino voters. After all, it's not just the percentage of Latino voters choosing one party or another that matters; it's also number of voters who show up at the polls.

What does all this mean? The President gets the new politics of immigration and Mitt Romney doesn't. The President shook free from the old CW that counseled caution and avoidance and ran to the gunfire. The result? Latinos are more supportive and enthusiastic than ever, swing voters like that he took action and like the action he took and Republicans have been left looking flat-footed, flummoxed and fringy.

Welcome to the new era of immigration politics. Look for Democrats to keep leaning into the issue to reinforce their advantage on immigration. And look for Republicans to keep alienating the growing Latino population until enough GOPers decide it's time to sue for peace on immigration reform so that they may, once again, have a chance to see the inside of the White House.

 

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Hacim Obmed
12:42 PM on 07/04/2012
The only poll that matters is the one on Nov 4th and we will see how this plays out for Obama. I do not beleive the rosy scenario.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
05:05 PM on 07/04/2012
I don't either. But, one good thing about these faux-polls is that they may energize the anti-illegal immigrant groups even more before November. I certainly hope so.
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BeasTT
03:31 PM on 07/03/2012
Frank,

You took the term "support" and assume that translates into votes. Those who will decide their vote based on immigration alone were already voting in a certain manner to begin with.

I doubt many voters who are on the fence will base their decision because Obama gave a backdoor amnesty.
07:00 AM on 07/02/2012
The Reagan Administration passed the first round of amnesty and now California is lost to conservative forever.

A second round of amnesty will eliminate any conservative party at the national level. Open borders and unlimited immigration will quickly turn the U.S. into Notre Mexico and will be the last nail in the coffin of middle class Americans.
04:46 PM on 07/01/2012
If you don't spin and twist the survey question and ask Americans, "are you in favor of illegal immigration or amnesty?" About 80% will say NO. The rest is hooey.
08:33 PM on 07/01/2012
You’re right; it’s all about how you phrase it. If you use words like illegal, it implies that there is a legal way; if you use amnesty it brings a criminal element to mind – it’s like saying that by granting “illegals” “amnesty” we are giving something way for free to somebody who dishonestly took it (“it’s unfair”, grown men whine - which it would be if it were true).

If you’d ask the average American if they’d favor a policy that would make it possible for people who have already resided in the country for more than five years, speak perfect English, are either college graduates and/or honorable discharged from the military (basically the Dream Act) to immigrate – my guess is the vast majority would probably say yes.

In fact, it seems like some people think there is a legal way to immigrate, exemplified by statements like: “why don’t they fill out the proper paperwork”, “why didn’t they apply for citizenship”, or “they should go back home and wait in line like everybody else.” The more ordinary people, politicians and the media throw around meaningless phrases like that, the more people seem to think that there is system of immigration in place.

The misinformation surrounding the immigration debate further alienates immigrants who are not yet legal residents, by assuming that until they obtain proper immigration status they are taking advantage of the system, taking someone else’s place, etc. in turn creating more xenophobia and distrust of immigrants.
09:54 PM on 07/01/2012
Thank you. For providing the perfect example of the manipulative double speak I was referring to. There are in fact upwards of 14 MILLION Illegal Aliens currently residing inside the United States unlawfully. That is fact. They are (with the help of political allies) attempting to procure amnesty and obtain citizenship outside the scope of the law. You insult the 1,000,000 LEGAL immigrants who follow the rules and are granted legal citizenship each and every year and further insult all those waiting for their opportunity to follow in those individuals footsteps....not to just sneak across the border and flaunt the law because no one is stopping them. Appreciate your input and example of how you can twist language to manipulate public opinion.
07:03 AM on 07/02/2012
then what restrictions should there be on immigrationto the U.S. There are more than 300 million people living in the third world that would love to immigrant to the U.S. How many should be allowed in.

The first amnesty was passed in the 1980's with the promise of border control. The politicians lied and there was no border control. Now people are promoting amnesty for 12-14 million illegal aliens. How many illegal aliens will there be in the third amnesty after the politicians are through lying about this one.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
04:59 PM on 07/04/2012
Absolutely. I don't believe polls in general. The outcome is always "tinkered with" to get the results that those with an agenda want.
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Snake1994
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03:29 PM on 07/01/2012
I don't know who they are polling here, because the polls that I see say that the majority of Americans are against illegal immigration and any form of amnesty.
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Chief Johnson2
We, Hispanics, are the future.
01:40 AM on 07/02/2012
Really? Do you care to bring any example?
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BeasTT
03:32 PM on 07/03/2012
Dude there are tons of polls against amnesty, seriously do you sleep under a rock ?
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Emma2011
03:09 PM on 07/01/2012
Today, Kris Kobach told Chris Hayes that the wages in America will go up dramatically in all kinds of industries if the undocumented immigrants leave the country.

Questions for the GOP: How will increased cost of labor help the economy and create jobs? How will higher cost of labor affect the bottom line of US businesses, especially those that are exposed to foreign competition?
07:06 AM on 07/02/2012
If the U.S. has to pay less taxes to support poor, third world immigrants, there business will be able to compete. If schools spend more on academic education and less on ESL, remedial classes, and gang prevention programs, then everyone benefits. If all Americans can speak English, then businesses have to spend less on customers who cannot speak English (Push 2 for English).

If illegal immigrants help the economy, then California would not have a double digit unemployment rate and El Paso would be a boom town.
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
12:14 PM on 07/01/2012
Mr Sharry - your contentions hardly represent the view of voters. With many Hispanics making a point to get upset if ANY illegal Hispanic is caught in the system, and with 1 in 5 Hispanics being illegal, polling Hispanics is at best a roll of the dice.

What about the May 12 PEW poll shows that:

~ 58% of voters approve of SB1070.
~ 73% say they approve of requiring people to produce documents verifying their legal status if police ask for them.
~ 67% approve of allowing police to detain anyone who cannot verify their legal status,
~62% approve of allowing police to question people they think may be in the country illegally.

http://www.people-press.org/2010/05/12/broad-approval-for-new-arizona-immigration-law/
11:00 AM on 07/01/2012
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Emma2011
06:29 PM on 06/30/2012
The latest Gallup poll shows that only 5% of registered American voters rate immigration as the most important issue, which suggests that they do not consider immigration a big problem and are ready for comprehensive immigration reform.

When Romney loses the Latino vote 3 to 1 in November and is defeated by Obama, the Republicans must decide whether they are interested in winning the White House again. If so, there is a chance that they step up to the plate and help the Dems pass CIR in 2013.
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08:11 PM on 06/30/2012
The latest results are from a Gallup poll conducted Jan. 5-8, 2012, to assess the mood of the nation at the start of this presidential election year. Americans' dissatisfaction with immigration ranks 3rd highest among 17 issues Gallup asked about. Gallup posed a follow-up question only to those who say they are dissatisfied with the current level of immigration, asking whether the level of immigration should be increased, decreased, or remain the same. The net result is that 42% of all Americans are dissatisfied with the level of immigration and want it decreased -- down from 50% four years ago. Just 6% are dissatisfied and want the level of immigration increased.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152072/americans-immigration-concerns-linger.aspx
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Chief Johnson2
We, Hispanics, are the future.
01:35 AM on 07/02/2012
Still the same people agree with a path to legalization for unauthorized immigrants in almost every poll.
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Chief Johnson2
We, Hispanics, are the future.
01:34 AM on 07/02/2012
You are totally right. I will go even further. We will have a comprehensive immigration reform in the first half of 2013.
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BeasTT
03:37 PM on 07/03/2012
haha ! How many years have people like you been saying this ?
11:41 AM on 06/30/2012
There is absolutely nothing "sensible" about granting an amnesty of any kind -- again. It should be obvious to everyone that doing this reinforces the problem. It's the classic definition of insanity.
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lisac3333
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11:11 AM on 06/30/2012
Until All Americans are placed FIRST in the DREAM concept, no other person from any other country should take precedence. Until IMMIGRANT is not confused with ILLEGAL, all you speak is nonsense. If someone is in this country ILLEGALLY, has been here for years, and has made no effort during that time to become an American Citizen, they should not be considered eligible under American Rights! It does matter if they be Latino, Nigerian, Middle Eastern, Oriental, or European. America needs to take care of Americans first and ensure our quality of life is restored before bringing in people from other countries. Until we, as Americans, can stand on our own feet and get our country back on track, we cannot provide for other people from other countries.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
07:34 PM on 06/30/2012
totally fanned. The only people who now seem important to BOTH parties are the illegals from Mexico. The white Middle Class, the poor, the blacks......we are now NOT important in America.
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Chief Johnson2
We, Hispanics, are the future.
01:29 AM on 07/02/2012
Well, if you had a slightly idea about this issue, you may know that if they don't "has made no effort" is because they have not legal way to do it, not because they don't want.
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Michael D Ballantine
Texas Justice Party - Chairperson
09:41 AM on 06/30/2012
The President got his bounce but like every bounce, it will be forgotten in 3 months. Probably, the President acted to quickly if he wanted to ride this to a win in November, ooops.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
07:36 PM on 06/30/2012
I think you are correct here. People are quite fed up with the illegals and their whining and complaining and name calling and their demands for "rights" that they are not entitled to. They want nothing less than the total dismantling of America's immigration laws and an open border with Mexico. We MUST not let this happen.
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Chief Johnson2
We, Hispanics, are the future.
01:27 AM on 07/02/2012
"people"?? how many? what percentage?
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
06:50 PM on 06/29/2012
Can anyone say Wisconsin?
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memito
01:21 AM on 06/30/2012
Callate guey.
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
10:09 AM on 06/30/2012
Wisconsin
11:44 AM on 06/30/2012
Arizona, Alabama, Indiana, Georgia. One state at a time.
05:34 PM on 06/29/2012
Just wait until November. You can manipulate a poll to say anything. In November, we'll see if the public likes Obama favoring foreign lawbreakers over Americans and legal immigrants.

Since you like polls, though, I notice that you didn't harp about Pew Hispanic's poll showing that the general public favors the AZ law by a 58-38 margin. I wonder why you aren't bringing that one up. You're a big fan of polls, right?
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
07:40 PM on 06/30/2012
You will not EVER see HuffPo having any piece on the costs to American taxpayers of illegals from Mexico nor will you see crime stats for illegals. Won't happen on here. NEVER. As far as HP is concerned, illegals are a total "plus" for America. This I simply do NOT understand. I do NOT believe polls..........PERIOD. As you say, we will see in about 5 months how the average American feels about illegals from Mexico.
07:33 PM on 07/01/2012
Don't get mad about it, Huffpo is a Progressive website so you should expect a pro Amnesty/Illegal bias but look at the good news, of the many thousands of comments on many Immigration stories on the site very few are pro illegal. This is good news, it means when Obama or Romney push for Amnesty they'll have no support from their base.
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
11:08 AM on 07/01/2012
Or the ACLU posting on the web site that 287 9g) has not actually bee suspended in AZ - only roving immigration enforcement patrols by ICE since now all AZ police fill that function. Local AZ police still have extensive immigration enforcement power, including issuing immigration detainers, processing people for immigration violations, and preparing immigration charging documents.

http://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights-racial-justice/reading-fine-print-dhs-has-not-ended-287g-arizona